Qantas to move to new Perth Airport terminal, expand Perth hub

[PERLHR]

Qantas own their current terminal don't they? what will be the $$$ exchanged.

I had thought that the land that it sits on at least belongs to Perth Airport Pty?

 

[wandering_fred]

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The train is useless to the Qantas terminal with a bus ride after. That must have been WA gov revenge. Also at Q you have 6minutes to drop off and collect people, you have to move very fast, chuck in luggage and passengers (encourages speeding). If its busy and you can't get through the barriers in 6 minutes its $10 thanks very much.

I am waiting for someone with a disability sticker on their car to sue the airport authority for the 6 minute limit.
With a wheelchair etc 15 minutes may not be enough
Even without wandering
Fred

 

[Franky]

I am waiting for someone with a disability sticker on their car to sue the airport authority for the 6 minute limit.
With a wheelchair etc 15 minutes may not be enough
Even without wandering
Fred

I always go to the short term parking area, which is roughly in the middle of the terminal, and you have free entry for 10 minutes to drop off a passenger with no hassle. You pick up a card from a machine at the entry, where your car plate is recorded, and then use the same card on exiting.

 

[oz_mark]

Not at the Virgin terminal yet. I nearly got caught as pedestrians were ignoring the crossing lights so I couldn't proceed without wiping out a few.
Qantas own their current terminal don't they? what will be the $$$ exchanged.

It is leased by Qantas and was sold back to the airport. It was one of the various commercial matters that were resolved during all the negotiations.

 

[Doctore1003]

Noticed that the Qantas route map has both Perth-Johannesburg and Perth-Auckland launching in "mid-2025" ... good signs!

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So this has been scrubbed from the route map Is that due to aircraft delays? Are they still likely to launch these routes this year?

 

[RB001]

So this has been scrubbed from the route map Is that due to aircraft delays? Are they still likely to launch these routes this year?

Consider that the route map shows the seasonal Sapporo service that starts in December this year - I don't like your chances of anything new ex PER.

 

[AIRwin]

So this has been scrubbed from the route map Is that due to aircraft delays? Are they still likely to launch these routes this year?

Not enough A330 given the suspension of DEL?

 

[markis10]

Qantas own their current terminal don't they? what will be the $$$ exchanged.

No, it was sold 5 years ago

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Not enough A330 given the suspension of DEL?

Per-NZ very doable on A321XLR, with 3000km to spare

 

[jpp42]

I had thought that the land that it sits on at least belongs to Perth Airport Pty?

The underlying fee simple owner of the land is the Commonwealth of Australia, who owns most major airports nationwide.

The Commonwealth have entered into a 99-year lease with Perth Airport Pty Ltd which began on 1 July 1997 and therefore has about 72 years left. For most practical purposes, Perth Airport, and the other airport lease holders, act similarly to a landowner, when it comes to managing improvements like terminals etc. But the lease does reserve certain powers to the Commonwealth - in particular the Commonwealth Airports Act 1996 which requires a Master Plan to be submitted to the Minister for Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Development for approval every five years.

Many smaller airports started out as Commonwealth assets and are now owned by local councils although there some notable exceptions. Avalon was completely sold, not leased, to Linfox and Wellcamp-Toowoomba has been in private ownership from the start. The joint civilian/ADF airports are another category that seems to vary a bit (i.e. Darwin is managed under the Commonwealth Airports Act but Williamtown/Newcastle is not).

 

[jase05]

Per-NZ very doable on A321XLR, with 3000km to spare

The biggest complaint of VA’s CNS-HND was that 7hrs in a rubbish narrow body is hell yet PER-AKL in a rubbish narrow body that will be close to 7hrs is fine

 

[wandering_fred]

PER-BKK in an A320neo would be a good comparison. J* has that route now.
Maybe QF would have better seats?
Perhaps pushing the wandering
Fred

 

[hutch]

The biggest complaint of VA’s CNS-HND was that 7hrs in a rubbish narrow body is hell yet PER-AKL in a rubbish narrow body that will be close to 7hrs is fine

Don't really need to mention what happened to CNS-HND...

I gather, if QF doesn't role out an international configured A321, there will be similar complaints.

 

[jpp42]

Don't really need to mention what happened to CNS-HND...

I gather, if QF doesn't role out an international configured A321, there will be similar complaints.

Do note that A32x do have wider seats than 737's, 18" vs 17". It's enough to make a noticeable different in comfort for some of us. Now that I'm no longer chasing status, I actually prefer Jetstar for this reason on SYD-MEL* and similar routes and would be willing to give a longer A321 route a try. Qantas 787's are only about 17.5" inch wide so actually worse than the A32x. . I've done 757's for transatlantic and they're not brilliant, but really not that much different than any other longhaul flight especially in an aisle seat.

* Note that I refuse to fly MEL-SYD on Jetstar due to the insane madness that is MEL's T4 (for arrivals I can just walk through but departure is a mess.)

 

[justinbrett]

It’s all about the config. JetBlue’s Mint is apparently very good. AA’s A321T isn’t too bad either.

 

[markis10]

Don't really need to mention what happened to CNS-HND...

I gather, if QF doesn't role out an international configured A321, there will be similar complaints.

The A321XLR will be both, the difference being 3 extra seats on the domestic aircraft at the expense of a loo

Do note that A32x do have wider seats than 737's, 18" vs 17". It's enough to make a noticeable different in comfort for some of us. Now that I'm no longer chasing status, I actually prefer Jetstar for this reason on SYD-MEL* and similar routes and would be willing to give a longer A321 route a try. Qantas 787's are only about 17.5" inch wide so actually worse than the A32x. . I've done 757's for transatlantic and they're not brilliant, but really not that much different than any other longhaul flight especially in an aisle seat.

* Note that I refuse to fly MEL-SYD on Jetstar due to the insane madness that is MEL's T4 (for arrivals I can just walk through but departure is a mess.)

The A321xlr has a very generous width and pitch by comparison

• Pitch - 94cm (37in)
• Width - 63.5cm (25in)
• Seat recline - 12.7cm (5in)

 

[oz_mark]

So this has been scrubbed from the route map Is that due to aircraft delays? Are they still likely to launch these routes this year?

Perth - Johannesburg was subject to negotiations with border force. They may not have been able to sort that out.

 

[SYD]

Perth - Johannesburg was subject to negotiations with border force. They may not have been able to sort that out.

Wasn’t that the one PER airport insisted operate from T1? That’s behind them now, surely it’s aircraft (or lack thereof)?

 

[justinbrett]

Wasn’t that the one PER airport insisted operate from T1? That’s behind them now, surely it’s aircraft (or lack thereof)?

Or they didn’t think SA would be back.

PER-CPT would be good instead.

 

[hutch]

The A321XLR will be both, the difference being 3 extra seats on the domestic aircraft at the expense of a loo

The A321xlr has a very generous width and pitch by comparison

• Pitch - 94cm (37in)
• Width - 63.5cm (25in)
• Seat recline - 12.7cm (5in)

I'd be hoping that another difference will be proper international business class seats (and entertainment screens given the length of flights that QF is spruiking).

 

[jase05]

I'd be hoping that another difference will be proper international business class seats (and entertainment screens given the length of flights that QF is spruiking).

Lie flat beds are an absolute non negotiable on a flight length of something like PER-AKL so hopefully that eventuates