Scams like these

[Forg]

As I mentioned upthread, there must be a darkweb tuition course, or teach them how to do it, out there.
Using alphabets as numbers, etc, or making links in sms.

These scammers aren't people sitting in their lounge room in Melton typing super secret letters & numbers into their iPhones ... these are multi-employee call centres based in Manila or somewhere in India with (probably pirated commercial-grade) auto-dialling call-centre software running their operation ... the person you talk to hasn't dialled anything - they're just talking to a target, hanging up, being alerted the next target is on the line & picking up, talking to the next target, hanging up, being alerted the next target is on the line & picking up, etc etc etc.

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

They must go trough some training though, bad as it is.
Grin, maybe the group of call center owners/people in MNL/DEL/LOS(Lagos), have all made sure they employees can convince people who they say they are from.
((You must not use your real name, your name will be Richard James from Amazon Security Team, and your id code is xx_))).
Or how does a person in Africa claim to a business, or have money to set up a Wangiri system.
I certainly wouldn't know how to set up a "private/small scale" Wangiri system.
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Ah, indeed, under the Reliefweb website, it says there are training courses for "there is a substantial number of fradulent training offers".

 

[SOPOOR]

well, im selling a left over rebel gift card that we arent going to use on ebay

had someone with 8years/100+Feedback account, buy it, send me a screenshot with an afterpay recipet, and then say, can you please send me the barcode and pin,

ebay notifications said youve been paid its ok to send

as soon as I sent the barcode I got a barrage of "oh my account was hacked, please cancel the transaction" to "im reporting you to the police"

I declined to cancel transaction, and ive posted the card off based on ebay advice,

I *(*()* hate scammers,

but im wondering if this was a hijacked account or the real owner being a scammer?

i suspect im up for a charge back in a few months time,

 

[prozac]

well, im selling a left over rebel gift card that we arent going to use on ebay

had someone with 8years/100+Feedback account, buy it, send me a screenshot with an afterpay recipet, and then say, can you please send me the barcode and pin,

ebay notifications said youve been paid its ok to send

as soon as I sent the barcode I got a barrage of "oh my account was hacked, please cancel the transaction" to "im reporting you to the police"

I declined to cancel transaction, and ive posted the card off based on ebay advice,

I *(*()* hate scammers,

but im wondering if this was a hijacked account or the real owner being a scammer?

i suspect im up for a charge back in a few months time,

Just remember. People, are no damn good.

 

[JohnK]

well, im selling a left over rebel gift card that we arent going to use on ebay

Just out of interest what sort of return do you expect/get on the remaining value of the gift card?

Also I think these people buying these gift cards play this trick more than once. Ebay should do something about it.

 

[OATEK]

Good day,

I am very sorry I have to reach you through this medium. I am a member of the debt reconvener (debt collection experts) and I am aware of your ordeal about your unpaid fund.

It may interest you to know that not long after the Debt Management Office (DMO) completed the merger and acquisition process of all pending payments occasioned through the petition raised by the international community about their unpaid funds. I discovered that their boss connived with some top officials to divert funds approve to settle unpaid inheritances, email lottery winners, Internet scam victims, unclaimed consignments (concealed funds), and International Contractors.

The DMO has already given the approval to pay your fund but they deliberately withheld your payment file and continue to demand fees from you through their associates from different unassigned affiliates mostly from Africa, the US, Spain, and the Netherlands all in trying to frustrate you into giving up on it so they can finally enrich themselves. I wonder why you haven't noticed all this while.

You may choose to disbelieve this email as inconceivable but my doctrine does not let such an act, the reason I have to open up to you is to seek the right channel. DMO was authorized to release your fund via their asset management firm with claim code numbers, supposedly to have been issued to you.

Upon your response, I shall guide you through and offer you details to contact the assigned affiliate who will immediately ease the release of your fund.

Thanks and have a wonderful day.

Be Safe.
Yours Faithfully,

Admin Staff.
Ref:FGTSA-153/EAP/IP-182/EG026/08026023.

 

[SOPOOR]

Just out of interest what sort of return do you expect/get on the remaining value of the gift card?

