QFF Ideas & Suggestions

[Mal]

Liquor licensing regulations (ie state law) would probably play a very large part in this.

The Brisbane Qantas Clubs and Chairman's Lounge has a very open liquor licence:

05:00 AM to 03:00 AM Monday - Sunday

Qantas has chosen to restrict the availability of alcohol.

 

[JohnK]

A point l have made a few times, is that the QP dress entry standards have slipped significantly over the years.

And I believe the reason for that is society's dress standards have declined considerably over the years.

 

[BOSTON08]

+1... I never wear a suit when flying... BUT... A reasonable standard of attire is expected and appreciated.

Hi there- this is my first post as a new member and I have found it very interesting reading all the posts so far
On the above point- I agree as I am always aware of the dress code and make sure I am at least dressed in smart casual. When I flew out of Perth on Monday morning I noticed the miners in their mining getup ( the navy/fluro combo and work boots). I think that is probably stretching the code, but beach wear and ripped clothing should be a big no no.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Hi there- this is my first post as a new member and I have found it very interesting reading all the posts so far
no.

Welcome to AFF and I completely agree with you and the above AFFers regarding dress standards. It is entirely possible to travel in comfortable clothing without resorting to singlets and thongs. This is something upon which I have continual battles with my offspring. I always prevail by offering them the option of Hungry Jacks in thongs or waiter service at the Flounge with covered shoes and shoulders

 

[bossreggie]

Welcome to AFF and I completely agree with you and the above AFFers regarding dress standards. It is entirely possible to travel in comfortable clothing without resorting to singlets and thongs. This is something upon which I have continual battles with my offspring. I always prevail by offering them the option of Hungry Jacks in thongs or waiter service at the Flounge with covered shoes and shoulders

That's GOLD Princess..... Sadly my "jnr" is now 21 so wears what he wishes. I have banished him to J tomoroow afternoon for our trip to BKK!! (Both lounge and plane... I wonder if that makes me a terrible parent?!?!)

 

[PineappleSkip]

i agree on the dress code, but guiltily as I am sitting in a hotel restaurant in thongs. Is this OK if its CNS and I have a collared shirt. Hmmm now I look around everyone has thongs (both of them) and I have the only collared shirt.

Cheers skip

 

[blackhelicopter]

Shorts, singlet, thongs and a tie for the DRW QP?

 

[Princess Fiona]

Shorts, singlet, thongs and a tie for the DRW QP?

Isn't that Territory Rig ?

 

[dfcatch]

i agree on the dress code, but guiltily as I am sitting in a hotel restaurant in thongs. Is this OK if its CNS and I have a collared shirt. Hmmm now I look around everyone has thongs (both of them) and I have the only collared shirt.

Cheers skip

Guilty!!

CNS QP standard attire for me is collared shirt/polo, cargo shorts and deck shoes. But....sometimes the deck shoes may resemble flip-flops....but never wearing any beach/ripped attire.

I did get some funny looks in SYD F lounge 2 weeks ago after arriving from CNS in the aforementioned attire (deck shoes - not flip flops!).

Not quite as funny as when I stepped into the cab outside the terminal in SYD where the driver immediately sprouted "you from f...$&@@& Queensland mate??!!??"

 

[samh004]

Regarding dress standards, I wore a shirt (not collared) and shorts with closed footwear yesterday and today, though was only in the QP yesterday naturally. I see no issue with that, no holes, nothing ripped.

And incase anyone brings up safety slides, it was a Q400 both times so I was safe.

 

[Oneworldplus2]

Shorts, singlet, thongs and a tie for the DRW QP?

That would look odd, LOL :shock:

I guess that this has been discussed many times over on AFF + FT, it really can be a can of worms, but dress code should have "some" standards, considering QF have a standard to adhere to, which they have set.
I admit, l have worn thongs in the QP/J Lounge, but l was in wearing jeans and collared button up t-shirt, it wasn't "western suburbs bogan style" outfit l had on. What's next if QF let the standards slip, ugg boots and flannels? There has to be a point where QF say, "Na mate, no entry", which l feel is slowly but surely diminishing, sadly.
Another point that often gets over looked is that, l (to me anyways) feel that it should be a privilege to be in the lounge by virtue of frequent travel (SG or WP status or OW status), paid membership (QC) or because you are flying F or J Class. If not, go downstairs and sit with the other pax. That's what the lounge was created for in the first place. I know that sounds harsh, but that's what it means for me.

