Qantas surveying members about spend-based status attainment

[andye]

I always thought that from an airline's perspective, the FF programme should be there to drive incremental spend (in air and on ground) rather than just a proportionate reward for spending.

I'd expect that the majority of people flying expensive flex domestic fares have minimal input into who they fly with.

Whereas the moderate/low fare flyer might be prepared to spend a bit more to achieve a status level (and hence be more likely to engage in credit cards/other partners too) if they can make it work.

Cash is not unimportant too though. There are quite a few people who claim to be QF loyalists when they fly their biennial Y trip. This is like expecting a partner to be grateful just because you don't sleep with anyone else, but never pay them a compliment or take them to dinner

 

[MEL_Traveller]

If you are prepared to pay $10k to fly J internationally, you likely wouldn't need to fly budget airlines like VA or JQ domestically unless going somewhere where VA is the only carrier i.e. Christmas Island. QF domestic whY sale fares are regularly available and the QF flights tend to be more frequent.

You’re making an assumption here, perhaps based on your own travel preferences. Plenty of people will fork out for business class internationally, but can’t justify the expense domestically.

$10k to LAX gets you 360SCs for the return. You’d need an awful lot of domestic SYD-MELs to get close to 700 to attain gold.

 

[elanshin]

You’re making an assumption here, perhaps based on your own travel preferences. Plenty of people will fork out for business class internationally, but can’t justify the expense domestically.

$10k to LAX gets you 360SCs for the return. You’d need an awful lot of domestic SYD-MELs to get close to 700 to attain gold.

And let's be honest, a qf 737 id not that different to a VA 737 or JQ 320. Its the other factors that see people flying QF.

 

[drron]

There certainly are a few of us who nearly always fly on the cheapest Y fare domestically but will pay for J and sometimes even F on international flights. Every one is different.

 

[Lynda2475]

You’re making an assumption here, perhaps based on your own travel preferences. Plenty of people will fork out for business class internationally, but can’t justify the expense domestically.

Nope, I made no assumption re class flown domestically just budget vs full service carrier. But i maintain if you prefer J long haul you are less likely to fly a budget carrier in whY when a full service whY with meal and luggage is only a few $ more and has many more domestic flights to choose from.

I mentioned BIS (bum in seat) flying that doesn't mean J.

$10k to LAX gets you 360SCs for the return. You’d need an awful lot of domestic SYD-MELs to get close to 700 to attain gold.

Yes which is why status should be based on BIS (bum-in-seat) flying and not gifted to someone who only does one syd-lax return a year.

You also conveniently ignore that you can reduce significantly via DSC and also using green tier and loyalty bonuses.

When I did SYD- MEL every other week for work, I made sure I did my personal domestic and personal International flying with QF or another One World partner again making status quicker than relying on SYD-MEL alone.

I rarely fly J domestically.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

You can have loyalty on a one-off flight by choosing QF instead of UA or DL.

Not everyone is across the DSCs!

 

[Lynda2475]

LOL a one off cannot by definition be a case of showing loyalty.

Loyalty requires repeat business. If you chose QF over UA or DL that is a choice. If you travel frequently and always preference QF/OW over others then that is loyalty.

 

[drron]

Well I nearly got BA gold on an F fare on the old BKK fare. I ended up just 60TPs short on a spend of- $8500.
Yet Mrsdrron didn’t qualify for WP with 2 such trips crediting to QFF.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

LOL a one off cannot by definition be a case of showing loyalty.

Loyalty requires repeat business. If you chose QF over UA or DL that is a choice. If you travel frequently and always preference QF/OW over others then that is loyalty.

Buy definition loyalty is a state of mind. It's your feeling or allegiance towards something.

A one-off trip, or your annual trip year on year only flying Qantas can be expressions of loyalty.

People were loyal to ford or Holden but they didn't have to buy a car every week!

Agree that a one off may not be the definition of a frequent flyer! Which of course is the name of many of these programs.