Qantas Project Sunrise goes ahead, 12 new A350-1000s ordered

[NM]

I wonder if anything has considered doing SYD-LHR-JFK-SYD, and SYD-JFK-LHR-SYD and if that might work for utilisation and avoid any extended tarmac time waiting for slots/curfews?

Someone once said to me "Ahh, now you are thinking outside the box", and I looked them in the eye and said "What box?".

 

[mviy]

I wonder if anything has considered doing SYD-LHR-JFK-SYD, and SYD-JFK-LHR-SYD and if that might work for utilisation and avoid any extended tarmac time waiting for slots/curfews?

Someone once said to me "Ahh, now you are thinking outside the box", and I looked them in the eye and said "What box?".

They would probably only be allowed to fly passengers connecting to/from Australia if at all for LHR-JFK so wouldn’t have a commercial number of passengers. Not enough travellers book RTW tickets to make that work.

 

[mviy]

I suspect SYD-LHR-SYD-JFK-SYD would be easier.

That would still need at least 5 aircraft for that if there were no curfews. They probably would need 6 for that as SYD, LHR and JFK all have curfews.

 

[SYD]

They would probably only be allowed to fly passengers connecting to/from Australia if at all for LHR-JFK so wouldn’t have a commercial number of passengers. Not enough travellers book RTW tickets to make that work.

Not if it had approval at both ends as a 5th freedom flight (but I wouldn’t be holding my breath).

 

[markis10]

Not if it had approval at both ends as a 5th freedom flight (but I wouldn’t be holding my breath).

NZ are looking at LAX-LHR resumption and have suggested JFK-LHR is doable, no reason why QF cannot do similar

 

[SYD]

NZ are looking at LAX-LHR resumption and have suggested JFK-LHR is doable, no reason why QF cannot do similar

It’s probably a lot more competitive (ie not profitable) v LAX/SFO to/from Europe/UK.

 

[Himeno]

They would probably only be allowed to fly passengers connecting to/from Australia if at all for LHR-JFK so wouldn’t have a commercial number of passengers. Not enough travellers book RTW tickets to make that work.

Operating transatlantic flights is something I was about to post
They would require 5th freedom rights to do so, which IASC is sitting on and Qantas has used in the past.

 

[dajop]

Not if it had approval at both ends as a 5th freedom flight (but I wouldn’t be holding my breath).

For it to work commercially they'd have to join the AA/BA/AY/EI/IB JV arrangement you'd think. Otherwise would be challenging to generate a decent profit from the sector.

 

[Quickstatus]

SYD-LHR-JFK-SYD

Now would that be piece allowance or weight allowance

 

[justinbrett]

NZ are looking at LAX-LHR resumption and have suggested JFK-LHR is doable, no reason why QF cannot do similar

I thought it was LAX-LGW

 

[NM]

SYD-LHR-JFK-SYD

Now would that be piece allowance or weight allowance

If touching the USA, then its piece.