 

[rtyuiop]

I'm guilty of pushing the QP boundaries fairly often (typically fairly neat shorts, sandals, and a polo shirt) myself.

My question for those who want the dress codes enforced is simple: why? I can see it might be a problem if someone's wearing something likely to get them an indecent exposure record, but what impact does it have on others if someone is wearing (to take a for instance), sandals instead of closed shoes?

Not having a go at anyone, I'm just genuinely curious about why people feel this is a problem!

Danny

 

[Reggie]

I have been reading this thread with interest since it was opened by redroo but this is my first post. From my point of view a lot of what has been requested is what will "enhance" an individuals benefit, but, redroo did ask what would cause us to fly with Qantas more.

First point I have to take up is the dress code for the QP, yes I agree thongs (flip flops) and singlets should be banned from the QP, but why should the clean work uniform of the actual miners and/or mine management (see Twiggy) be banned. This is singling out one group, which give considerable support to QF. I am not on FIFO, but do occasionally fly to PBO and ZNE wearing hi-vis. Banning this apparel from the QP would be at Qantas peril I suspect.

Getting OT, with me being a very loyal QFFer with over 23,000 LTSC's, and some recent years of +4000 SC's, what would make me fly with QF more? At present redroo, I think you should be more concerned with why should I continue being loyal to QF.
I have had 1 opup (KTA to PER) over 5 years ago, but 1 very poorly handled opdown (SYD-PER) about 7 years ago.
I spent 15hours in PER waiting for a delayed flight PER-MEL because you wouldn't move me onto one of the many flights that left in between, even though I was flying on a full J fare.
I have seen benefits eroded, with points worth less, fuel charges, taxes etc on award flights accounting for more that it would cost to fly with a payable fare on your competitors.
I have seen much crowding of the QP as more members attain access levels through QFF and cheap offering from QF for QC membership
I have seen wonderful F lounges in SYD and MEL, and wonderful J Dome lounges in SYD, MEL and BNE, but not much use when I mainly fly out of PER is it.
I can purchase AONE fares from PER, but there are no first class flights from PER.
To fly AKL-PER on QF I have to go via SYD (missed connection several times due to wait times at the INT transfer desk) and MEL which was great, but you have played with the schedule so that this is no longer possible. Yet NZ see the value in AKL to PER flights, which are nearly always full according to NZ flight staff.
So now I am QFLTG, QFWP, QFPG, NZ*Gold and now considering taking a run at status with EK who provide better service connections into Europe than you do.
I missed out on the Status match with Virgin, but have already directed some of my foreign colleagues to Virgin Australia and Virgin Blue, costing you some $14K. When the next status match comes along I to may be gone.

So what can you do to make me fly more with you / or at a minimum not lose me -
Recognise my value and status to you - how do you do that, well, your at the pointy end and have lots of advice on this thread, I'll leave that up to you and your colleagues, but it needs to be good and fast.
Either remove your fuel taxes or include it in the fares and stop ripping me off as a BIS QFFer
Recognise my status as a QFF BIS flyer over a OW flyer crediting to QF.
Status Gifts like NZ give to their high tier FFer's
More access to flight awards in F, J and Y. I fly paid J in the majority, but access award J seats as so few are released.
Provide actual priority boarding not the joke free for all that you currently have.
Train you baggage handlers on what priority means, and then enforce it. Any priority baggage handled by your PER QF handlers is a complete joke, it has been so bad lately, I can't even be bothered to complain to you, as it is obvious there is no concern at all. Many times by baggage has been in the last 10 bags to come out with priority tags on it. I have made feedback comments etc in the past to no avail. However on the positive for you, QF handle NZ baggage in PER, so the priority baggage for them is just as bad.

Enough from me now.

Reggie

 

[Lawlass]

Wow. I had absolutely no idea people were judging me on my attire.

