Qantas lounge shoe policy - this is concerning

[Milefest]

Cool! Which lounge has the evac slide?

I'd imagine the vast majority of people using the lounge would be boarding a plane

 

[Deleted member 29185]

This debate is always good for a laugh at the frothing at the mouth that goes on! Now we're all waiting patiently for the "older" generation to die off gracefully before a free for all is introduced! I wonder if the zit-popping brigade realise the wait for the "older" generation to die off has been going since time began.......and they're still there, hanging on to life with a craggy, arthritic grip that just won't let go...........

 

[Flying mermaid]

Sounds like something Virgin might do.

and Google has - well a slide at work anyway.

 

[Flying mermaid]

Ok, so what are they going to do when faced with other environments that do not allow thongs? Eg: Some restaurants, many workplaces, stadium member's venues, golf clubs, restaurants, functions, places overseas where it is not allowed / considered disrespectful etc?

They don't wear rubber thongs they wear dressy thongs, which are basically sandals with bits between their toes. I doubt there is any restaurant in the world that wouldn't let them in wearing them.

 

[medhead]

We turned up to Raffles for dinner the in tiffen room a few years ago. BiL's wardrobe consists of the same pair of shorts and polo shirt that is used for all general occasions. Tiffen Room is strictly a trousers only place. After we were seated Maître d' discretely informed "sir" of the trousers requirement and enquired as to his size. A pair of trousers were then supplied for "sir" to wear.

Perhaps Qantas needs to adopt this type of approach.

 

[blackcat20]

They don't wear rubber thongs they wear dressy thongs, which are basically sandals with bits between their toes. I doubt there is any restaurant in the world that wouldn't let them in wearing them.

Which is exactly what I'm wearing at work right now...

 

[offshore171]

They don't wear rubber thongs they wear dressy thongs, which are basically sandals with bits between their toes. I doubt there is any restaurant in the world that wouldn't let them in wearing them.

There's plenty of restaurants in Europe that require men to wear jackets. I wouldn't like the chances of these establishments allowing thongs, even if they are of the gourmet variety.

 

[opusman]

Which is exactly what I'm wearing at work right now...

For some reason this made me think of an old Dilbert cartoon.

 

[offshore171]

I'd imagine the vast majority of people using the lounge would be boarding a plane

But 95% of the people on that plane would not have come via the lounge...

 

[medhead]

But 95% of the people on that plane would not have come via the lounge...

and...?

99%* of people using the lounge would end up on a plane.

 

[drron]

This debate is always good for a laugh at the frothing at the mouth that goes on! Now we're all waiting patiently for the "older" generation to die off gracefully before a free for all is introduced! I wonder if the zit-popping brigade realise the wait for the "older" generation to die off has been going since time began.......and they're still there, hanging on to life with a craggy, arthritic grip that just won't let go...........

But after the older generation has died off they become the older generation wondering why the younger ones have no standards.
And so it goes.

 

[offshore171]

and...?

99%* of people using the lounge would end up on a plane.

If your aim is to prevent people wearing heels on aircraft would you do the check at the lounge or the gate?

 

[Lord Mud]

Excellent, so if you want to wear thongs, you have the choice to go to your local pokie den.

FYI most pokie dens don't allow thongs either, especially the clubs and classy pubs (that arent). . Most licensed venues don't. Primarily because of glass related issues. Not to flame a war here but to me the OH&S issue is not about the flight safety as they would enforce footwear on the plane, the issue is about the cuts to feet from broken glass and china from people walking around with it. Sure open toed shoes are technically no better from that angle but there are also tripping issues around walking around with unsecured footwear. I have seen sooo many people go A over T from thongs partially coming off. Glass is more prone to get under foot from a thong that disconnects with the vast majority of the foot its connected to.

In the age of litigation, the more cotton wool provided the better covered the cough.

 

[Flying mermaid]

There's plenty of restaurants in Europe that require men to wear jackets. I wouldn't like the chances of these establishments allowing thongs, even if they are of the gourmet variety.

