Qantas slashing jobs and possibly selling FF program?

[cambriamarsh]

Re: Qantas to cut 1,000 Jobs.

Or has Geoff Dixon and Singo cut the board in on their private equity bid, so now the need to reduce the share price to make it workable?

serious skepticism!

 

[Must...Fly!]

Re: Qantas to cut 1,000 Jobs.

It is a gut feeling.

There is a huge push to allow greater foreign ownership. Surely that is not the only possible solution. Just like the Emirates partnership was not the only possible solution.

I think someone is trying to line their pockets before the end.

To allow greater foreign ownership in Qantas, or to try and impose a Virgin sale act?

We live in interesting times...

 

[redslert]

Re: Qantas to cut 1,000 Jobs.

Most people are questioning if Jetstar is actually profitable because they have been funneling a lot of costs back to Qantas.

 

[JohnK]

Yes I know about hubs. But if Qantas aren't willing to serve all of Australia then maybe all of Australia isn't there to support them. And a delay of at least three hours plus travel time getting to Sydney etc isn't on when there are other options.

I am not arguing with you but it is very difficult for Qantas to have an international hub in every Australian city. They have chosen SYD.

It is not fair expecting ADL or PER to each have a direct Qantas flight to SIN, BKK, NRT, HKG, MNL etc.

I really do not see the issue connecting via SYD.

 

[markis10]

Re: Qantas to cut 1,000 Jobs.

I fell sorry for the QF staff, as they are the ones paying the price of management decisions, yet they are Qantas's greatest asset. Smart money says you invest in staff during a downturn, food for thought, meanwhile both airbus and Boeing have backlogs stretching into the next decade for new equipment, on that note ground hog day?????

 

[Aussie_flyer]

Re: Qantas to cut 1,000 Jobs.

Yes I know about hubs. But if Qantas aren't willing to serve all of Australia then maybe all of Australia isn't there to support them. And a delay of at least three hours plus travel time getting to Sydney etc isn't on when there are other options.

What do you propose , direct services to all major cities worldwide from all Australian capital cities?

 

[jandj]

Re: Qantas to cut 1,000 Jobs.

I have thought for many years as poor old Q has lurched from drama to drama, is this part of a guided plan to provide a cheap business for sale ?
I remain unconvinced it is not....and our grand old lady is being tipped down the toilet......it will be rescued at a price though !!!!!!

So sad

 

[ReLoad]

Re: Qantas - back to basics

A radical devaluation of points would potentially sure up the balance sheet though. QF may not disappear but at a stroke of the pen they could significantly change QFFs liabilities. I'd certainly book sooner rather than later if you're hoarding points.

Devaluing the FF program is merely a paper step towards profitability, it will not in any way shape or form turn Qantas around, if anything it would have the opposite effect.
Qantas needs to fix its underlying root cause issues, and messing with its FF program (which is highly profitable) would be one of the most ludicrous things imaginable.

Whilst its NEVER a good idea to be hoarding points, its hardly time for a "run on the bank".

 

[DrA]

I am not arguing with you but it is very difficult for Qantas to have an international hub in every Australian city. They have chosen SYD.

It is not fair expecting ADL or PER to each have a direct Qantas flight to SIN, BKK, NRT, HKG, MNL etc.

I really do not see the issue connecting via SYD.

Not to all of the above, no. But a few to key ports (SIN, KUL and BKK in particular) would be good. The issue is that I do not want to spend 4 hours backtracking across the country from Perth to Sydney, dealing with dom-int transfers and having to backtrack again to get to SIN, KUL or BKK (total travel time >10 hours) when I can just get a direct flight to these ports on SQ, MH or TG in half the time.

 

[mannej]

I am not arguing with you but it is very difficult for Qantas to have an international hub in every Australian city. They have chosen SYD.

It is not fair expecting ADL or PER to each have a direct Qantas flight to SIN, BKK, NRT, HKG, MNL etc.

I really do not see the issue connecting via SYD.

