Share 100% bonus Sept 30 - Oct 15 2013

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Re: USDM Share Miles 100% Bonus 1 - 15 Oct 2013

Do you have to already have miles to take advantage of this? I.e. I had signed SWMBO up, but neither of us have any miles in the account but I'm thinking now could be a good time to get on the USDM bandwagon?

It helps to have miles already, but in an earlier thread someone clearly laid out the steps to start from 0 and get the maximum value... The thing is to do that probably takes longer than 2 weeks (especially if you have to create new accounts, maybe not so if you have a set of existing accounts), which is probably why USDM made this offer for less than a month, reduces the scope for maxing out starting from nothing and no accounts...
 
Re: USDM Share Miles 100% Bonus 1 - 15 Oct 2013

Signed up for a US Airways account, but not sure I'll buy points with the merger "coming soon"

The thing is, this is the cheapest promo USDM runs and so definitely the best way to top up USDM's... If you won't be using them immediately and don't mind using them to potentially stock up some AA miles once the merger occurs (to get around AA's limiting 60k cap plus possibly 30k miles on a 50% bonus promo) then this also provides the USDM miles at the cheapest cost and so minimises the risk in case there is any devaluation in the switch over that we don't know about yet...

You will have less to lose in this transaction than any other way to get USDMs for use now or for potential AA use later...
 
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In case it's of interest/use I am posting some comments I wrote to some friends about this promo.

Why?
This promo is a cheap way of getting USAir miles, cheaper than the 100% bonus buy promos that USAir runs every few months. Normally sharing miles is not a good idea as you are just paying a fee to move miles you already have from one account to another, there is no net increase in miles. However when there is a 100% bonus the recipient account gets double the number of transferred miles. For example account A transfers(shares) 50K miles to B who gets 100K miles. The net increase in miles is 50k (i.e. A is down 50K and B is up 100K). This net increase in miles costs US$500 plus 7.5% tax and US$30 processing fee, in total US$567.50 i.e. US$11.35 per 1K.

How?
You need at least two accounts and some miles in at least one account to start the sharing process. An account needs to be open 12 days before it can buy, gift or share miles and this promo only lasts until 15 October so if you need a new account(s) for this process join up family and friends now!

The simplest share is as above: A shares 50K to B and B receives 100K, A is down 50K and B is up 100K.

A reciprocal share would be A sharing 50K to B (A is now down 50K and B is up 100K). Then B then shares 50K back to B (A is now up 100K and B is down 50K). The net result is each account is up 50K.

Another way of increasing miles in two accounts is to use a third account. For example A shares 50K to C (A is down 50K and C is up 100K). C then shares 50K back to A (C is down 50K and A is up 100K). C also shares 50K back to B (C is down 50K and B is up 100K). The net result is A is up 50K, B is up 100K and C is no change.

These examples assume that there is an account with at least 50K miles to start the sharing process. The process can be done with less than 50K, for example if A has 25K and shares all to B, B now has 50K and can share all back to A who now has 100K (a net increase of 75K).

The process varies according to the number of miles and accounts that are available and the number of accounts in which you want to increase the miles.

What if no miles to start?
If you don't have any miles then you can buy some miles at full price in one account and then share, increasing each time. The difficulty with this is the time taken for each transaction. Some times these transactions can be instant but sometimes they can take up to a couple of days and if any of the accounts have only just been opened than you need to wait 12 days. The smaller amount of miles purchased the more transfers that need to be done.

For example starting with three accounts with no miles A buys 13K at full price, A then shares the 13K to C who receives 26K, C shares the 26K back to B who now has 52K, B then shares 50K to A who has 100K (and B has a residual 2K). The cost of these miles is still less than the purchase of miles with a 100% bonus. You can bring the cost down by starting with a smaller purchase but you will need to make more transfers and you might run out of time.

If your aim is to get maximum miles into two accounts then for example starting with five accounts with no miles A buys 13K at full price, A shares the 13K to C who receives 26K, C shares the 26K to D who receives 52K, D shares 50K to E who receives 100K, E then shares 50K back to A and 50K back to B. The net result is A and B have 100K each and D has a residual 2K.

