Qantas Wine Issues

[Vic]

I absolutely agree. I am pretty sure Qantas has it as I don't have to enter in when updating my international travel details. Why they would pass this info to a wine retailer is A HUGE FAIL. I certainly never gave my DOB to QW so how did they get it if not from Qantas. And why do they need my DOB anyway.

You do realise your login to Qantas wine is the same as your frequent flyer login?
You do realise that Qantas wine is owned by Qantas?
Again what makes you think they pass on the information?

 

[Rug]

You do realise your login to Qantas wine is the same as your frequent flyer login?
You do realise that Qantas wine is owned by Qantas?
Again what makes you think they pass on the information?

I think it is fair to be sceptical about companies selling your data. There has been plenty in the media about this. I have a silent number and yet I still get unsolicited calls. Also we had Grays giving info to Noble Oak. Everyone has the right to their data and privacy.

 

[Vic]

I think it is fair to be sceptical about companies selling your data. There has been plenty in the media about this. I have a silent number and yet I still get unsolicited calls. Also we had Grays giving info to Noble Oak. Everyone has the right to their data and privacy.

Well sure in general I agree.
However, that's not what is happening here. They need to confirm you're older than 18 for liquor licensing, or if they are ID'ing you they already have that information in front of them. So you're not protecting privacy by not giving them info they already have.

the time to protect your privacy by withholding info, is when a business rings you and asks you to verify your ID. that's classic scam.

As for Grays, I don't know the details, but it sounds like reading their privacy policy might have prevented this happening. Since the privacy policy should state if they're going to share the data. There is only one person to blame if agreeing to a privacy policy without reading it.

 

[Rug]

Well sure in general I agree.
However, that's not what is happening here. They need to confirm you're older than 18 for liquor licensing, or if they are ID'ing you they already have that information in front of them. So you're not protecting privacy by not giving them info they already have.

the time to protect your privacy by withholding info, is when a business rings you and asks you to verify your ID. that's classic scam.

As for Grays, I don't know the details, but it sounds like reading their privacy policy might have prevented this happening. Since the privacy policy should state if they're going to share the data. There is only one person to blame if agreeing to a privacy policy without reading it.

Are you a lawyer? Many places sell data even if you possibly understand a privacy statement or a product disclosure statement. I was asked to sign that I read a privacy statement for a medical exam and about how my records would be stored. I refused as it was not provided but they wanted me to sign anyway and it was only on their website. The exam went ahead anyway. I did not sign. No explanations as to my data. My point is you can try as hard as you want but you can still be exploited.

 

[Vic]

Are you a lawyer? Many places sell data even if you possibly understand a privacy statement or a product disclosure statement. I was asked to sign that I read a privacy statement for a medical exam and about how my records would be stored. I refused as it was not provided but they wanted me to sign anyway and it was only on their website. The exam went ahead anyway. I did not sign. No explanations as to my data. My point is you can try as hard as you want but you can still be exploited.

Nope, not a lawyer at all.

I'm just saying the privacy statement will should say if they're going to send your data to third parties. If you accept then you're accepting that your data will go to third parties. so in the case of Grays, assuming they said they'd sell the data, using the service means there was acceptance the data would be sold. Similarly for Qantas wine. So when you've already purchase from qantas wine and accepted the privacy policy, it's too late to kick up a stink about being asked your DOB to confirm your 18 or older.

Medical records are a whole different kettle of fish.

 

[TheRealTMA]

Nope, not a lawyer at all.

I'm just saying the privacy statement will should say if they're going to send your data to third parties. If you accept then you're accepting that your data will go to third parties. so in the case of Grays, assuming they said they'd sell the data, using the service means there was acceptance the data would be sold. Similarly for Qantas wine. So when you've already purchase from qantas wine and accepted the privacy policy, it's too late to kick up a stink about being asked your DOB to confirm your 18 or older.

Medical records are a whole different kettle of fish.

Have you seen how much personal data Facebook steals from you? Or for that matter the number of data gouging adds, bots and apps that are attached to the AFF forum software?

Having to state your age is so trivial as to be irrelevant.

If one uses the internet and various web sites or forums, you personal data is long gone to turn “you“ into the money making product. Should be a law against it as Tim Burners has been saying, but govt and tech companies will scream if you try that.

 

[Vic]

Have you seen how much personal data Facebook steals from you? Or for that matter the number of data gouging adds, bots and apps that are attached to the AFF forum software?

Having to state your age is so trivial as to be irrelevant.

If one uses the internet and various web sites or forums, you personal data is long gone to turn “you“ into the money making product. Should be a law against it as Tim Burners has been saying, but govt and tech companies will scream if you try that.

Yeah, exactly. Having to state your age is trivially irrelevant, especially when it is just to match to information showing on a screen.

As for facebook, I'm amazed by the people in my friends list who do the clickbait, play things like OMG and nametests and then wonder how the account got hacked. BEst of all share those scam "competitiions" without checking for the blue tick, and no matter how many times I tell them to checkf or the blue tick - the next scam competition comes up.

Anyway, confirming DOB for Qantas wine is not a major problem IMO.

 

[wandering_fred]

don't you have to provide DOB as part of the passport information if you are flying international.
At the moment, not that international is open for anyone to be wandering....
Fred