Qantas Poor SC/Points Earning on MH Business Class ADL-LHR

[RooFlyer]

For Rooflyer you will not find J or F on the QF points and status credit calculator if it relates to MH if Aust or UK city names are put in.

So I found out - see post # 3

 

[RooFlyer]

That's disappointing as I was looking to remove my QF golden handcuffs now Seat Son lives in Abu Dhabi not Dubai

Star Alliance are not as cohesive as OneWorld, but can still reap some nice rewards. I maintain accounts with Air Canada Aeroplan and Singapore Airlines Kris Flyer. I usually credit my miles to KF and although they expire in 3 years, I usually earn enough to plug a sector into one of the trips I do.

Aeroplan is arguably the best FF program out there, with lots and lots of non *A partners to redeem on and you can buy their miles at very good rates when they have a bonus promo on.

I guess you will be flying EY a lot. I'd credit those to either Aeroplan or EY's own program.

 

[Seat0B]

Star Alliance are not as cohesive as OneWorld, but can still reap some nice rewards. I maintain accounts with Air Canada Aeroplan and Singapore Airlines Kris Flyer. I usually credit my miles to KF and although they expire in 3 years, I usually earn enough to plug a sector into one of the trips I do.

Aeroplan is arguably the best FF program out there, with lots and lots of non *A partners to redeem on and you can buy their miles at very good rates when they have a bonus promo on.

I guess you will be flying EY a lot. I'd credit those to either Aeroplan or EY's own program.

I see I have a big research program to undertake!

 

[justinbrett]

That's disappointing as I was looking to remove my QF golden handcuffs now Seat Son lives in Abu Dhabi not Dubai

When EK move to DWC it might make it easier for you. I'd imagine they'll build rail links to both Abu Dhabi and Dubai if that happens. EY flights to Australia are quite limited these days.

In fact IMO EK & EY are one GFC away from a merge. They're placing quite nicely together these days.

 

[Seat0B]

When EK move to DWC it might make it easier for you. I'd imagine they'll build rail links to both Abu Dhabi and Dubai if that happens. EY flights to Australia are quite limited these days.

In fact IMO EK & EY are one GFC away from a merge. They're placing quite nicely together these days.

Are they moving to DWC? I had not heard anything about that! On a side note, we once sat on the tarmac at DWC for 4 hrs when our EK flight from FCO-DXB was diverted there for a sandstorm.

And it would be so so great for me if EK and EY did merge....but there is very strong emirate specific pride between Dubai and Abu Dhabi, and I'm not sure how that would work out at the political level. But I sure hope it does.

 

[justinbrett]

Are they moving to DWC? I had not heard anything about that! On a side note, we once sat on the tarmac at DWC for 4 hrs when our EK flight from FCO-DXB was diverted there for a sandstorm.

And it would be so so great for me if EK and EY did merge....but there is very strong emirate specific pride between Dubai and Abu Dhabi, and I'm not sure how that would work out at the political level. But I sure hope it does.

It's on the table, no decision made yet (it's up to the Emir of Dubai as far as I can tell). Clark says DWC terminal would enable Emirates to reach ‘critical mass’

Having recently flown through DXB I was not a fan - I liked the lounges but the airport itself seems not well designed. It's also very close to the city centre so that land can probably be used for something else.

QR moved in DOH. I think EK has to do it to remain competitive.

I lived in Abu Dhabi for a period so well aware of the politics, but I think they are starting to be a bit more nationalistic (I mean we have state pride too). I mean, just look at how they named Burj Khalifah! (It was supposed to be Burj Dubai until they ran out of money).

 

[encryptededdy]

Hmm, something's wrong here. The Malaysian Business fare classes according to ExpertFlyer are J, C, D, Z, I. As far as I can see, all should earn as Flexible Economy to QFF between Malaysia and the UK. Therefore, there's been a mistake if you earned nothing KUL-LHR. I would retain my boarding pass and put in a claim with Qantas.