Of course it helps if you know (or can find) someone with 50K in an account who is willing to share with you. You will then have 100K which you can use 50K to repay by sharing back and the other 50K can start your sharing with other accounts of family or friends.

There are numerous possibilities - the main things to remember are:
• accounts need to be open 12 days to buy, gift or share miles
• the maximum bonus miles an account can receive under this promotion is 50K
• the maximum miles that can be gained by an account in this promotion is 100K (assumes that account receives a share of 50K with 50K bonus and does not share out any miles)
• usually miles post instantly but sometimes they can take a few days
• the transfers are done by points.com who sometimes put a block on or reject credit cards if they detect the card being used in a number of transactions, be prepared to have alternative cards ready.
 
Re: USDM Share Miles 100% Bonus 1 - 15 Oct 2013

Let's say there's A, B and C but one of B or C has zero miles to start with (but already a member for 12 days) and needs 110,000 miles for Australia to US ticket in J. How can she achieve 110,000 miles?
 
Re: USDM Share Miles 100% Bonus 1 - 15 Oct 2013

Signed up for a US Airways account, but not sure I'll buy points with the merger "coming soon"

Given they will transfer across at 1:1, I think you will find its a bit of a no brainer compared to the cost of normally getting AA miles.
 
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Re: USDM Share Miles 100% Bonus 1 - 15 Oct 2013

Given they will transfer across at 1:1, I think you will find its a bit if a no brainer compared to the cost of normally getting AA miles.
I agree, personally would marginally prefer these stayed as US Air miles but a great deal either way, the merger not really part of the consideration to me.
 
Re: USDM Share Miles 100% Bonus 1 - 15 Oct 2013

I just opened a legit account for my 10 month old infant. I wonder whether US Airways care that I would share miles with him, and then he share miles with me, even if using my credit cards?

My sister came back from her TG F trip to Europe 1 month ago using USDM deal. She absolutely loved it all. She shared the love by giving me some TG F pyjamas. I have emailed her the offer and hopefully she will join in as part of our big loop of sharing.
 
Re: USDM Share Miles 100% Bonus 1 - 15 Oct 2013

I just opened a legit account for my 10 month old infant. I wonder whether US Airways care that I would share miles with him, and then he share miles with me, even if using my credit cards?

My sister came back from her TG F trip to Europe 1 month ago using USDM deal. She absolutely loved it all. She shared the love by giving me some TG F pyjamas. I have emailed her the offer and hopefully she will join in as part of our big loop of sharing.
I have paid for my credit card for family/relations in the past, indeed same share promo last year for 3 transactions for my immediate family(wife & kids) and one for my sister. This was with the aim of getting enough points for all 5 of us to travel to Europe. This year will expand the circle to include my mother in law and my other sister,

In my opinion this is genuinely in the spirit of the promo of sharing with family and friends. Some here have expressed the opinion that US Air may frown on this but given points.com process the transactions not even sure they would have clear visibility of what card you used. Also the logic of "why would you buy miles for someone else" may be valid but hard to argue it is against the spirit when you are actively promoting a promo to do exactly that.
 
Re: USDM Share Miles 100% Bonus 1 - 15 Oct 2013

I have used my citibank account to buy miles for others in my family and for sharing them around, makes sense as it is a FX fee free card when dealing with transactions in US dollars (thereby saving a few extra % from being added)...

If US Air ever raised any queries I would be highlighting that fact... I guess as long as you could suggest some reasons for why one card might be being used (points, fee free FX etc) you will be on even stronger ground in the unlikely event they ever do query it...
 
Re: USDM Share Miles 100% Bonus 1 - 15 Oct 2013

So I think it's time for me to join this as well. Question:

All I want is 110k each in 2 accounts. So if I start off with 3 new and empty accounts (assuming all goes well timewise), I buy 50k for 2 account (A+B) and 20k for the third (C) share between the 3 accounts A to B, B to C, C to A, I end up with 100k in B and C and 20k in A. Is there any chance that after the end of this promo I can share (at the standard rate) 10k each from A to B and C?
 
