Qantas to Westjet at LAX

… in any event it is a very, very short hop between the cities of Vancouver and Alaskan's hub of Seattle
But there’s several flights a day to act as the feeder into the AS network. Along with flights to LAX and DFW.

I’ll be doing a YVR-SEA and onward connection later in the year.
 
I stand corrected and this was announced way back in 2002! That being said, I don't see much coverage regarding the lounge on Youtube or elsewhere which leads me to believe that this was either vaporware or existed for a very limited time, although I could be wrong here too!

-RooFlyer88
 
I stand corrected and this was announced way back in 2002! That being said, I don't see much coverage regarding the lounge on Youtube or elsewhere which leads me to believe that this was either vaporware or existed for a very limited time, although I could be wrong here too!

-RooFlyer88

I think youre right, it didnt last too long and closed way before covid. Im flying out of YVR on AA later this year and with no lounge aiming to minimise airport time.
 
Qantas to destinations that don't have a Qantas lounge
SFO .

QF lounge eligible pax had to use the AF/KLM lounge cough canteen even though there is a CX Marco Polo lounge. WP1 appeared to get access there but not anyone lower because they use the catch all condition of "capacity constraints" to prevent entry
 
SFO .

QF lounge eligible pax had to use the AF/KLM lounge cough canteen even though there is a CX Marco Polo lounge. WP1 appeared to get access there but not anyone lower because they use the catch all condition of "capacity constraints" to prevent entry
WP in J tend to make the cut - well, I’ve had success 2 from 2 times but Precovid. The lounge never got particularly full either.
 
Thanks for the informative posts, guys. We will have ski bags so hoping we can get rid of them at the transfer belt. Otherwise, good to have directions (turn left!) and we'll be up for a walk. If we can get rid of the luggage, we have stacks of time to fill with walking!


After this trip and as we come out of our Covid stupor, you will DHL ski bags in the future!
 
We arrive at LAX on QF11 next week and have a 6-hr transit before a WS flight to YYC. Booked on the same QF ticket, so I understand that the Qantas luggage allowance carries through to the Westjet flight. But I have questions for anyone who's made a similar QF==>WS transfer.

Do we have to haul our luggage to T2 and check it in with WS or do they have a facility to drop it at TB?

What is the easiest way to get from TB to T2, possibly with a heap of luggage?

Keep in mind that whilst going over you get QF/OW luggage entitlements but if your flying back via Westjet into the USA your going to end up with Westjet luggage entitlements regardless of QF or OW status.. and it's literally either 0 or best case 1 free bag.

I did this just last week and coming back with 2 bags - the only reason I wasn't charged for the second bag was my "no problems, I understand it's not your ruling how much will it be?" attitude with agent kindness and her then putting through an exception based on my plat status (although which she stated ultimately meant nothing to Westjet).
 
Keep in mind that whilst going over you get QF/OW luggage entitlements but if your flying back via Westjet into the USA your going to end up with Westjet luggage entitlements regardless of QF or OW status.. and it's literally either 0 or best case 1 free bag.

I did this just last week and coming back with 2 bags - the only reason I wasn't charged for the second bag was my "no problems, I understand it's not your ruling how much will it be?" attitude with agent kindness and her then putting through an exception based on my plat status (although which she stated ultimately meant nothing to Westjet).
My understanding is that IATA sets rules that state that for checked baggage involving multiple carriers the rules of the most significant carrier apply for the remainder of the itinerary (which in this case would be the segment from LA to Sydney since it crosses IATA zones). Indeed the Consumer Transportation Agency of Canada confirms this is the case, and as the regulator of air transport in Canada would have final say:

Remember you aren't buying two tickets Vancouver to LA and LA to Sydney. It's one ticket that just so happens to connect through LA. Keep in mind too that departing Canada by definition all rules and regulations of IATA and ICAO have to be followed by them. Why? Because both organizations are based in Montreal. It would be very foolish to host an agency like them yet not follow their rules. Indeed, some airports in Canada are implementing the bleeding edge IATA rules (such as the One Stop Security IATA annex that make international to domestic transfer dead simple).

-RooFlyer88
 
My understanding is that IATA sets rules that state that for checked baggage involving multiple carriers the rules of the most significant carrier apply for the remainder of the itinerary (which in this case would be the segment from LA to Sydney since it crosses IATA zones). Indeed the Consumer Transportation Agency of Canada confirms this is the case, and as the regulator of air transport in Canada would have final say:

Remember you aren't buying two tickets Vancouver to LA and LA to Sydney. It's one ticket that just so happens to connect through LA. Keep in mind too that departing Canada by definition all rules and regulations of IATA and ICAO have to be followed by them. Why? Because both organizations are based in Montreal. It would be very foolish to host an agency like them yet not follow their rules. Indeed, some airports in Canada are implementing the bleeding edge IATA rules (such as the One Stop Security IATA annex that make international to domestic transfer dead simple).