I have worn sandals to 3 star michelin restaurants in Europe and no one even glanced at my feet. One of the rare times of reverse discrimination - poor guys have to wear long pants jackets - even ties (if you want to do afternoon tea at the Ritz). Women have a much easier time generally, particularly with foot wear (except in Qantas lounges). of course work is different - oldest daughter had to wear appropriate shoes as she is a doctor at a hospital. Actually she doesn't wear appropriate shoes at all in my opinion - she wears heels - seriously 15 hour working days in heels!

 

[JohnK]

But after the older generation has died off they become the older generation wondering why the younger ones have no standards.
And so it goes.

Standards? What standards? Don't need standards to go through life.

And so it goes.

 

[medhead]

If your aim is to prevent people wearing heels on aircraft would you do the check at the lounge or the gate?

If we go back through this line of conversation I don't believe there was any suggestion of banning heels. the opposite in fact.

But the trouble with that argument is that high heels are forbidden on an evacuation slide so with that logic high heels should be banned from the lounges.

 

[TomVexille]

Glad that modern society has determined that dress standards are the biggest hindrance to society moving forward.

We can see that over the last 40-50 years society has been in rapid decline. That's not because of the rules in place. It's because of the push to relax/remove the rules that kept society functioning efficiently for so many years.

So sad to see society crumble in front of your eyes.

What a bit of drivel. So when was the ideal time? Rules have been disappearing for thousands of years. I guess that slavery was good, and that changing that rule was bad.Maybe we should be stoning people still, everyone should keep their head covered at all times, eating animal fat should still be banned and Australia should still have assault weapons available for sale. Or maybe society moves on. Mostly for the better. It's called progress. Or maybe we should go back to the Dark Ages

They don't wear rubber thongs they wear dressy thongs, which are basically sandals with bits between their toes. I doubt there is any restaurant in the world that wouldn't let them in wearing them.

I agree. A woman who is nicely dressed often has part to most of her feet visible. As long as she isn't wearing rubber thongs, I would think that she shouldn't have an issue getting into almost any establishment.

 

[footy99]

The new trial rules have nothing to do with safety. If it is determined thongs aren't safe to fly in and they are banned from the plane, I'm all for banning them from the lounge too. Like everything else, the idea of a separate dress code for the pre-flight sitting area and the flight is fundamentally absurd. It's identical in every way to imposing a dress code in a train station that doesn't apply to the train. Fortunately every pre-flight lounge on the planet is aware of this, except for a couple of domestic QPs trialling these new rules.

It's got nothing to do with class either. These are still encouraged:

While these are strictly forbidden, usually (there is no consistency):

It also doesn't apply in any of Qantas's good lounges (ie international lounges) - they know better than that!

It is purely so Qantas is seen to be trying to do something to appease a few of their most judgmental clients who continue to whine about how short the teenagers shorts are these days, or the sound of open shoes doesn't go well with their toast. There's nothing more to it. Luckily that unfortunate sector of the FF community are predominantly just domestic travellers so none of the good lounges we advertise need to be affected and the obviousness foolishness of the attempt isn't exposed outside Australia.

 

[RichardMEL]

ADL does have the policy (or at least did, the last time I was there in Nov). But if someone enters the lounge in shoes and then proceeds to take off their shoes and smelly socks in full view in the lounge and put on a pair of dilapidated thongs instead, the lounge staff are not prepared to do anything about it.

oh.. I stand corrected re ADL

in that case... yes I've seen "inappropriate footwear" (per the policy) there too

 

[JohnK]

What a bit of drivel. So when was the ideal time? Rules have been disappearing for thousands of years. I guess that slavery was good, and that changing that rule was bad.Maybe we should be stoning people still, everyone should keep their head covered at all times, eating animal fat should still be banned and Australia should still have assault weapons available for sale. Or maybe society moves on. Mostly for the better. It's called progress. Or maybe we should go back to the Dark Ages

Did you need more time to think of some more extreme examples?

I stand by my opinion. Slackening of rules and standards is why society is degrading in front of your eyes. Not some cruel twist of fate.

But please continue to rubbish my opinion.