 

[Austman]

To note as well that Malaysia Airlines flights only seem to be credited to Qantas FF once a week. (maybe twice)

Some MH flights can credit before others. Even if the flights were taken just a day apart.

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

Only way I can see to bypass this, if flying long haul, and needing to do something in KUL, eg, LAX to KUL, or vv, and you can forgo a bit, and live in ADL, is to fly the ADL - KUL sector in Y, or the cheapest fare, and then from there to to the UK (on from/to UK flights, if you are an AAadvantage miles member, put that into the MH booking (!), US/other cities in J/F.
So long as it does not involve Aust, the points and SC earn is quite good, ie, LAX - KUL in J is 160 QF SC, one way.
Its on the QF earn calculator, and flying MH J.
Ie, make a separate booking via a TA/online on the MH website.
Even putting an AA code on UK to KUL, flying MH J, will still earn 120 QF SC.

 

[RichardMEL]

I confirm there have been no DSCs on QF codeshare flown on EK metal for several years now, much to my chagrin when visiting Seat Son every year. Via Europe as well, so a lot of SC would be earned if I could get the DSC offers on these trips - heck I may even make it back to P1 if that ever came back.

Happy to be corrected on this, but iirc the only time there were DSC on EK codeshare flights was a limited number of trans tasman coeshares with EK (when EK had all those tags to AKL from MEL/SYD/BNE and the SYD-CHC flight which still survives) and QF had far more limited trans-trasman own metal flying. I did very well personally over those couple of years with cheap(ish) F sectors to and from AKL/CHC iirc it was 120 SC one way in F so 480 with DSC for a day return trip (or just say in NZ for a bit which was fun). Basically QF was admitting at the time that their NZ services were limited, but a good demand market, and EK had excess capacity on those tags and probably were happy for QF to sell a few more seats due to this promo (EK basically flew them because it was still expensive to have their a/c sitting on the ground for 12 hours in MEL/SYD/BNE and at the time there was no AKL-DXB nonstop - that came a bit later - so EK could funnel NZ origin pax through Oz to DXB and beyond. Then the nonstop came, and those flights lost $$$$. I flew on any number of sectors with VERY empty premium cabins. I remember once in J with maybe 3-4 pax in those huge J cabins, and another where it was myself and a friend in F). Anyway, iirc, if those DSC applied to more general QF codeshares on EK in other markets, it was very short lived.

(I did a bit of googling but only found reference to the trans-tasman ones circa 2016/17 - usually QF87xx flight numbers).

 

[RichardMEL]

Only way I can see to bypass this, if flying long haul, and needing to do something in KUL, eg, LAX to KUL, or vv, and you can forgo a bit, and live in ADL, is to fly the ADL - KUL sector in Y, or the cheapest fare, and then from there to to the UK (on from/to UK flights, if you are an AAadvantage miles member, put that into the MH booking (!), US/other cities in J/F.
So long as it does not involve Aust, the points and SC earn is quite good, ie, LAX - KUL in J is 160 QF SC, one way.
Its on the QF earn calculator, and flying MH J.
Ie, make a separate booking via a TA/online on the MH website.
Even putting an AA code on UK to KUL, flying MH J, will still earn 120 QF SC.

AA does not offer codeshares on MH KUL-LHR v.v. (the only codeshares I can see on the nonstop MH MH1/2/3/4 services are with FY (firefly, which only offers Y bookings) and SQ codeshares on some of the MH rather interestingly (but not on all days)

Indeed MH don't fly to the US due to the FAA downgrading their safety category and US carriers (eg: AA) can't codeshare on them due to this.

I see the confusion since the QF points calculator does offer BA and AA as dropdown options, but even BA don't codeshare on the MH services (again, that I can see via EF lookup) so I am unsure why these are in the calculator... but my point being that one can't actually BOOK these sectors with codeshares on them with AA or BA since they don't exist

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

Didn't know it was that "bad" so to speak.
Granted, I didn't go into the MH website and do a dummy booking.
Bad of me to only go into the QF calculator!