Qantas Platinum One experiences?

I'm P1 and when I flew Cathay 2 months ago (HK to Shanghai), the FA greeted me and recognised my P1.
Hopefully this is the same with EK/
 
Flying J on an EK codeshare in a couple of weeks from AKL to MEL in a few weeks time and will report back if CL is recognised by EK or not.

If it is a QF marketed flight, bought through Qantas, then I would suspect/hope that most - if not all - CL benefits would apply (especially since most CL benefits are ground based ones). Perhaps the only disconnect may be onboard given I'm not sure if Emirates CRM system can identify CL properly.

It'll be most interesting to read your feedback after the flight The Flying Brick as it'll show how well (or not) the airline unique VVIPs are managed across the alliance divide. And the Emirates MEL-AKL-MEL service is very nice (although, ironically I enjoyed F on the 777 more than on the A380). Hope you score an op-up on your flight, although J is very good so either way I'm sure it'll be a enjoyable flight.
 
Flying in Y on EK DXB to LHR on QF codeshare will see if they recognise PI on the 23rd January
 
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I'm P1 and when I flew Cathay 2 months ago (HK to Shanghai), the FA greeted me and recognised my P1.
Hopefully this is the same with EK/

Did the FA have some kind of internal reference list - I'm guessing P1 wouldn't be shown on a CX boarding pass?

In any event, very nice that it was recognised outside QF.
 
Did the FA have some kind of internal reference list - I'm guessing P1 wouldn't be shown on a CX boarding pass?

In any event, very nice that it was recognised outside QF.

Yes indeed :)
My BP didn't list me as P1 but did show that I'm a sapphire member.
 
I'm P1 from the day this program started (by traveling a lot of Dom Y) and I can say it does gives a higher level of service but I don't feel it's 3 times better then WP as it's 3 times harder to retain.

A few ways to improve P1:
- Upgrades. QF doesn't seem to have a clear system of upgrades and it looks like P1's don't get more then WP's. QF should create a system that gives P1's more upgrades and make sure all members receive their fair share.
- Tailoring P1 to the individual pax. Not everyone travels the same and the current "one fits all" program is not effective.

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Hi Boomy. I can understand your sentiments, and agree you are mostly likely right in stating P1 isn't three times better than WP. In status programs generally, the higher you go up the more gradual the benefits become, in terms of jumps in benefits. For example, from Silver to Gold is a rather big benefit upgrade (in terms of everyday benefit). Most of the top-tier benefits really come into play for high benefit/irregular events. P1's SST assistance during cancelled flights/operational problems, for example, is a benefit that doesn't come into play often, but is sure valued when the s***t hits the fan I'd say.

So even though you are right about the jump in SCs required, I don't think it'll ever work out as 3x the benefit.

On upgrades, this has got to be the trickiest area for every airline - because the last thing they want to do is forego potential revenue. Hence op-ups on Qantas aren't really foreseeable - so if you really want to ensure J/F you have to use $ or points (which is exactly what Qantas wants). Murphy's Law in that if the airline thinks you'll bite the bullet, that's when your least likely to get op-up'ed lol. Still the P1 upgrade success advanced notice is a nice benefit, and the chances of an op-up as a P1 have to be better than most. The trouble with actually specifying the number of op-ups that *will* be given (from the airline's point of view) is that they will have to give you that number lol.

It's interesting that PEV is the 'hidden' status level that impacts shadows, op-ups and the like (although it should be roughly aligned with known status). This really is Qantas mining data for leveraging.

As to tailoring P1, this will hopefully get better as time passes, and is likely to be really useful in the future. Qantas just has to start collecting the small data to make it happen. Imagine them already having your favourite drink prepared, to give to you soon after you have seated. Knowing that you always like to get away to Noosa every year, and giving you individual only deals to match your desires. Right now, it's true, this happens mostly on a personal relationship basis between customers and FAs that keep meeting each other onboard - but it'll get there I think.

Congrats for being a foundation P1 (you'll forever retain that experience) - it probably will never make absolute sense to kill yourself just trying to retain P1, but if you just happen to get there without making much of an effort, it's good that it's there I'd say.
 
Only Cathay J flight back from HKG-PER last night, I saw the supervisors cheat sheet... She listed All OW and MPC status pax. But only circled DM, GO and EMRD members...