Unless I'm going straight to a meeting from the plane, I travel in comfy clothes. Being a female with absolutely zero interest in fashion, this means quite often trackie daks and I can guarantee that in summer it means shorts, singlet and bare feet.

Why on earth should it matter to you what I'm wearing?

 

[bossreggie]

Wow. I had absolutely no idea people were judging me on my attire.

Unless I'm going straight to a meeting from the plane, I travel in comfy clothes. Being a female with absolutely zero interest in fashion, this means quite often trackie daks and I can guarantee that in summer it means shorts, singlet and bare feet.

Why on earth should it matter to you what I'm wearing?

I can only speak for myself here.

I think it is actually a show of respect. I am also a bit of an individual and I very rarely wear a suit out of work. If leaving right from work, I will hit the F lounge, Grab a shower and can usually be seen in my jeans, a casual shirt and comfortable shoes. To ME that is a manner of dress I deem appropriate.

IMHO I think when entering an airline lounge, club, bar etc.... Smart casual, at least, should be adhered to.

BTW... I would NEVER judge another person based on their attire. I'm not that superficial.

 

[notzac]

My question for those who want the dress codes enforced is simple: why? I can see it might be a problem if someone's wearing something likely to get them an indecent exposure record, but what impact does it have on others if someone is wearing (to take a for instance), sandals instead of closed shoes?

I'll give you a practical reason and then a superficial reason...

First: open-toed shoes, ripped clothes etc. poses a safety issue. What if you drop that glass of wine or beer that you're drinking? (For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not casting aspersions -- merely hypothesising.) Shards of glass + exposed feet = bad. Instead of alcohol and glass, maybe instead a hot meal or a cup of tea/coffee .. equally bad.

To the less practical stuff: if I wanted to be around bogans, I'd be flying Tiger and waiting at the gate lounge. Part of the documentation and all of the advertisement for the Qantas Club suggests a reasonable dress code is required; if I can comply with that, so can everyone else.

*waits for the flames*

 

[Lawlass]

I think it is actually a show of respect.

Respect for whom? Sorry, but I truly don't understand your thinking here. I don't feel any more need to dress up for the QP than I do to go shopping at a shopping centre. I'm the customer; I've paid to feel comfortable. If other customers don't like my (lack of) fashion sense, I really couldn't care less. I'm not smelly or noisy or otherwise offensive. I still don't get why what I wear is of any concern to anyone else.

 

[rani1]

Being a resident of WA flying out of Perth using points is almost impossible for we have a large community of fly in fly outs and particularly in the mornings it is almost impossible to get a seat in the Qantas Lounge even with the new refurbishments

A friend of mine who is also a Platinum QF member last year tried to book a return Business class trip to Paris from Perth and return the cost was quite exorbitant so looked at options and the same trip but booked with Air France rather than Qantas was much cheaper the two of them travelled Perth-Paris-Perth Business for less than one person using a Qantas Business return, the same time the same flights, the same planes but using an Air France Flight booking number rather than a Qantas flight booking number. They queried the price with Qantas and requested a similar cost but were told that the advertised cost could not be discounted, they argued that being Platinum might count for some discount but the person stood firm. They have since returned to Paris 3 times (where they plan on buying an appartment) and all flight have been with Air France. Can Qantas afford to be so arrogant with prices and so disloyal to their frequent flyers?

 

[blackhelicopter]

If I can survive in jeans or cargo pants, a polo shirt and closed comfortable shoes, anyone can.

I don't just do it for looks, I also do it for survivability in an emergency; the reason I'm in the QP or J lounge is that I'm about to board an aircraft and fly somewhere. I bet jeans and leather shoes will serve me a lot better climbing out of an aircraft crash site than shorts and thongs will.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

Unless I'm going straight to a meeting from the plane, I travel in comfy clothes. Being a female with absolutely zero interest in fashion, this means quite often trackie daks and I can guarantee that in summer it means shorts, singlet and bare feet.

Why on earth should it matter to you what I'm wearing?

You go travelling from one city to another by plane with bare feet? :shock:

I totally agree with blackhelicopter... should the worst happen and you are climbing out of a wrecked aircraft the last thing you want to be wearing is thongs or no shoes at all.