Re: USDM Share Miles 100% Bonus 1 - 15 Oct 2013

I have paid for my credit card for family/relations in the past, indeed same share promo last year for 3 transactions for my immediate family(wife & kids) and one for my sister. This was with the aim of getting enough points for all 5 of us to travel to Europe. This year will expand the circle to include my mother in law and my other sister,

In my opinion this is genuinely in the spirit of the promo of sharing with family and friends. Some here have expressed the opinion that US Air may frown on this but given points.com process the transactions not even sure they would have clear visibility of what card you used. Also the logic of "why would you buy miles for someone else" may be valid but hard to argue it is against the spirit when you are actively promoting a promo to do exactly that.

I've opened accounts for both my parents purely for last years share promo - they dont even know what USDM is. You won't have any worries.
 
Re: USDM Share Miles 100% Bonus 1 - 15 Oct 2013

Okay guys does this make sense? Seems very cheap if correct! Aim is to end up with 2 accounts with 90,000 points in them, if I could get 4 that would even be better but not to sure how to at this stage.

Starts of with 4 family accounts all at 0 points. Number in brackets is the coughulative total of the bonus points awarded to that account.

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Thanks in advance.
 
Re: USDM Share Miles 100% Bonus 1 - 15 Oct 2013

Okay guys does this make sense? Seems very cheap if correct! Aim is to end up with 2 accounts with 90,000 points in them, if I could get 4 that would even be better but not to sure how to at this stage.

Starts of with 4 family accounts all at 0 points. Number in brackets is the coughulative total of the bonus points awarded to that account.

I vaguely remember from last year that it took a day or two for each transfer to process if using an Aussie credit card. If so, there is a risk you won't get to complete all of your transfers by 15 Oct.
 
Re: USDM Share Miles 100% Bonus 1 - 15 Oct 2013

I vaguely remember from last year that it took a day or two for each transfer to process if using an Aussie credit card. If so, there is a risk you won't get to complete all of your transfers by 15 Oct.
You can only try, reports from FT suggest instant but maybe not for Aussie cards, any first hand reports would be appreciated.

Edit: Just tried, it posts immediately (well you do need to sign in/out)
 
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Re: USDM Share Miles 100% Bonus 1 - 15 Oct 2013

You can only try, reports from FT suggest instant but maybe not for Aussie cards, any first hand reports would be appreciated.

Edit: Just tried, it posts immediately (well you do need to sign in/out)

Yep, working instantly at the moment. So do my numbers look about right? Best way to maximise it to get all accounts up to 90,000?
 
Re: USDM Share Miles 100% Bonus 1 - 15 Oct 2013

Just a quick question........A has 300K and B has 0 an was created 2 days ago. If A shares 50K to B does B get 100K? or do I have to wait for the 12 days to pass. I am happy for B to wait for the 12 days to transfer back to A but I would like to get a jump on the process if possible.
 
Re: USDM Share Miles 100% Bonus 1 - 15 Oct 2013

Just a quick question........A has 300K and B has 0 an was created 2 days ago. If A shares 50K to B does B get 100K? or do I have to wait for the 12 days to pass. I am happy for B to wait for the 12 days to transfer back to A but I would like to get a jump on the process if possible.
The rules states no share within 12 days but doesn't define what "share" is, i.e. is it the giving only or does it include the receiving. I'd be (in fact I will be) waiting.
 
Re: USDM Share Miles 100% Bonus 1 - 15 Oct 2013

We have 2 accounts and 0 in each. They were opened for the 100% bonus but we didn't have any spare money to buy miles at the time.
Based on this and other threads, I should buy 5000 points at full price and share as much between the two as I can until a. time is up or b. we have received the full bonus.
We want to go to ROR for diving..
 
Re: USDM Share Miles 100% Bonus 1 - 15 Oct 2013

Could you have "too much" USDM in your account, considering the "risks" of the impending merger and so forth ?

I realise it is along the line of "how long is the piece of string?" but I have not even touched the last 1:1 purchase yet.

Your thoughts ?
 
Re: USDM Share Miles 100% Bonus 1 - 15 Oct 2013

Could you have "too much" USDM in your account, considering the "risks" of the impending merger and so forth ?

I realise it is along the line of "how long is the piece of string?" but I have not even touched the last 1:1 purchase yet.

Your thoughts ?

What are the risks, the only one I see is devaluation which is inevitable in any stored miles program. Given the miles cost is far lower than AA I think buying AA miles is risker if not used pre-merger.
 
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