Qantas to Launch SYD-AKL-JFK (June 2023)

I decided to bite the bullet and book a J fare on the Points Plane on the 16th, but just from AKL to save on points. I have family in Auckland so might go over a couple of days earlier and catch up with them. And with ex-LAX award availability still good, booked a direct SYD return a week later. Locks something in for next Northern Summer, but a lot of flexibility of what to do in the USA.

Having seen how much fun the FCO Points Plane was, the temptation was too much to resist.
 
I remember that with QF25/26 yeah. Absolute pain. Interestingly some D/I fares available, but not significantly cheaper than NZ in all honesty at this stage

Looks like 10980 NZD for the 90 day adv purchase I fare on the direct route … compared with 8760NZD for AKL-SYD-LAX/DF—NYC

quite a significantly premium and higher than the NZ lead in J business fare I believe
When QF25 was B747 MEL-AKL-LAX was my favourite flight to NZ. Left at at a reasonable time and could get upgrade (compared to now were less QF ff points and available on the cheapest fares)
Fascinating, very interesting alternative to restarting LAX-JFK. I wonder what connections this opens up for PER (etc) based travellers instead of DOM>INT transfer in MEL, SYD or BNE.

Did QF ever fly PER-AKL non stop?
Air NZ did/does. The kiwi miner's FIFO flight

Interesting route. AKL-JFK is about 1000 miles less than SYD-JFK. Coming back is against the prevailing head winds
A map from Great Circle Mapper - Great Circle Mapper
Airside transit in AKL is better for those from BNE, MEL, ADL who now endure the T3 Domestic<--->T1 International shuffle
QF close partner, AA have a planned DFW-AKL flight due to start 29 Oct 2022 to 25 Mar 2023(new route)

Looks like QF flights to ORD off the radar.
 
I just added this flight to a OWE in place of LAX-MEL. I'm on first flight JFK-SYD. There was no U availability JFK-AKL to let me bypass Sydney with a direct flight to MEL.

AA flagship lounge not as good as LAX F lounge but it should be fun to try the flight.
 
Assuming/guessing the AKL-JFK sector is probably operated by the New Zealand based Jetconnect crew?

I fully expect this to be the case. Qantas is already using (cheaper) Jetconnect crew exclusively on BNE-LAX and MEL-DEL, and those routes don't even touch New Zealand!

The SYD-AKL sector of that flight will probably also be crewed by Jetconnect.
 
My guess is it's a temporary married segment / fifth freedom issue.

I thought Oz/NZ had an openskies agreement - so no fifth freedom issues? Early days so I should imagine married segments may be.

Regards,

BD
 
Oh yeah of course, but one can dream for a full first lounge in Auckland. I suppose QF needs to fly their A380s there first...

I can't see Qantas flying First Class to AKL any time in the future, so no real need for an F lounge there (other than to keep WPs happy, obviously).

All of the ports where Qantas operates F lounges these days (except AKL where the current F lounge is more of a leftover from a bygone era) do actually have F service.
 
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