Qantas Poor SC/Points Earning on MH Business Class ADL-LHR

[Brain Drain]

Qantas scam. Yes they have reached a new low . Booked Malaysian business from Adl to Lhr . Only getting Qantas status points for Adl to Mel yet Both partners in one world. I booked this flight because my return flight is direct from KL to Adelaide so baggage hassle is less . Come on Qantas be fair to your Gold card customers.

 

[Mwenenzi]

Brain Drain. Welcome to AFF

Qantas scam. Yes they have reached a new low . Booked Malaysian business from Adl to Lhr . Only getting Qantas status points for Adl to Mel yet Both partners in one world. I booked this flight because my return flight is direct from KL to Adelaide so baggage hassle is less . Come on Qantas be fair to your Gold card customers.

Not a scam. QF ffp earning from MH flights have been low for years. As published on the QF web site. MH Business credits as flex economy.
What was the fare booking class?
Qatar QR could have got to ADL-DOH LHR, but poor QF ffp earnings.

https://www.qantas.com/au/en/frequent-flyer/earn-points/airline-earning-tables/earn-category-tables.html#malaysia-airlines

https://www.qantas.com/nz/en/frequent-flyer/earning-points/flights/malaysia-airlines.html

 

[RooFlyer]

Welcome to AFF @Brain Drain .

When you say you only got points for ADL to MEL (do you mean KUL?) is that from them merely not crediting to your account, or have you sent in a points/SC claim and been denied?

If just not credited, this is not uncommon and you can put in a claim (I don't know the portal, sorry).

If done that and denied, it appears you should get both points and Status Credits (SCs): from the Qantas points calculator

Qantas Points Calculators | Frequent Flyer

Find out all you need to know about earning and using Qantas Points with our points calculators.

www.qantas.com

I couldn't get it to show Business; I don't fly MH at all and there may be some equating of Business and Flex Economy. Again, not all airlines are treated equally. The fact that they are both in OneWorld isn't relevant - its the airline and fare basis that Qantas takes into account when awarding points and SCs (or not).

Hopefully someone more knowledgeable about QF and MH can chime in - perhaps @serfty

 

[p--and--t]

MH earnings have been very low for as long back as I can remember. Nothing new to see here AFAICS

 

[justinbrett]

This is the info you need.



Although both in oneworld, QF and MH are competitors, so QF discourages travelling them on routes in competition, especially Australia - Europe.

No earn for business as business, but it might count as flex economy (you'd have to check the fare class)

 

[RooFlyer]

MH earnings have been very low for as long back as I can remember. Nothing new to see here AFAICS

Low, but not zero (SCs), for a business ticket (regardless of fare class) I think?

 

[jase05]

Nothing new unfortunately. Qantas refuses to fly Internationally out of ADL and also punishes OW members that do so.

 

[justinbrett]

Nothing new unfortunately. Qantas refuses to fly Internationally out of ADL and also punishes OW members that do so.

Because QF codeshares on EK, you'll get full QF points & SCs with them.

 

[jase05]

Because QF codeshares on EK, you'll get full QF points & SCs with them.

EK hasn’t returned to ADL and nothing concrete to suggest they will. Qantas has forced us to fly with other OW carriers and then punishes us for the privilege of doing so

 

[justinbrett]

EK hasn’t returned to ADL and nothing concrete to suggest they will. Qantas has forced us to fly with other OW carriers and then punishes us for the privilege of doing so

It's looking pretty certain for the NS schedule (however I'll admit I thought it already happened, I don't pay much attention to what goes on in ADL)

Emirates to go all A380 to Sydney by November, plans return to Adelaide

Airline upgrades third daily Sydney flight with double-decker, translating into nearly extra 2,000 available seats a week Plans restart of services to Adelaide in conjunction with A350 delivery rollout DUBAI, UAE 12 September 2023: Further building on its commitment to provide customers expanded...

www.emirates.com

 

[jase05]

It's looking pretty certain for the NS schedule (however I'll admit I thought it already happened, I don't pay much attention to what goes on in ADL)

