Scootoff SYD-BKK $500 odd return

[extracta]

I will take Qantas for $200 more thanks, life is too short.

I agree with you

The QF flight can be booked for only $100 more if booked elsewhere other than the QF site. At the moment can be booked for $615 AUD.

Much better value

 

[extracta]

Yes I have no doubt that if you find a date 3 months away in the middle of a sale on Qantas you will find a price that's close. Actually interested that your price is $702 given the sale price stated on the QF website is $888, where was that price from.

I will back up his price as I just booked a flight Bne - Bkk return on QF for $711 ..

 

[jetlagger]

I will back up his price as I just booked a flight Bne - Bkk return on QF for $711 ..

How did you manage to secure that attractive price?

 

[extracta]

How did you manage to secure that attractive price?

Easily ,,,, the fare was available for most dates between now and November during the latest sale ..... Interestingly a lot of the flights from Sydney to Bkk where on EK metal. QF metal also

 

[jetlagger]

Easily ,,,, the fare was available for most dates between now and November during the latest sale ..... Interestingly a lot of the flights from Sydney to Bkk where on EK metal. QF metal also

On QANTAS dot com?

$888 is the best I see..

 

[extracta]

On QANTAS dot com?

$888 is the best I see..

Yes I know. The fare you see is on Qantas - flights to Australia, New Zealand, Africa and Asia. Book airfares at qantas.com.

There are cheaper places to book the same flights

 

[jetlagger]

Yes I know. The fare you see is on Qantas - flights to Australia, New Zealand, Africa and Asia. Book airfares at qantas.com.

There are cheaper places to book the same flights

Mmm.. I shall seek & find it then! Thanks for the encore..

 

[travelislife]

Jetlagger, I have no idea why extracta doesn't want to say where it can be bought cheaper but the most common place the cheap ones can be found are on Expedia.ie and Expedia.uk.

The planning ahead bit is a big one, looking to book a BKK-MEL-BKK flight last weekend of Feb to first weekend of march with preference for overnight flight out and afternoon back (so qantas and Thai flight times suit perfectly) but nothing around for less than about $1300 in econ. Unfortunately no award seats available on Thai either as could have gone down that route.

 

[jetlagger]

Jetlagger, I have no idea why extracta doesn't want to say where it can be bought cheaper but the most common place the cheap ones can be found are on Expedia.ie and Expedia.uk.

Sure, I also found that quite odd. I'm sure it was no big secret & there is a general usual mode of transparency on this forum.
I did find the fare on expedia.ie, but I shall probably opt for TG, albeit at a higher rate, the timings appear more suited.
This thread is meandering off course.. slightly

 

[ethernet]

QF Sale is over and QF rack price now $1234 - almost the same as flying to USA. Grrr.
Scoot prices up 10% which in % terms is less. Taking a May booking
Departure Fare AUD 143.93 Return Fare AUD 235.05 Fees & Taxes AUD 149.66 . I paid Polci so no $18 CC surcharge for them.
Assume the mutts get $400 , 9.1 hours each way, so they get $22ph bum on seat to pay everything - plane, petrol, ground and profit. I figure $25 ph is the break even point for LCC, and 50% higher for majors - around the expedia special of $750 mark. Given the stopover trick, and the redeye, and my bags out on carosel #1 on arrival, I reckon it is a cheap airfare now.
I never change my plans (which is the sting), so someone else will have to pay more. It is a pity that QF can't or won't mine my data, and take my money, rather than SgCo eat their lunch (again).

Forgot to say the Jetstar prices have crept up a little, and more from Sydney. The JQ sales now seem fewer, and more badly timed.

 

[extracta]

You will possibly find that QF will have more sales as they are now seating people on EK flights out of Sydney to BKK as well.

 

[Alanslegal]

It's almost misleading to suggest that QF will be generally $200 more than TZ.

FWIW I rarely see a $700 SYD to BKK return fare with QF. I have seen it only once earlier in 2012 when I read that one can book with Expedia.ie but to the general flyer John and Jane, it's unlikely they will now that.

