QF9 / QF10 Perth

[Quickstatus]

Depends where you sit. Living in PER, the LHR has been upgraded.

Yes but the overall ex AU service to LHR has been significantly downgraded.

 

[Himeno]

Are they still leasing 2 to BA?

I haven't seen/found anything to suggest that QF sold those slots. Unless something is found to say they were sold, it's only reasonable to assume that they are still leased to BA.

In order to use them, QF would only have to give BA enough notice that they want them back, likely at least 1 IATA scheduling season.

 

[jrfsp]

Yes but the overall ex AU service to LHR has been significantly downgraded.

At least FCO and CDG will provide additional European capacity, arguably better than more capacity into LHR.

 

[downgraded]

Why? Because you can't use the international terminal in MEL?

No, because you're likely to start/end your trip on a 737 if going on QF9/10.

Though actually the problem with Sydney Airways is that you're likely to start/end your trip on a 737 quite often anyway.

 

[Himeno]

No, because you're likely to start/end your trip on a 737 if going on QF9/10.

Though actually the problem with Sydney Airways is that you're likely to start/end your trip on a 737 quite often anyway.

I haven't been on QF 737 since Oct 2019. Far more likely that I'll end up on a 717, Dash 8 or A220 for the start/end of a trip.

 

[Kefci2000]

Going to Rome late August and flying QF9 as the PER-FCO flights stop the week before - Doh! Adds about 5 hours to our trip flying into LHR T3, transfer to T5 and then back to FCO on BA
Really hoping for an upgrade as it a long flight in Y

 

[RichardMEL]

Slots aside, this really is a function of aircraft availability too. QF just don't have the shells and/or feel there are better uses for them - such as JFK, CDG etc

And no doubt if/when sunrise happens, those LHR slots will come back from BA in a couple of years for the A350 flights.

We could then, in due course, see the 380 leave LHR and have 350s from SYD and MEL. Possibly with PER also staying.

 

[Daver6]

And no doubt if/when sinrise happens, those LHR slots will come back from BA in a couple of years for the A350 flights.

Freudian slip?

 

[AIRwin]

Slits aside

Freudian slit?

 

[RichardMEL]

OK I should not type on my phone.

 

[Franky]

OK I should not type on my phone.

You're not alone...

 

[Cloud9]

Yes but the overall ex AU service to LHR has been significantly downgraded.

Only sporadically. Increasingly, QF1/2 can't make it into the air... so that could be considered an upgrade. (Esp if you are rebooked onto a BA flight in J or F)

 

[RSVKanga]

The flights ex Perth should always have been stand alone, as they appear to have become.

It’s not QF’s fault. At the time in 2017, they were forced to fly MEL-PER-LHR instead of just PER-LHR because Australian airlines are currently restricted to only 2 slots in London. This issue was brought up by the Prime Minister late last year in Parliament.

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QF have two other slots that are leased to BA, and with the axing of MEL-PER, I’d expect that those BA leases will expire within the next two years which is why QF have likely decided to sacrifice MEL-PER to fly to Paris, and await new A350s to fly nonstop MEL-LHR while retaining their ‘use it or lose it’ current active slots at LHR by keeping PER—LHR as a standalone.

 

[Quickstatus]

It’s not QF’s fault.

Yeah nah. Instead of 4 slots which they used to use for 4x747-400 (approx 1400 seats) , they leased 2 to BA. Then with the 2 left they used 2xA380 (approx 970 seats) . Now it's 1xA380 + 1x787 (approx 720 seats) while scrapping 2xA380

So not only has the airline reduced seat count by half, it is flying only one from the east coast.

Then when the A380 gets replaced by the A350 reduce 720 seats by approx 240 seats unless the airline gets back the other slots from BA

 

[jb747]

There was once a fifth slot.... Guess they sold that.

 

[Digicola]

Lets not forget that connecting PER to LHR means nonstop flights for mining execs shuttling between operations in WA and HQ in the UK. This segment has very very deep pockets and QF must make a very pretty mint selling full flex J. Probably fills up most of the premium cabin everyday….

I think many based in MEL wouldn’t be so fussed if they brought back the A380 to SIN. Considering the smaller fleet I don’t see where QF could fly them other than HKG and SIN so hopefully that brings back a fully premium option for the MEL crowd.

 

[RichardMEL]

There was once a fifth slot.... Guess they sold that.

Being a pair?

 

[lovestotravel]

await new A350s to fly nonstop MEL-LHR

This will likely not be actually happening....

 

[TeaKozy]

This will likely not be actually happening....

Maybe after SYD-LHR, SYD-JFK and SYD-CDG direct.

 

[justinbrett]

Yeah nah. Instead of 4 slots which they used to use for 4x747-400 (approx 1400 seats) , they leased 2 to BA. Then with the 2 left they used 2xA380 (approx 970 seats) . Now it's 1xA380 + 1x787 (approx 720 seats) while scrapping 2xA380

So not only has the airline reduced seat count by half, it is flying only one from the east coast.

Then when the A380 gets replaced by the A350 reduce 720 seats by approx 240 seats unless the airline gets back the other slots from BA

Yes they have 4 slots, 2 leased, and QF have already said they’re taking the slots back to use for sunrise services, which will be additional to the current services ex SIN and PER.