Emirates to go all A380 to Sydney by November, plans return to Adelaide

Airline upgrades third daily Sydney flight with double-decker, translating into nearly extra 2,000 available seats a week Plans restart of services to Adelaide in conjunction with A350 delivery rollout DUBAI, UAE 12 September 2023: Further building on its commitment to provide customers expanded...

www.emirates.com

Would be nice but everything has seemed to have gone quiet. None of my usual contacts at the airport or at government have heard anything more recent. We have used them in the past from ADL but still went via the East Coast thanks to the horrible aircraft they were using at the time. Will be great to have them back when/if it eventuates

 

[justinbrett]

Would be nice but everything has seemed to have gone quiet. None of my usual contacts at the airport or at government have heard anything more recent. We have used them in the past from ADL but still went via the East Coast thanks to the horrible aircraft they were using at the time. Will be great to have them back when/if it eventuates

I wonder what the loads are on QF ADL-PER-LHR? If QF is getting a lot of pax perhaps they've been pressuring EK.

Just spitballing.

 

[RichardMEL]

QF/MH have had a rocky relationship for years (remember the "Red" joint ventture that went pear shaped?) and yes, they also compete, and QF has actively pushed towards its own kangaroo route services via PER and SIN over connections over KUL (the MH product used to be quite OK prior to covid, not so sure about now) via poor earn as noted by a few above. You can see the clear intent by the difference between earning for non competing routes and the Kangaroo routes (eg: Oz-KUL, KUL-LHR).

I can see why the OP (welcome to AFF) feels it is a scam though it isn't really. You'd THINK you'd get reasonable or equal(ish) earn on an apparent partner... but as we know with QFF nothing is either "Simpler" or "fairer" unfortunately and doing one's research is key with such things (it shouldn't HAVE to be, but sadly it is).

 

[jrfsp]

I think EK have quietly pushed ADL further back.

Generally speaking, QFFF points earning is poor on nearly all OW airlines (AA is not too bad)

 

[jase05]

I wonder what the loads are on QF ADL-PER-LHR? If QF is getting a lot of pax perhaps they've been pressuring EK.

Just spitballing.

Yeah, I honestly don’t know. Personally going via PER doesn’t interest me in the slightest and that’s even if prices were similar but as it is SQ and QR are generally about $1k cheaper than QF in J for a vastly better product overall.
I know plenty of friends and work colleagues who have flown to the UK in Y and think it’s a 50/50 split between QR and SQ, I don’t know anyone who has flown QF. SQ is normally the cheapest of the 3 but I guess some prefer a stopover in Doha or Singapore over Perth especially if they can get a stopover package.

 

[jase05]

I think EK have quietly pushed ADL further back.

Generally speaking, QFFF points earning is poor on nearly all OW airlines (AA is not too bad)

That was the main reason I switched to BAEC

 

[aikman]

It is kind of a scam. Advertise the benefits of oneworld membership but change the fine print to suit one's own self interest. Like all scams you just have to be aware of it and avoid it.

 

[Pushka]

Would be nice but everything has seemed to have gone quiet. None of my usual contacts at the airport or at government have heard anything more recent. We have used them in the past from ADL but still went via the East Coast thanks to the horrible aircraft they were using at the time. Will be great to have them back when/if it eventuates

And their flights were packed every time.

 

[Quickstatus]

Advertise the benefits of oneworld membership

1)Connection in a oneworld network - yes, sort of. They call it "Global", but whatever
2)Earning and redeeming - yes, sort of . But the details are always in the fine print
3)Airport lounge - yes, sort of.
4)Priority checkin - yes, compared with non priority.
5) Speed and ease AKA removal of points of friction in travel - yes, sort of, maybe
6) Extra baggage allowance - yes

The details are always important but often overlooked.

 

[SYD]

MH earnings have been very low for as long back as I can remember. Nothing new to see here AFAICS

Since July 2014 as part of “Simpler & Fairer” (TM). Prior to that MH earned the same as other OW partners for the 18 odd months from joining OW in Feb 2013(?).

The irony is QF sponsored MH into OW but something went south in a bad way in the intervening period.

EK hasn’t returned to ADL and nothing concrete to suggest they will. Qantas has forced us to fly with other OW carriers and then punishes us for the privilege of doing so

MH aside (which is coughty), QR ex ADL earns better SCs than ex SYD, MEL and BNE….