And if I travel only hand luggage, don't really need a lounge to visit And when Scoot is on sale, then that $300 return ticket is so much worth it versus over Qantas' fare, and usually a SYD to BKK return is at least over $1k when I look on QF.com

 

[markis10]

It's almost misleading to suggest that QF will be generally $200 more than TZ.

FWIW I rarely see a $700 SYD to BKK return fare with QF. I have seen it only once earlier in 2012 when I read that one can book with Expedia.ie but to the general flyer John and Jane, it's unlikely they will now that.

And if I travel only hand luggage, don't really need a lounge to visit And when Scoot is on sale, then that $300 return ticket is so much worth it versus over Qantas' fare, and usually a SYD to BKK return is at least over $1k when I look on QF.com

Each individual will often have different preferences including how far ahead they want to plan there travel, it's hardly misleading to say you can get QF so cheap when in fact it's been on offer three times this year already with a booking window of only two weeks thought to a window covering until July. By contrast a Scoot return for $300 is misleading, it's not been offered at that level this year, the cheapest being $198+++ each way, and that's not including hotel costs for the misconduct in SIN if your OOL bound.

26th Jan

Promo fares - ex-AU | FlyScoot.com

Now that MH have joined OW there are other options as well, for instance a random booking in two weeks:

Operator Outbound◄Sun 17 Feb► Return◄Sun 24 Feb► Price per adult
Scoot
14:05 SYD – 19:05 BKK
1 stop SIN
33h (+1)


20:05 BKK – 12:55 SYD
1 stop SIN
12h 50 (+1)


Details
£581

Or


Malaysia Airlines
21:55 SYD – 13:30 BKK
1 stop KUL
19h 35 (+1)


19:55 BKK – 19:55 SYD
1 stop KUL
20h (+1)


Details
£612

 

[Alanslegal]

Each individual will often have different preferences including how far ahead they want to plan there travel, it's hardly misleading to say you can get QF so cheap when in fact it's been on offer three times this year already with a booking window of only two weeks thought to a window covering until July. By contrast a Scoot return for $300 is misleading, it's not been offered at that level this year, the cheapest being $198+++ each way, and that's not including hotel costs for the misconduct in SIN if your OOL bound.

Its been offered three times this year? Flying QF for $700 SYD-BKK return????????? I am a frequent traveller to BKK 5 or 6 times in 2012 and have never found going to BKK cheap. I often end up flying via SIN boooking exSIN prices are good value, I can make a reason to visit my sister in SIN.

And for the same dates flying QF dep 17/2 return 24/2 sees Qantas selling seats at $1,314. So you are paying a almost double.

But even if you think I am misleading at $300 at least it's closer to $300, than your view that QF is closer to $700.

 

[markis10]

Its been offered three times this year? Flying QF for $700 SYD-BKK return????????? I am a frequent traveller to BKK 5 or 6 times in 2012 and have never found going to BKK cheap. I often end up flying via SIN boooking exSIN prices are good value, I can make a reason to visit my sister in SIN.

And for the same dates flying QF dep 17/2 return 24/2 sees Qantas selling seats at $1,314. So you are paying a almost double.

But even if you think I am misleading at $300 at least it's closer to $300, than your view that QF is closer to $700.

You must of missed my earlier post with an actual comparison of QFF vs Scoot on dates I made a booking, hardly misleading, just a real world example.

No doubt out of sale QF are not cheap, that's yield management for you, and yes it's been on offer three times this year including my trip which is in a weeks time as well as two other trips I booked, all three times I checked and at best the premium was $200, as per my earlier post in the case of May QF were actually cheaper ($649 ex BNE) than Scoot for my dates with Scoot shortening my trip by not having a daily flight and excluding the accommodation needed for scoot coming home with the delicious 23 hr layover in SIN, the joys of flying ex QLD with no SIN relos to reduce expenses.

As I pointed out before, $200 is worth it for 20000 points alone to me, the luxury of not being baggage limited so I can shop to my hearts content (making more $$$ savings) and having lounge access just a nice bonus, and that's not factoring in the bonus points for getting billed by Qantas for my airfare on my QF flavoured Credit card! Yet strangely I don't use any Qantas website to book .

