Qantas Green frequent flyer tier

[AustraliaPoochie]

Would QG suffice?
Qantas Green.
Nothing else goes close to that.
I will start speculating) >>> NB, this is my take **((QG))** PS, SG, WP... P1.
If we need a top status, QT (Qantas Titanium)?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Hmmm... my reading of the launch didn't appreciate any of the positives you are all seeing! All I saw was 'this is an opportunity for Qantas to make money' by encouraging you to buy products linked to the Green Card.

Does this mean no more joy flights operated by Qantas? No more Antarctica or 'Captain's Choice' private plane tours? Pricing non-stop domestic flights cheaper than those with connections? Or is the green thing only to the extent it fits the profit model?

 

[sudoer]

Does this mean no more joy flights operated by Qantas? No more Antarctica or 'Captain's Choice' private plane tours?

All of these have had carbon offsets built in to the fares for a while I believe.

 

[Jean Prouvaire]

According to the fact sheet in order to achieve Green Tier you need to complete actions in at least 5 out of the following 6 categories:

• Offset Flying - Offset a flight booked on Qantas.com; contribute to sustainable aviation fuel
• Sustainable Travel - Stay in a eco hotel
• Sustainable Lifestyle - Offset your Home and Car; purchase solar panels
• Choose Sustainable - Purchase wine from an eco vineyard; offset Qantas Wine or Qantas Store delivery
• Reduce Your Impact - Take our impact quiz to learn how
• Give Back - Contribute to a sustainability organisation or project

As someone who doesn't own a car and lives in an apartment, and who doesn't drink alcohol, I'm not sure if it'll be possible for me to qualify for the minimum 5 categories. (I'm certainly not going to burn points on a toaster just so I can get the delivery offset.) A shame, cause otherwise the Green Tier is something that would be of interest, given that one of the reward options is status credits.

 

[mviy]

For me it would all come down to how many status credits and whether they count to lifetime. If it’s worthwhile then I’ll look into making the minimum contribution to get the tier.

 

[sudoer]

According to the fact sheet in order to achieve Green Tier you need to complete actions in at least 5 out of the following 6 categories:

If looking at the cost of these - attaining green should be relatively cheap based on my back-of-envelope calcs below:

• Offset Flying - Offset a flight booked on Qantas.com; contribute to sustainable aviation fuel - offset $1-5 for domestic routes
• Sustainable Travel - Stay in a eco hotel - I can see this going one of two directions. Either it'll be a joint marketing venture with Accor around their Planet 21 program and trigger when QFF points post from the new QF/ALL tie-up, or it might be a Qantas Hotels thing with Tripadvisor GreenLeaders properties. Qantas Hotels already integrates Tripadvisor ratings into the engine, but doesn't seem to have any way to filter down on eco friendly properties at present.
• Sustainable Lifestyle - Offset your Home and Car; purchase solar panels - $50-100 per person based on table below
• Choose Sustainable - Purchase wine from an eco vineyard; offset Qantas Wine or Qantas Store delivery - I thought Qantas Wine used AusPost... and MyPost Business is already carbon neutral But worst case the offset is $1-2 max if already buying alcohol.
• Reduce Your Impact - Take our impact quiz to learn how - how much do you value your time...
• Give Back - Contribute to a sustainability organisation or project - I would guess this to be a 1000 point or $10 donation to Qantas Future Planet

So possibly less than $100 if going for the cheapest qualification route.

As someone who doesn't own a car and lives in an apartment

The fact sheet gives an option for offsetting a household without a car, so you should still be able to meet this category.



I've just discovered these offsets are already available for purchase in the Qantas Store under 'Gift cards': Offset Your Home and Car

Pricing varies by state, but it's amusing that ACT costs more than NSW when ACT is already running on 100% renewable electricity.

My partner and I both chase SC, I wonder if they will count a single 2 person + 1 car offset payment against two FF accounts in the same household, or if we are expected to purchase our own individually. It seems this category is going to be an honour system anyway, although if you hold Qantas car insurance it might be difficult to argue that you don't own a car

and who doesn't drink alcohol

Qantas Wine has a small selection of food & non-alcoholic options. $20 fancy salt perhaps? Guess it depends how many SC are on the table.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

• Reduce Your Impact - Take our impact quiz to learn how - how much do you value your time...

See I just saw this as data collection! They'd need to track you to give you the points/SCs, so another valuable income stream

 

[Stevo.1702]

According to the fact sheet in order to achieve Green Tier you need to complete actions in at least 5 out of the following 6 categories:

• Offset Flying - Offset a flight booked on Qantas.com; contribute to sustainable aviation fuel
• Sustainable Travel - Stay in a eco hotel
• Sustainable Lifestyle - Offset your Home and Car; purchase solar panels
• Choose Sustainable - Purchase wine from an eco vineyard; offset Qantas Wine or Qantas Store delivery
• Reduce Your Impact - Take our impact quiz to learn how
• Give Back - Contribute to a sustainability organisation or project

As someone who doesn't own a car and lives in an apartment, and who doesn't drink alcohol, I'm not sure if it'll be possible for me to qualify for the minimum 5 categories. (I'm certainly not going to burn points on a toaster just so I can get the delivery offset.) A shame, cause otherwise the Green Tier is something that would be of interest, given that one of the reward options is status credits.

