QF Yanking 787s back from JQ

[ajca]

Hmmmm just had a nasty thought, what if this potentially meant a switcheroo - 787s to QF and future A380s to JQ:!:

Imagine flying to London in a JQ A380 with 600 other pax, stopping in Darwin, Singapore and somewhere in Kazakhstan, ending up at some coughpy airport 200km from central London. I reckon a third of those on board wouldn't survive the trip!

 

[ajca]

Fingers crossed - I agree Ben seams against the way Qantas is being run and its direction not Qantas itself.

Surprisingly, Ben doesn't talk much about his Harvard MBA, his PhD in aeronautical engineering, and his many years of experience being CEO of a major international airline. But I can assure you he is highly qualified to tell others how to run multi-billion dollar global businesses, navigate highly complex industrial relations situations, and design cutting edge jet aircraft. The guy is really amazing.

 

[straitman]

Surprisingly, Ben doesn't talk much about his Harvard MBA, his PhD in aeronautical engineering, and his many years of experience being CEO of a major international airline. But I can assure you he is highly qualified to tell others how to run multi-billion dollar global businesses, navigate highly complex industrial relations situations, and design cutting edge jet aircraft. The guy is really amazing.

You forgot the smilies.

 

[yohy?!]

Surprisingly, Ben doesn't talk much about his Harvard MBA, his PhD in aeronautical engineering, and his many years of experience being CEO of a major international airline. But I can assure you he is highly qualified to tell others how to run multi-billion dollar global businesses, navigate highly complex industrial relations situations, and design cutting edge jet aircraft. The guy is really amazing.

Very interesting, do you have any web sources on his previous ventures? I've always been bemused when people on here write off his blog as it seems quite articulate and insightful.

 

[Pleb Status]

If true this is great news, potentially a game changer - I'd certainly be happy to see a 787 on HKG-SYD for the late night departure over 333s. Also perhaps a reversal in the trend of asset transfers to JQ and recognising that QF is the valuable brand in the group...

QF will most likely fitout the 787 as 3-3-3 in Y, so you can keep it and I will go in the 332/333 with the far more comfortable 2-4-2 in Y with wider seats. Seat pitch will not be any better than the 330 either. I can see the dreaded 2-3-2 for Dom J also.

At this stage, I would select a newly fitted out 777 (9Y) or 330 (8Y) over a 787 (9Y). Even a renovated 767 (7Y) would be more appealing.

 

[pauly7]

I agree - a credit to the engineers who designed them. I wonder how many A330's will be airworthy and flying in say 2032?

Hahha yea.

I love the 767s. Give me a 30 year old 767 over a 1 year old 737 anyday.

I see Jetstar have come out and refuted the article already.

 

[elbarto]

I see Jetstar have come out and refuted the article already.

The internal memo must not have gotten round to them yet.

 

[vitagen]

I was shocked to see the clunker that took Ozmille and myself from Syd to Mel had this....

 

[serfty]

I was shocked to see the clunker that took Ozmille and myself from Syd to Mel had this....

It's only a clunker if Airshow/Skyshow is not working ... ...

 

[lovestotravel]

Hilarious

"A Jetstar spokesman insists his airline will put the Dreamliner in service before Qantas, and says it doesn’t need to do any work in preparation for the 787 a year before it is due in service."

No work at all huh ?

Where are those pilots going to be based..............

 

[vitagen]

It's only a clunker if Airshow/Skyshow is not working ... ...

With the really bad PQ it might as well not be! But to give it some credit, the seats were comfortable.

I'm guessing her name would be Old Faithful

 

[Justchecking]

Surprisingly, Ben doesn't talk much about his Harvard MBA, his PhD in aeronautical engineering, and his many years of experience being CEO of a major international airline. But I can assure you he is highly qualified to tell others how to run multi-billion dollar global businesses, navigate highly complex industrial relations situations, and design cutting edge jet aircraft. The guy is really amazing.

Because becoming an internet blogger is the natural career progression. I mean where else do you go after hanging up your CEO hat? Apparently the ABC don't know about his career background either because they claim....

Ben Sandilands has been a reporter for more than 49 years,at home and abroad and divided between Fairfax publications and the ABC and in recent times as a freelance writer, broadcaster,Crikey contributor and the author of its blog, Plane Talking.
He became the last full time shipping cadet on The Sydney Morning Herald at the start of his career, and has closely followed transport issues, mainly in the airline sector ever since the last streamers broke on the great ocean liners.

 

[samh004]

Hmmmm just had a nasty thought, what if this potentially meant a switcheroo - 787s to QF and future A380s to JQ:!:

I think AF is doing a wonderful job of showing how not to please your customers by cramming as many of them into an A380 as possible that JQ wont feel the need to beat them.

 

[yohy?!]

Because becoming an internet blogger is the natural career progression. I mean where else do you go after hanging up your CEO hat? Apparently the ABC don't know about his career background either because they claim....

Ben Sandilands has been a reporter for more than 49 years,at home and abroad and divided between Fairfax publications and the ABC and in recent times as a freelance writer, broadcaster,Crikey contributor and the author of its blog, Plane Talking.
He became the last full time shipping cadet on The Sydney Morning Herald at the start of his career, and has closely followed transport issues, mainly in the airline sector ever since the last streamers broke on the great ocean liners.

I would think he's likely retired given he's been a reporter since 1960 from the Plane Talking bio so would probably be 70 if not older.

 

[yohy?!]

I think AF is doing a wonderful job of showing how not to please your customers by cramming as many of them into an A380 as possible that JQ wont feel the need to beat them.

Pray that one is true! They'll probably Try and poach the product manager from AF who came up with the layout

 

[Oneworldplus2]

I can only dream. Those tired old 767's need to go.

+1
We can all dream drewbles.
The 767's (as discussed numerous times on AFF), are really showing their age.

 

[david-au-2000]

Very interesting, do you have any web sources on his previous ventures? I've always been bemused when people on here write off his blog as it seems quite articulate and insightful.

I suspect that's a slab of sarcasm from ajca!

 

[yohy?!]

I suspect that's a slab of sarcasm from ajca!

Lol I walked into that one - the point remains though, if anyone has anything that discredits the blog author or demonstrates his credentials that would be useful to know....

 

[david-au-2000]

Yeah, Ben might be the cranky voice of Australian aviation and given to a few too many rants and fanning of rumours IMHO, but FWIW he does know his stuff. One things for sure, anybody on a public tour of Boeing's 787 factory would be able to see the line and spot any 787s with Qantas livery, lets hope someone does that and tweets a photo or whacks it on Facebook!

 

[eastwest101]

Stating the obvious I know but with the split of Qantas into QFi and QFd it dosen't seem clear what the allocation of aircraft will be (and how it would be implemented) and where that leaves JQ. Are all fleet numbers and types up for grabs at the moment?

A380's - QFi
B747's - QFi (with current refit & retirement plan)
A332's - JQ and QFd? (May try to stick us with 2-3-2 J class on the sly)
A333's - QFi ? (also may try to stick J with 2-3-2 J layout?)
B787's - QFi or JQ? Or both? (Maybe too much airplane for QFd in my opinion - even for SYD-PER.)
B767's - QFd (accelerated or delayed retirement?)
B738's - mostly QFd? (with some NZ Jetconnect)
A320's - JQd ?
B734's - QFd (accel. or delayed retirement?)
B717's Dash 8's & F100's all stay with QF Link I assume.