Also I think these people buying these gift cards play this trick more than once. Ebay should do something about it.

im an ebay plus member so i have some promotion of fee free for 3 items,

all in all i had 3 sales (of the one item), $200 Gift card
I had them at buy it now as well,
2x scammers was $220, 1 x genuine was $180

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

Good day,

I am very sorry I have to reach you through this medium. I am a member of the debt reconvener (debt collection experts) and I am aware of your ordeal about your unpaid fund.

It may interest you to know that not long after the Debt Management Office (DMO) completed the merger and acquisition process of all pending payments occasioned through the petition raised by the international community about their unpaid funds. I discovered that their boss connived with some top officials to divert funds approve to settle unpaid inheritances, email lottery winners, Internet scam victims, unclaimed consignments (concealed funds), and International Contractors.

The DMO has already given the approval to pay your fund but they deliberately withheld your payment file and continue to demand fees from you through their associates from different unassigned affiliates mostly from Africa, the US, Spain, and the Netherlands all in trying to frustrate you into giving up on it so they can finally enrich themselves. I wonder why you haven't noticed all this while.

You may choose to disbelieve this email as inconceivable but my doctrine does not let such an act, the reason I have to open up to you is to seek the right channel. DMO was authorized to release your fund via their asset management firm with claim code numbers, supposedly to have been issued to you.

Upon your response, I shall guide you through and offer you details to contact the assigned affiliate who will immediately ease the release of your fund.

Thanks and have a wonderful day.

Be Safe.
Yours Faithfully,

Admin Staff.
Ref:FGTSA-153/EAP/IP-182/EG026/08026023.

This one has a neat African trying to sound American English to it.
Does not feel like an Indian way of writing English.
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but im wondering if this was a hijacked account or the real owner being a scammer?

i suspect im up for a charge back in a few months time,

I would say the buyer is the scammer.

 

[SOPOOR]

i must come across as a scammer magnet, but i guess that happens when you try and sell a car

last night, i got a FB message asking to look at my car, we've semi tenatively arranged for saturday lunchtime, ive given him my mobile, and he says he will message in the morning, just having a look at his profile and it seems he lives in the UK, school, friends, (but obviously he could have moved here and not updated), but seems genuine so far

half a day later I get a message from a female who was questioning the mileage on the car, as I had mistakingly put the 11,0000 instead of 110,000, another 1 x message exchanged, and nothing more, upon checking their profile, they too are from the UK,
have a look at her profile, and similar, sporadic updates from the UK. I also see that they are selling a few things, but its all in EURO but some of the things are australian brands

Completely stumped as to whether its a scam

 

[prozac]

i must come across as a scammer magnet, but i guess that happens when you try and sell a car

last night, i got a FB message asking to look at my car, we've semi tenatively arranged for saturday lunchtime, ive given him my mobile, and he says he will message in the morning, just having a look at his profile and it seems he lives in the UK, school, friends, (but obviously he could have moved here and not updated), but seems genuine so far

half a day later I get a message from a female who was questioning the mileage on the car, as I had mistakingly put the 11,0000 instead of 110,000, another 1 x message exchanged, and nothing more, upon checking their profile, they too are from the UK,
have a look at her profile, and similar, sporadic updates from the UK. I also see that they are selling a few things, but its all in EURO but some of the things are australian brands

Completely stumped as to whether its a scam

Last year I tried fb marketplace and the paid site carsales. Had a few scams off fb, one or two on carsales but also alot of car dealers wanting it cheap. In the end I parked the car in front of my home, a quiet street, with a sign in the window. All my mates said I should park it on a main road. 3 genuine enquiries and one buyer in about 30 days.

 

[SOPOOR]

Last year I tried fb marketplae and the paid site carsales. Had a few scams off fb, one or two on carsales but also alot of car dealers wanting it cheap. In the end I parked the car in front of my home, a quiet street, with a sign in the window. All my mates said I should park it on a main road. 3 genuine enquiries and one buyer in about 30 days.

That's a good idea about the sign
I've had other people suggest the sign as well

 

[Lillie Pillie]

When I experience these scam, the first thing I usually do is research the phone number, using apps like reverseaus or tellows-au.com. It's so hard for me to discern whether something is a scam these days, so I rely on other people's opinions and insight to help gauge it's legitimacy.