By all means keep flying Scoot, it means I will continue to get good Qantas airfares while they are around with a little bit more research than just checking out QF.com, of course Skyscanner helps as it gives me a max price to pay which is my starting point.

 

[Alanslegal]

Just as a reference, in the past 12 months, the best advertised/sale QF fare I have seen SYD-BKK return was $888. (Excluding the idea that you can book on Expedia.ie due to forex - how many of QF frequent flyers know to look/book on Expedia.ie?) Now for Scoot, as low as $300 on sale for the bare bones deal.

I am so over people LCC 'bashing', they are there and many full service carriers are bleeding $$ because they are taking business away from them. I am not paying $500 more to enjoy a generic Y meal, 16k points as a SG, and a standard seat selection when I can pay $5-10 for a standard seat on TZ, skip the generic meal, and the points, well $500 does not cover 16k points, and regardless $500 is 1/4 of US DM needed to travel Business Class to anywhere in the world.

 

[Alanslegal]

You must of missed my earlier post with an actual comparison of QFF vs Scoot on dates I made a booking, hardly misleading, just a real world example.

No doubt out of sale QF are not cheap, that's yield management for you, and yes it's been on offer three times this year including my trip which is in a weeks time as well as two other trips I booked, all three times I checked and at best the premium was $200, as per my earlier post in the case of May QF were actually cheaper ($649 ex BNE) than Scoot for my dates with Scoot shortening my trip by not having a daily flight and excluding the accommodation needed for scoot coming home with the delicious 23 hr layover in SIN, the joys of flying ex QLD with no SIN relos to reduce expenses.

As I pointed out before, $200 is worth it for 20000 points alone to me, the luxury of not being baggage limited so I can shop to my hearts content (making more $$$ savings) and having lounge access just a nice bonus, and that's not factoring in the bonus points for getting billed by Qantas for my airfare on my QF flavoured Credit card! Yet strangely I don't use any Qantas website to book .

By all means keep flying Scoot, it means I will continue to get good Qantas airfares while they are around with a little bit more research than just checking out QF.com, of course Skyscanner helps as it gives me a max price to pay which is my starting point.

Fair enough.

My real world examples are I have never seen ex SYD fares anywhere near TZ LCC model (and for what I need it to do ie. get me from a to z).

 

[markis10]

Just as a reference, in the past 12 months, the best advertised/sale QF fare I have seen SYD-BKK return was $888. (Excluding the idea that you can book on Expedia.ie due to forex - how many of QF frequent flyers know to look/book on Expedia.ie?) Now for Scoot, as low as $300 on sale for the bare bones deal.

People who rely on advertised specials are letting the game play them rather than playing the game, the fact is no one airline is always a good choice and for my circumstances, LCCs rarely add up to be good value anytime, as I don't have people I lean on to cover extra costs such as 23 hr transits!

 

[fersea]

You seem to be rather passionate about this markis10. All I can say is the one time (return) I flew Scoot they were very good and it was the $99 fares that made me go on the holiday, I wouldn't have bothered at higher prices.

I did actually fly to the Gold Coast on Friday afternoon and got there about 6pm (a delayed Qantas flight in itself) and noticed the Scoot plane sitting there. I thought it landed early in the morning. There were some people on the bus with Scoot baggage and they did look very tired!!

What I think is not considered by members on this forum is that if you fly LCC's regularly, you in effect "self insure" for any costs of a delay. The money you save easily covers accomodation for a night if you get stuck (which doesn't happen that often) if you are making a number of trips.

I think that where a lot of people criticise LCC is that they are once in a blue moon flyers who take the snotty nosed family on a trip and suddenly "Jetstar / Tiger / Scoot (insert applicable LCC here) ruined our holiday" is plastered all over facebook. If you fly LCC regularly, you find that most times they are ok.

 

[markis10]

You seem to be rather passionate about this markis10. All I can say is the one time (return) I flew Scoot they were very good and it was the $99 fares that made me go on the holiday, I wouldn't have bothered at higher prices..

I am passionate about getting value, which more often than not means something other than a LCC for me. Hopefully Scoot do some more $99 fares one day, seems people got value there, however I feel they are long gone.