Qantas Staff Perks

[ejb]

Who says they are first posts?

Hi John,

I was just going off the post count, and recently a lot of people with 1 post appear to be getting very upset and angry.

I never considered that people would hide behind multiple names.

ejb

 

[oz_mark]

Good point. I'd considered this but didn't really believe that people would be that subversive on a public forum. :shock:

To be honest, nor had I. But sometimes part of it I think relates to someone being aggrevated by something, doing a Google, ending up here then making a post to vent.

 

[NM]

On another forum I have been visiting for a couple of years it is not uncommon for some posters to have more than one active account. They use their primary account for most posts and then the secondary accounts to cause trouble or agree with the posts. Other people have been banned many times and keep creating a new account. It does not take long to work out the posting style.

John, if you have suspicions about any specific members using multiple handles, then feel free to send a PM to the mods and/or Admin and we can investigate. It is not appropriate for people to use multiple user names on AFF, especially for the purpose of trolling.

 

[JohnK]

John, if you have suspicions about any specific members using multiple handles, then feel free to send a PM to the mods and/or Admin and we can investigate.

I recognise the posting style in the recent Jetstar complaint thread. I am almost certain they have posted on AFF in the past and caused as much controversy. As I have no proof there is no point in taking it further.

 

[NM]

I recognise the posting style in the recent Jetstar complaint thread. I am almost certain they have posted on AFF in the past and caused as much controversy. As I have no proof there is no point in taking it further.

Use PM and convey your suspicions. There is no way you could have proof, but the proof may be visible to Admin or in some cases to the mods. We are happy to investigate real concerns.

 

[rocket47]

The difference from Y to J domestically is about $10-$15 dollars so it's hardly heart breaking if you don't get the upgrade. J class travel is available to all staff domestically, internationally after 7 years of service and First is for Captains only.



I'm not aware of a QP discount, but if there was it would be useless since you cannot access any lounge on a staff travel ticket unless the guest of another passenger.

As mentioned - staff travel is always standby - if you check in too early they can and do tell you to come back later. Even if they are spare seats in any cabin you can still be refused staff travel.

Also if you do see staff onboard they could be on duty travel. Yes, most duty travel is in J, but don't forget the company is paying for that staff memeber to travel J - just happens to be the company is an airline - it's no different if your company also gives you J class travel.

Actually, First on Vacation is for Captains and 'equivalent' ground personnel such as Airport Managers, General Managers and up. It goes on grading and from memory First entitlement in Management starts at what used to be admin levels, which are now basically 'management contract' positions.
Lots of staff over a certain grade get First on duty, usually it's firm J, upgradable to P. For Captains on 'operational' duty travel (positioning to operate) as opposed to 'non-operational' duty travel (off to do a course or relieve a manager somewhere on the network) it's firm first and nothing else - i.e. no first, no go and they will offload passengers to get him/her on but that makes perfect sense. Offload one passenger or offload the captain and 400 passengers don't travel downline because there's no Captain to operate their flight. Pretty logical in my book. The only other similar instance is Senior Mgrs and Board Level can displace normal passengers but once again, that is because, for instance, if they were travelling to resolve some issue that if not resolved, would result in the operating license being cancelled then that also justifies displacing one of us normal people as well. I wouldn't be complaining as it usually means a generous compensation for the inconvenience.

 

[straitman]

Actually, First on Vacation is for Captains and 'equivalent' ground personnel such as Airport Managers, General Managers and up. It goes on grading and from memory First entitlement in Management starts at what used to be admin levels, which are now basically 'management contract' positions.
Lots of staff over a certain grade get First on duty, usually it's firm J, upgradable to P. For Captains on 'operational' duty travel (positioning to operate) as opposed to 'non-operational' duty travel (off to do a course or relieve a manager somewhere on the network) it's firm first and nothing else - i.e. no first, no go and they will offload passengers to get him/her on but that makes perfect sense. Offload one passenger or offload the captain and 400 passengers don't travel downline because there's no Captain to operate their flight. Pretty logical in my book. The only other similar instance is Senior Mgrs and Board Level can displace normal passengers but once again, that is because, for instance, if they were travelling to resolve some issue that if not resolved, would result in the operating license being cancelled then that also justifies displacing one of us normal people as well. I wouldn't be complaining as it usually means a generous compensation for the inconvenience.

rocket47,

Welcome to AFF.

Thanks for the information & useful insight. This is always appreciated.

 

[possum FF]

There are a few misperceptions here.
The older staff get better benefits than those who joined the company more recently (ie about 10 years). The older staff can book unlimited trips at a reduced rate (about 10% + surcharges). The newer staff are limited in the frequency & class of travel.
The problems of being on stand by have been noted above. For this reason, many staff actually buy a commercial ticket instead.
In terms of FF & commercial travel, commercial passengers should take precedence. The worst offenders are tech crew (pilots) who pull strings to get their kids in first class regardless.

 

[UP4014]

The difference from Y to J domestically is about $10-$15 dollars so it's hardly heart breaking if you don't get the upgrade. J class travel is available to all staff domestically, internationally after 7 years of service and First is for Captains only.

You don't need to be a Captain for first, but 20 years service also get's you up front.

 

[david870mdg]

There are a few misperceptions here.


In terms of FF & commercial travel, commercial passengers should take precedence. The worst offenders are tech crew (pilots) who pull strings to get their kids in first class regardless.

+1

What kind of airline or any business on that note puts its "most valued" revenue base (in the airlines case premium and frequent / high yield passengers) behind their staff and for what reasons?
Mind you QF doesnt have the best rep for looking after its loyal flyers.

 

[ldelaney]

Its unlimited travel afer 6 months of work not 10 years