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Just an observation - but it would pay to check the wording of the DSC offer - to see if it is one of the ones that excludes the DSC from eligibility to Status Bonus and WP1. May make the question moot.
Just an observation - but it would pay to check the wording of the DSC offer - to see if it is one of the ones that excludes the DSC from eligibility to Status Bonus and WP1. May make the question moot.
Yes. I understand the logic. This just seems to be an awfully wasteful way to ensure WP in two years time (and there's no guarantee that the rules won't change by then, of course).
My point is regarding your comment about "moving" DSC bookings into the next membership year (or from it). This implies you have one of the targeted ones, since the last general DSC offer allowed for travel till 31 August this year. However, I'll use that as an example
If your membership year ended on July 31 then you're suggesting you could move some DSC eligible flying from August to prior to the end of July this year. Remember I don't know YOUR exact circumstances, I am just making up dates here.... so the idea would be to get enough to make 3600 inc DSC by the end of July.
Not knowing how short you are of 3600 at this point, but I'll assume 800. Reading between the lines of the above, you have enough current bookings under DSC conditions to get, for exampe, 800 SC. Seems you do not have enough to make 1200 because if you did this wouldn't be an issue, you'd leave those bookings in the next membership year and have nigh on two membership years of WP.
But what if you, instead of moving the DSC trips into THIS membership year, but you kept them in the next and then fly the extra as status runs in your next membership year? Yes, I know you have little planned flying (dropping to silver obviously imlies a sub 300 earn). Of course if you're WP now, you'd drop to Gold next year anyway, but that would then, I presume, drop to Silver the year after which you want Wp for. If it were me, I would keep the DSC trips in next membership year, and do a couple of status runs, which would up back to WP, which would continue for the year after. You wouldn't have P1, but you'd still achieve your goal.
IMO.
Just an observation - but it would pay to check the wording of the DSC offer - to see if it is one of the ones that excludes the DSC from eligibility to Status Bonus and WP1. May make the question moot.
But what if you, instead of moving the DSC trips into THIS membership year, but you kept them in the next and then fly the extra as status runs in your next membership year? Yes, I know you have little planned flying (dropping to silver obviously imlies a sub 300 earn). Of course if you're WP now, you'd drop to Gold next year anyway, but that would then, I presume, drop to Silver the year after which you want Wp for. If it were me, I would keep the DSC trips in next membership year, and do a couple of status runs, which would up back to WP, which would continue for the year after. You wouldn't have P1, but you'd still achieve your goal.
IMO.
This pretty much sums up the situation. Indeed, my anniversary date is the 31st of July. I can move a couple of bookings of approx 600SCs into August (for trips I need to take anyway) which would still qualify for DSC (Ts n Cs say 31Aug end date), and make a new booking for the June/July flights with QF, or even VA (and qualify for gold renewal with them). This would mean I probably have enough SCs in my next year to qualify for gold, which would be better than starting my flying again at Silver (I don't yet have LTG, just LTS).
I've got no inclination to do a status run for WP and I'd probably be hundreds of SCs away. I don't mind some mildly irritating routing to catch extra SC, but I could not be bothered getting on a plane simply for achieving status. It would also have me paying, rather than work. No thanks.
Did you soft land from P1 to WP? How many SC did you earn that year you dropped?Dropped back to Gold from WP/WP1 for the first time in years...and amazed at the difference. Called up to book a QF reward ticket that errored out online (because of the extra availability for Golds and above and then booking for someone who is a Bronze bug, which has been around for ages and never fixed). Tried multiple times at different times of the day over several days and gave up after waiting 40+mins each time. Eventually about after 5th time, got through in 30mins and the agent had no clue what to do and just kept saying the seat doesn't exist. Gave up and asked my sister to book the flight for me (who is still WP) and she did it all in less than 10mins, with zero wait time on the phone.
I can't imagine what would happen if you had silver or bronze status...
I’m not fussed. Although this time I intend using my reply to any welcome email to provide a bit of feedback on QF generally, not just P1.Looking back at my flight history, it appears it took them either one day or one month. Hopefully in your case, it's one day!
I’m not fussed. Although this time I intend using my reply to any welcome email to provide a bit of feedback on QF generally, not just P1.
Then it seems like you should fly your trips in August to me and attain Gold for your Aug-Jul 20 membership year. You still have very good benefits going forward, and if you have much more flying into 2021, then you'd soon likely take back WP anyway.
SC year starting | Don't qual for p1 (end year SCs) | Attain p1 (end year SCs) | note... |
---|---|---|---|
current year | WP (3,400) | P1 (3,700) | |
1-Aug-2019 | WP (700) | P1 (~400) | won't be flying much |
1-Aug-2020 | SG | WP | will be flying a lot |
Here's how I calculate it. I'm currently 3090 SCs (have already achieved >2,700 on QF). My Calendar year starts on 1-Aug.
If I want, I can move DSC bookings of 610 into August, I need to take these flights anyway. And re-book the original flights in June/July with QF (or even Virgin). This would mean I wouldn't qualify for P1 at ~3,400SCs in this current status year. But would mean that I'd easily qualify for Gold during that year, even though I probably won't be doing any other flying. However, if there is indeed a soft landing to WP after P1, then I may as well keep my DSC bookings and attain p1 status.
Here's my Status summary.
SC year starting Don't qual for p1 (end year SCs) Attain p1 (end year SCs) note... current year WP (3,400) P1 (3,700)1-Aug-2019 WP (700) P1 (~400)won't be flying much 1-Aug-2020 SG WPwill be flying a lot
So if there is a soft landing to WP, it makes sense to attain p1, I'll start my 1-Aug-2020 year as WP with all the benefits and only need to achieve 1,200 SCs to re-qualify WP. Compared to flying that year as SG and needing 1,400SC to re-earn WP
That gives a lot more info thank you.
Yes, sure, if you attain P1 before end of July you'll have it till July 31, 2020 then, in theory, fall to WP for 2020. Yes, that makes sense.
SC Year starting | Attain p1 (end year SCs) |
---|---|
current year | P1 (3,700) |
1-Aug-2019 | P1 (~400) |
1-Aug-2020 | Silver (shudder) |
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Scenario with no soft landing.....
SC Year starting Attain p1 (end year SCs) current year P1 (3,700) 1-Aug-2019 P1 (~400) 1-Aug-2020 Silver (shudder)
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Here's how I calculate it. I'm currently 3090 SCs (have already achieved >2,700 on QF). My Calendar year starts on 1-Aug.
If I want, I can move DSC bookings of 610 into August, I need to take these flights anyway. And re-book the original flights in June/July with QF (or even Virgin). This would mean I wouldn't qualify for P1 at ~3,400SCs in this current status year. But would mean that I'd easily qualify for Gold during that year, even though I probably won't be doing any other flying. However, if there is indeed a soft landing to WP after P1, then I may as well keep my DSC bookings and attain p1 status.