-RooFlyer88
Perhaps the baggage "rules" have changed since that article was posted/archived - at least what Westjet are following anyway or there systems just don't take it into consideration. I was on a Westjet from Toronto through to LAX then LAX through to MEL booked through QF.

Baggage was tagged all the way through to MEL, but baggage rules were considered to be Westjet carriers as they were the operating carrier with simply a code share agreement.

Everyone is welcome to make the argument at check in (as I very politely did) however the agent will go by what's showing on there system and there was zero consideration as to QF or OW with 1 checked bag only allowed (dependent on booking fare/class as some get 0).
 
Perhaps the baggage "rules" have changed since that article was posted/archived - at least what Westjet are following anyway or there systems just don't take it into consideration. I was on a Westjet from Toronto through to LAX then LAX through to MEL booked through QF.

Baggage was tagged all the way through to MEL, but baggage rules were considered to be Westjet carriers as they were the operating carrier with simply a code share agreement.

Everyone is welcome to make the argument at check in (as I very politely did) however the agent will go by what's showing on there system and there was zero consideration as to QF or OW with 1 checked bag only allowed (dependent on booking fare/class as some get 0).
If that is the case then you could always pay for the luggage then dispute it later either with the airline (for violating IATA regulations) or the credit card company (for not providing a service)
 
Off Topic, but IATA 302 in relation to interline baggage has different rules for Canada and USA when compared to those for the remainder of the world.

In the current environment, a single set of baggage provisions applies to an entire itinerary. The provisions that will apply are either selected following regulations, following the industry default selection provisions (IATA Resolution 302), or are selected by bilateral agreement. The main standard processes that currently determine the application of baggage provisions for interline journeys are:
  • • IATA Resolution 302 determining which rules to apply in an interline journey, for each checked portion and defining the concept of the Most Significant Carrier (MSC).
  • • US Rule for travel originating in or with the destination to either USA (U.S. DOT Regulation 399.87) or Canada (CTA Order 2014-A-158). The Governments of these nations require that a different concept applies. This concept states that the provisions of the Marketing Airline on the first coupon of the overall ticket shall apply to all flights on that ticket.
All you ever wanted to know is here:
 
Off Topic, but IATA 302 in relation to interline baggage has different rules for Canada and USA when compared to those for the remainder of the world.


All you ever wanted to know is here:
Very interesting rule with respect to North America, and somewhat surprising that Canada (where IATA/ICAO is headquartered) would buck the international trend in this regard. That being said, the terms say the marketing carrier on the first segment meaning if the WS flight is marketed as QF, then QF rules would still apply. So the only real risk would be if it ends up being booked as a WS flight. The other question to consider is what does the term first coupon mean? For instance if your itinerary is SYD > LAX (QF) > YVR (WS) > LAX (WS) > SYD (QF), would QF rules apply since they were the first coupon in the ticket (i.e. SYD > LAX)? Or does an overall ticket refer to the two trips booked as part of a roundtrip itinerary (Ticket 1: SYD > YVR, Ticket 2: YVR > SYD). If the latter, this would suggest that for the return segment is the flight was marketed by WS, WS baggage rules would apply for both the YVR > LAX and LAX > SYD trips (yikes!)

-RooFlyer88
 
My understanding is that IATA sets rules that state that for checked baggage involving multiple carriers the rules of the most significant carrier apply for the remainder of the itinerary (which in this case would be the segment from LA to Sydney since it crosses IATA zones). Indeed the Consumer Transportation Agency of Canada confirms this is the case, and as the regulator of air transport in Canada would have final say:

Remember you aren't buying two tickets Vancouver to LA and LA to Sydney. It's one ticket that just so happens to connect through LA. Keep in mind too that departing Canada by definition all rules and regulations of IATA and ICAO have to be followed by them. Why? Because both organizations are based in Montreal. It would be very foolish to host an agency like them yet not follow their rules. Indeed, some airports in Canada are implementing the bleeding edge IATA rules (such as the One Stop Security IATA annex that make international to domestic transfer dead simple).

-RooFlyer88

In any case, it's only the base allowance of the most significant carrier on the ticket that applies to all carriers

Extra entitlement for status is NOT required to be honoured by other carriers. It quite clearly says that in the T&Cs. In the case of alliances, it's generally coordinated for this reason.
 
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In any case, it's only the base allowance of the most significant carrier on the ticket that applies to all carriers

Extra entitlement for status is NOT required to be honoured by other carriers. It quite clearly says that in the T&Cs. In the case of alliances, it's generally coordinated for this reason.
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For those following along, I've confirmed with Qantas that @roslynm should have been given lounge access at LAX.

 
I have a QF CR ticket SEA-YYC ticketed as WS3613.
QF WP, do you agree that I ”should” have lounge access as per below, even tho WS is a OW connect, not a ‘partner’. (4 hour lay over)

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