That's not the point John - why would someone from PER want to fly via SYD or MEL to go to BKK or HKG or NRT. It's not really an option is it.
Part of the reason such flights may have failed with PER is due to the constant poor schedules and the changes.
That lack of respect is the issue, not being able to fly to everywhere via each AU capital.

 

[Pushka]

Re: Qantas to cut 1,000 Jobs.

What do you propose , direct services to all major cities worldwide from all Australian capital cities?

Dumping Adelaide and Perth didn't solve the issue did it. So just maybe they weren't part of the problem.

 

[Comoman]

I am not arguing with you but it is very difficult for Qantas to have an international hub in every Australian city. They have chosen SYD.

It is not fair expecting ADL or PER to each have a direct Qantas flight to SIN, BKK, NRT, HKG, MNL etc.

I really do not see the issue connecting via SYD.

No but when it's 5ish hours Per-Sin and sometimes 4ish hour Per-Syd then Syd-Sin it's a no brainer really. Same for HK.

A country the size for Aus needs more than 1 hub IMHO. AA has at least 3 (LAX, DFW and ORD) that I know of. Bigger population etc I know.

QF abandoned Perth.

 

[Comoman]

That's not the point John - why would someone from PER want to fly via SYD or MEL to go to BKK or HKG or NRT. It's not really an option is it.
Part of the reason such flights may have failed with PER is due to the constant poor schedules and the changes.
That lack of respect is the issue, not being able to fly to everywhere via each AU capital.

Absolutely.

 

[williamsf1]

Qantas staff blame Jetstar for airline's woes

No wonder why they call it the orange cancer

 

[Aussie_flyer]

The people flying CX, TG, MH , SQ etc out of Perth etc are mostly connecting elsewhere in the world. There is very little market to support a premium carrier offering point to point services on routes like Perth-Bangkok, Perth-Hong Kong etc. This has been proven by the fact Qantas has pulled out. If there was a massive market there for them they would be flying it. They are not doing it just purely to irritate people from those cities. There is no point taking it personally and feeling disrespected.

 

[mannej]

The people flying CX, TG, MH , SQ etc out of Perth etc are mostly connecting elsewhere in the world. There is very little market to support a premium carrier offering point to point services on routes like Perth-Bangkok, Perth-Hong Kong etc. This has been proven by the fact Qantas has pulled out. If there was a massive market there for them they would be flying it. They are not doing it just purely to irritate people from those cities. There is no point taking it personally and feeling disrespected.

Rubbish - all QF proved is that offering rubbish timings and constantly changing them, you aren't going to succeed.

HKG and NRT are two ports that offer ideal connections with OW partners, yet they chose not to capatilise on the fact.

The level of disrespect is clear and so easy for those from the east coast to mention without feeling anything.

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

Re: Qantas to cut 1,000 Jobs.

Totally agree that Joyce has been outwitted by Borghetti. I think QF passing over Borghetti was a big mistake. I still can't believe how Joyce was afforded an interview for the QF CEO job, but the same opportunity was not afforded to other applicants including Borghetti.

It was Geoff Dixon who favoured Joyce over Borghetti. Not QF's finest hour...

 

[DaveB]

Honesty is always the first casualty.
Somewhat ironic that late December, we will be having our first QFi flight for over five years to Singapore on our last JASA booked online. All points the past six months have gone to SQ, VA and CX.
When the best pose you can produce for the 2013 annual report is to have both hands in your pockets, it is time to go back to Ireland and play some golf.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

Re: Qantas to cut 1,000 Jobs.

Waiting for Virgin to announce direct flights from Adelaide and Perth to: Singapore, Tokyo and Hong Kong

 

[Pushka]

Qantas could have kept Singapore as a hub meaning direct flights Perth and Adelaide to Singapore then proceeding on the larger planes to Europe.
Emirates was never the answer - all that's happened is that we now book with Emirates and not Qantas. They've lost business. If I want to go to Singapore I'll fly direct with SQ. Same with HK with CX. Most likely will never travel internationally with Q again. How does that solve their issue?