I didn't get a circle as a SAPH. :(
 
... It's interesting that PEV is the 'hidden' status level that impacts shadows, op-ups and the like (although it should be roughly aligned with known status). This really is Qantas mining data for leveraging. As to tailoring P1, this will hopefully get better as time passes, and is likely to be really useful in the future. Qantas just has to start collecting the small data to make it happen. ...
It's actually PCV and varies for every travelled segment. Assessment parameters such as status, booking class (fare bucket), long and short term travel history and a host of other facets may contribute. As for tailoring, this is already done; however, like priority/premium boarding, it's up to the staff at the coal face to actually take the time to dig down with the iPad and implement it. Such includes making entries regarding individual passengers etc. This is where the main point of failure appears to be.
 
It's actually PCV and varies for every travelled segment. Assessment parameters such as status, booking class (fare bucket), long and short term travel history and a host of other facets may contribute. As for tailoring, this is already done; however, like priority/premium boarding, it's up to the staff at the coal face to actually take the time to dig down with the iPad and implement it. Such includes making entries regarding individual passengers etc. This is where the main point of failure appears to be.

Perceived Customer Value as a label, I find, is less descriptive of what is being measured - and such labels vary in name from airline to airline. But agreed I used a generic term instead of a Qantas specific term - apologies if that confused anyone (you seemed to understand it, I imagine most would). Economic as a word refers to more than just $$$ involved from the pax, and includes such difficult to quantify components such as organisational influence (i.e. Travel contract managers, etc), community standing (goodwill transfer etc), and other important influencers.

With respect to tailoring, Qantas doesn't capture "small" data yet (compared to "big" data such as fare history, etc) via its CRM system - not at the micro level - and my understanding is that is what they eventually intend to also capture (the trick is to capture micro data without it swamping its relevance - otherwise known as the garbage in, garbage out problem - so it involves working out what micro data is most relevant to the customer relationship, as well as making it easy to capture said data). This is of relevance as it has often been found that micro interactions often have greater CRM benefits (or consequences) than their actual cost to do. Companies are always keen to leverage such economies, hence why there is a focus on at the moment to broaden CRM systems (like KLM did recently). You probably aren't interested in the background, but you never know, so there you are.

Your point about CSMs digging down in the iPad is a good one regarding this "big" data focus - if you have to "dig" for such valuable information on micro influencers, it's a reason to re-organise your CRM interface. Staff don't have time mostly to research on the spot - they need access to information quickly, that is presented in an easy to comprehend layout, in order to make the most of it. Qantas continues to update and refine its CRM system to get to that point, and they should be commended for making it a priority.
 
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I won't post it here but there are multiple reasons why WP1 is worth chasing (some members here are taking advantage of this secret).
Unfortunately for QF Loyalty, those reasons actually destroy loyalty rather than build it. QF doesn't know it yet because this is a multi-year plan and won't show on the balance sheet until it's too late. Dare I suggest the opportunity cost here may be equivalent to a new 737 annually.

QF Loyalty is obviously running thin on new ideas, so they're rolling with something they know kind of works and has yielded results in the past. Nothing wrong with that.
What would be my ideal outcome? I'd like to see them come up with innovative and engaging ideas that build loyalty, increase member satisfaction and ultimately boost profitability of QFF.

Maybe they're getting lazy, the junior kids are taking over or perhaps people making the decisions are too jaded in their job. Whatever the case - the program needs a fresh set of eyes to improve areas that it's lacking in (keeping in mind most of the program works flawlessly and does it's job very well).

I'd be very interested in this apparent secret and whilst it may not be posted here, I'd be willing to accept a PM from anyone wishing to help :D

The "destroying loyalty rather than building it" description would suggest that it has to do with benefits when not flying QF but besides lounge access, I can't think of anything along those lines.
 
The "destroying loyalty rather than building it" description would suggest that it has to do with benefits when not flying QF but besides lounge access, I can't think of anything along those lines.

It's slightly off-topic, as it doesn't relate to P1 per say, but one great catch-22 in the Qantas loyalty scheme is the Lifetime QFF offerings. Less so for LTS, but LTG (because of its Lounge access) has its problems as a loyalty tool. It's great for stickiness while you are on your way to earning it, but a significant number of LTGs become somewhat less sticky thereafter first getting it - because while you don't get FLounge access on status alone, most people are happy enough. Indeed, a number of LTGs here have expressed on the forums that now they have LTG they pick flights based on convenience of arr/dep or price.

One reason why 14,000 SCs takes a lot of flying lol
 
I'd be very interested in this apparent secret and whilst it may not be posted here, I'd be willing to accept a PM from anyone wishing to help :D

Me too as a newly minted P1 would like to make the most of it as not sure will make it again next year :D
 

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