Starlux wants to join Oneworld

[SYD]

Mentioned here yesterday.

Four-Year Status Match with Starlux

Mine is 31/12/23, hopefully we see an alliance and/or some partnerships start to appear, making starlux more relevant for us in AU.

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

and previously speculated here.

Will Starlux join Oneworld? (ET)

Since their other 2 local rivals are already in Star and SkyTeam. It may be a while off as long haul travel begins the slow road to recovery in North Asia. Starlux exec: the airline “will certainly” join an alliance Taiwan’s Starlux Airlines sees membership of an airline alliance in its...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

But now being picked up by others after the CEO of Starlux announced their intention to seek OW membership but will CX veto?

Starlux Airlines Wants To Join The Oneworld Alliance

Taiwan's Starlux Airlines wants to join the oneworld alliance, which is an exciting development. However, there's one potential obstacle.

onemileatatime.com

The‘ve been expanding their Nth Am routes but not much in this direction AFAIK?

 

[Mwenenzi]

Would expect the Chinese airline, Cathay Pacific would not be in favour.

Starlux Airlines - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

https://www.starlux-airlines.com/en-Global

Currently a small airlines (22 aircraft)

Starlux is an AS Alaska ff partner

Another blogger (they tend to parrot each other)

Taiwanese Carrier STARLUX Intends To Join oneworld Alliance - View from the Wing

This is a crowded market, and having a U.S. connectivity partner only with Alaska is limiting. Taiwanese media is reporting that Starlux is looking to join the oneworld alliance, putting them on stronger footing against their larger Taiwanese long haul rivals.

viewfromthewing.com

Taiwan’s Starlux Airlines is fascinating. It’s a revenge play by the former Chairman of Star Alliance carrier EVA Air who was ousted after his father’s death, the victim of an estate squabble stemming from plural marriage. He was son to the founder’s second wife, and ousted by the children of the founder’s first wife.

 

[jase05]

Would be remarkable that Taiwan has 3 World class airlines with one in each of the major alliances

 

[RSVKanga]

The current Chinese carrier in OW is a founding member of the alliance and therefore has veto powers, and I don't think they would be afraid to use them.

 

[justinbrett]

CX can only veto if they stay

Cathay Pacific May Leave oneworld, Be Acquired By Air China - View from the Wing

Air China, which currently owns 30% of Cathay Pacific, is considering taking control of the Hong Kong-based airline. The Chinese flag carrier and Star Alliance member could cause a realignment of global airline alliances, moving Cathay from oneworld (American Airlines, British Airways) over to...

viewfromthewing.com

Wouldn't be surprised if oneworld execs have been courting them on the chance CX does leave.

 

[jase05]

CX can only veto if they stay

Cathay Pacific May Leave oneworld, Be Acquired By Air China - View from the Wing

Air China, which currently owns 30% of Cathay Pacific, is considering taking control of the Hong Kong-based airline. The Chinese flag carrier and Star Alliance member could cause a realignment of global airline alliances, moving Cathay from oneworld (American Airlines, British Airways) over to...

viewfromthewing.com

Wouldn't be surprised if oneworld execs have been courting them on the chance CX does leave.

Wasn’t CZ in talks to join OW at one stage?
OW definitely need a presence in China IMO

 

[elanshin]

I think it really depends on how starlux and the others approach the situation.

Whilst CX does have vested interest, this is also a little different compared to CZ (China Southern) who is literally up the road from CX and HKG.

Starlux would be competing with CX, but at the same time not directly either. For places like Taiwan which has quite a bit of traffic on their own, Transpacific offerings likely cater to different crowds.

It would mean interesting things for QF and CI partnershipd as CI is a good option to spend QFF points. Unless JX starts up flights to Australia, it would mean a downgrade for QFF if CI is dropped as a partner.

 

[jase05]

I think it really depends on how starlux and the others approach the situation.

Whilst CX does have vested interest, this is also a little different compared to CZ (China Southern) who is literally up the road from CX and HKG.

Starlux would be competing with CX, but at the same time not directly either. For places like Taiwan which has quite a bit of traffic on their own, Transpacific offerings likely cater to different crowds.

It would mean interesting things for QF and CI partnershipd as CI is a good option to spend QFF points. Unless JX starts up flights to Australia, it would mean a downgrade for QFF if CI is dropped as a partner.

I just can’t see JX starting flights to Australia, CI does ok but BR hasn’t even attempted to open up more Australian destinations.
CI is a good option for QF points so would be a loss if that partnership ended

 

[SYD]

CI is a good option for QF points so would be a loss if that partnership ended

Yeah, I meant to comment on that also. It probably doesn't phase QF too much if they maintain that partnership and JX do join OW since they don't fly to Oz.

 

[moa999]

While CX does have lots of cheap fares ex-TPE not sure if they make much money on it, and letting JX join would be similar to QR not being concerned about WY Oman joining.

Agree if CX got bought out by CA and folded into Star, then it would make sense for CZ to join.

 

[Ansett Nostalgic]

The current Chinese carrier in OW is a founding member of the alliance and therefore has veto powers, and I don't think they would be afraid to use them.

Oneworld currently does not have a Chinese carrier.

 

[Himeno]

Oneworld currently does not have a Chinese carrier.

Depends what you mean by "Chinese".

 

[RSVKanga]

Oneworld currently does not have a Chinese carrier.

Hong Kong is a part of China.

 

[RooFlyer]

Depends what you mean by "Chinese".

Yes. Cathay is based in Hong Kong, ultimately ruled by the CCP in Beijing. Its ownership is 45% Swire Pacific (owned by private company John Swire & Sons in London), Air China 30% and ... Qatar Airways 9.9%

Something I didn't know:
Cathay Pacific was founded on 24 September 1946 by Australian Sydney H. de Kantzow and American Roy C. Farrell.

 

[hwy]

I have heard many good things about Starlux. Would be terrific if they expand into Australia.

Someone tell Qld State Govt so they can spend more money attracting them to BNE airport.

 

[AIRwin]

I have heard many good things about Starlux. Would be terrific if they expand into Australia.

Someone tell Qld State Govt so they can spend more money attracting them to BNE airport.

Wonder any destinations (other than TPE) served by all of BR, CI and JX?

 

[dajop]

Wonder any destinations (other than TPE) served by all of BR, CI and JX?

Not hard to find. Many airports are. SIN, BKK, SFO, LAX, NRT, KIX .... etc etc

 

[moa999]

And more smoke.
And also a comment that it's to fly to Australia.

Starlux Airlines to apply to join Oneworld alliance - Taipei Times

Bringing Taiwan to the World and the World to Taiwan

www.taipeitimes.com

 

[SYD]

And more smoke.
And also a comment that it's to fly to Australia.

Starlux Airlines to apply to join Oneworld alliance - Taipei Times

Bringing Taiwan to the World and the World to Taiwan

www.taipeitimes.com

Is that apply to join by the end of next year or aim to be in OW by the end of next year? The later is obviously an aggressive timetable but waiting another 15 odd months to apply seems long? I wonder if they have a sponsor already and/or they need to work behind the scenes to get consensus from founding members.

 

[drron]

The new CEO of OW is quoted on X back on 17/6 this year just after Starlux announce it wanted to join OW that he didn't think it likely that Starlux would join OW. Nathaniel Peiper comes from AS so it seems no close friends for Starlux.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1802659829896659425