 

[prozac]

That's a good idea about the sign
I've had other people suggest the sign as well

MrsProzac said "What makes you think you are going to sell it parked out the front?" I replied I wasn't ever going to sell it parked in the garage.
You'd be surprised the people who drive down your street. Service people, tradies, delivery people, all of them potential buyers. And they can stop easily in a quiet street and have a good look.
I used 2 sheets of A4 paper sticky taped to a backing of cardboard box. Just critical info like the year, kms if significantly low, and the phone number in larger font.

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

There was a fellow in SYD, sold his car at a dealer, and even then, someone at the dealership used his data to open Telstra and Optus accounts, and buy multiple iphones, and the gall to sit in a car out the front of the sellers house, to pick up the iphone packages when they arrived.
As we know too, with a lot of the iphone orders, they won't send it a post office box or parcel locker, and has to go to a residential address, and so people do then order, and have the gall to sit in front of the target's house to pick the items up.
Was on the news.com.au website earlier on today.
If car dealerships can be so unscrupulous, what hope have we got for anything.
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Optus is sacking its Adl call centre staff, 150 out of 400 jobs gone, maybe/probably overseas.
Scams are us galore.
They had that data breach, now its going to be easier to scam Aussies, with the masterminds overseas, offices overseas, their scammers overseas...
"""Good Morning Mr Soonbescammed, this is Richards from the Optus Account Team, your account has been overdue..."""

 

[OATEK]

Just to get you to call:

 

[PirLPe]

There was a fellow in SYD, sold his car at a dealer, and even then, someone at the dealership used his data to open Telstra and Optus accounts, and buy multiple iphones, and the gall to sit in a car out the front of the sellers house, to pick up the iphone packages when they arrived.
As we know too, with a lot of the iphone orders, they won't send it a post office box or parcel locker, and has to go to a residential address, and so people do then order, and have the gall to sit in front of the target's house to pick the items up.
Was on the news.com.au website earlier on today.
If car dealerships can be so unscrupulous, what hope have we got for anything.
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Optus is sacking its Adl call centre staff, 150 out of 400 jobs gone, maybe/probably overseas.
Scams are us galore.
They had that data breach, now its going to be easier to scam Aussies, with the masterminds overseas, offices overseas, their scammers overseas...
"""Good Morning Mr Soonbescammed, this is Richards from the Optus Account Team, your account has been overdue..."""

Did the car dealership say they had a data breach? That's for the police to find out. As long as the data was taken from the car dealership, it's the car dealership's fault. It's the car dealership that has to prove that there was a data leak. Well, I don't know much about law, but that's what it looks like.

 

[n7of9]

I recently successfully sold a car on Carsales - in 21 hours and at a great price, i might add.

But before the legitimate buyer, i did have 1 guy offer to buy the car without rego. It had 11 months rego left, but he wanted me to cancel it before selling him the car. I refused and reported him, but can anyone tell me why someone would want that? I assume it's for something illegal, but what?

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

Just to get you to call:

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Poor grammar.
We know, we know... cant say without burning a paw.
We know where a lot of them learn their English.
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I recently successfully sold a car on Carsales - in 21 hours and at a great price, i might add.

But before the legitimate buyer, i did have 1 guy offer to buy the car without rego. It had 11 months rego left, but he wanted me to cancel it before selling him the car. I refused and reported him, but can anyone tell me why someone would want that? I assume it's for something illegal, but what?

Cant be tracked or traced in crimes, and no way to be caught for tolls.
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For Pirple, yep, according to the news article, NSW police got the scammer at yhe car dealo.

 

[Forg]

If car dealerships can be so unscrupulous, what hope have we got for anything.

Heh heh heh heh heh!!

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

We thought bank managers were great, at one time, then we found out not so, and they have KPI to meet. these days they are into sales as much as possible.
We thought priests were great, at one time, then we found out, heh heh indeed.
We thought that cops were great, at one time, then we found them to be corrupt.
We thought the office crush was our best mate, at one time, then turns out some can be back stabbers.
Car dealerships, et al.
Trust your office cleaner mate, we know everything.
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I should leave my incoming voice mail, (((Thanks for calling the ScammersGreatEnglishGrammarSkillsHelpPoint, for English grammar in relation to scam, press 1, for ....))).
Got a missed call from the great city of Melbourne today, didn't answer.
No messages from their side.
Blocked, reported as scam, deleted...
If they improved their English skills, ooh, it would so scary.