Interesting point you make. You would have less environmental impact than most people.
You're inability to offest the impact you don't make might mean it's harder for you to be rewarded.

 

[RichardMEL]

For the status chasers almost certain the earn would be minimal sorry to say. absolute max of 50 IMO and probably less. I could be wrong, but I don't see this as a big way to earn points or SC in and of itself.

I see this as a combination of what many others have indicated here - a bit of data collection, a bit of awareness raising, a bit of product "upsell"/money making and a bit of virtual signaling.

It's not going to make me change my habits tbh. I do the little things I have always done - recycle what items I can. I don't drive so use PT (not ubers/ride share/cabs) where possible, I avoid delivery where possible (harder with covid) and ll that. QF specific I am not sure the apparent benefits would be worth it to make significant changes (and an eco hotel is not my cup of tea, though when I stay at regular hotels I do the usual things like hanging up used towels and all that to not clean daily and all that). That's just me imo but I wouldn't be expecting major earn from this program.

 

[Danielb56]

Indeed, the best thing Qantas could do for the planet would be to encourage its members to fly as little as possible & therefore reduce its carbon emissions by cutting flights. The irony!

I think this is typical virtue signaling rather than a real change. One of my issues around any new initiative is who pays. If we go back many years whenever any new incentives i.e the Model T Ford. It was Fiord who paid for the initiative and not the government (i.e. us). If any of these companies Qantas, Twiggy Forrest really believe in this then why not fork out the money to change things themselves instead of getting handouts from the govt. I'm a modern day sceptic when big tech/companies have these initiatives. There is more I can say but that's enough for now.

 

[Jean Prouvaire]

For the status chasers almost certain the earn would be minimal sorry to say. absolute max of 50 IMO and probably less. I could be wrong, but I don't see this as a big way to earn points or SC in and of itself.

As long as status credits count towards Lifetime Gold, I'll take 'em!

 

[Danielb56]

As long as status credits count towards Lifetime Gold, I'll take 'em!

I hear you and many people will do the same...

 

[RichardMEL]

I get it, but my point is I guess... the effort to receive those, likely small, SCs may be more than they're worth even with a goal of LTS,LTG (or LTP for some pathetic dreamers with only 35k SC's on the board )

of course they could be the 50SC(or whatever) to tip one over the edge to attaining/retaining Gold in a single year too, so I suppose everyone's goals are going to be subjective.

It just seems like a lot of hoops to jump through for potentially small reward. I guess we await the details.

 

[mviy]

I need a lot of SC to get WP back and if travel is severely impacted by new variants the chances of another status extension for SG goes up meaning no rush to push for levelling up again. I'd need the prospect of a lot more than 50SC and have those count towards lifetime to justify the effort.

 

[sudoer]

I'm half expecting the "extra status credits" to be in the form of a targeted DSC promo. Qantas rarely gives its FFs anything which doesn't incentivise additional spend.

 

[mviy]

I'm half expecting the "extra status credits" to be in the form of a targeted DSC promo. Qantas rarely gives its FFs anything which doesn't incentivise additional spend.

That might make it worth it. For obtaining or retaining WP DSC offers are critical for me.

 

[Ade]

Pricing non-stop domestic flights cheaper than those with connections?

Now, now ... let's slow down ... let's not say things that might give QF ideas like that... let's not say things we might regret later

 

[exceladdict]

I'm half expecting the "extra status credits" to be in the form of a targeted DSC promo. Qantas rarely gives its FFs anything which doesn't incentivise additional spend.

If they wanted to really put their money where their mouth is, they could offer DSC for all flights offset by carbon credits.

 

[Ade]

If they wanted to really put their money where their mouth is, they could offer DSC for all flights offset by carbon credits.

Now, this is an idea that I'd like to QF to take note of and implement

 

[RichardMEL]

I'm half expecting the "extra status credits" to be in the form of a targeted DSC promo. Qantas rarely gives its FFs anything which doesn't incentivise additional spend.

Agree in general but this whole green thing IS incentivising extra spend as is - eg stay in an eco hotel (either via QF hotels, or with your QFF# they get revenue), buy greem wines (through QF wines), buy carbon offsets etc... these are all going to generate SOME extra revenue for QF.

I imagine it may be something like "purchase carbon offset for your QF flight, get X SC bonus" or "purchase eco friendly wine from QF wine, receive X SC bonus" type arrangement.

What I guess is unclear to me is are the extra SC attained once one gets the "Qantas Green status" and in which case how does that work? Would it be attain Green and get 50 or 100 bonus SC?

I think they'd potentially get more bites by incentivising the individual categories .. I mean even if it was a carbon offset of say $2 on a MEL-SYD flight generates 2SC (one can't expect big numbers) vs a SYD-LAX say generating 20SC those are things that may get some on board to do it. Attaining Green via 5 out of the 6 items listed seems a far more serious (and complex) commitment for the potential reward.

As always the devil will be in the (likely poorly worded ) detail.