Strategy to obtain US Amex

Anyone using interactive brokers got reviewed:

We’ve detected frequent deposits and withdrawals. IBKR conducts regular due diligence reviews on irregular client deposit and withdrawal activity, and we are inquiring about the below activity:

  • What is the reason for the frequent number of deposits and withdrawals to and from your account?
  • Please explain the reason for payments to US credit facilities such as AMEX, ALLIANT, HSBC & WISE.
If so how did you answer? I've read some people online got shut down for answering honestly...
 
what is the usual time Amex take to review documents? Was asked to confirm name so uploaded P2's passport on Wednesday. so has been 2 days, not heard back yet.

first GT
 
P2's passport on Wednesday.
I’ve had P2’s first GT having all notification letters sent via snail mail to US address for some reason.

Her email does work (after uploading requested docs, she gets a confirmation email), but useful correspondence is not being emailed…

Give them a call after 5 business days if you haven’t heard anything further
 
I’ve had P2’s first GT having all notification letters sent via snail mail to US address for some reason.

Her email does work (after uploading requested docs, she gets a confirmation email), but useful correspondence is not being emailed…

Give them a call after 5 business days if you haven’t heard anything further
thanks, hoping nothing further required as they did not ask for address validation so i did not attach HSBC statement.
 
Anyone using interactive brokers got reviewed:

We’ve detected frequent deposits and withdrawals. IBKR conducts regular due diligence reviews on irregular client deposit and withdrawal activity, and we are inquiring about the below activity:

  • What is the reason for the frequent number of deposits and withdrawals to and from your account?
  • Please explain the reason for payments to US credit facilities such as AMEX, ALLIANT, HSBC & WISE.
If so how did you answer? I've read some people online got shut down for answering honestly...
@Franko Costa can probably assist
 
Anyone using interactive brokers got reviewed:

We’ve detected frequent deposits and withdrawals. IBKR conducts regular due diligence reviews on irregular client deposit and withdrawal activity, and we are inquiring about the below activity:

  • What is the reason for the frequent number of deposits and withdrawals to and from your account?
  • Please explain the reason for payments to US credit facilities such as AMEX, ALLIANT, HSBC & WISE.
If so how did you answer? I've read some people online got shut down for answering honestly...
I do about AUD$50k per month for 6 months straight. All to Amex account (rarely to other banks).

I just explained that I have US business there. They just want to confirm you aren't money laundering. I also had to get a investor wholesale approval from them too (I signed up as a wholesale client so not sure if that makes a difference)
 
thanks, hoping nothing further required as they did not ask for address validation so i did not attach HSBC statement.
Damn, looks like they have opened the document upload portal again. Most likely need to verify address unless there was something wrong with the passport pic posted.
 
Damn, looks like they have opened the document upload portal again. Most likely need to verify address unless there was something wrong with the passport pic posted.
When we got the call to verify with the link I uploaded Passport/ITIN and 2 x bank statements from HSBC - we did NovaCredit but same process - was hoping that would verify address and pre empt them saying all ok
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Anyone using interactive brokers got reviewed:

We’ve detected frequent deposits and withdrawals. IBKR conducts regular due diligence reviews on irregular client deposit and withdrawal activity, and we are inquiring about the below activity:

  • What is the reason for the frequent number of deposits and withdrawals to and from your account?
  • Please explain the reason for payments to US credit facilities such as AMEX, ALLIANT, HSBC & WISE.
If so how did you answer? I've read some people online got shut down for answering honestly...
I have done about 25K a month for 3-4 months and no questions so far - but mostly send to Amex account too (have HSBC linked into as well). Had heard people were shut down for this behaviour overseas - wasn't sure if this was also a local account event - so far no request for info (but just did a 25K transfer 2 days ago)
 
When we got the call to verify with the link I uploaded Passport/ITIN and 2 x bank statements from HSBC - we did NovaCredit but same process - was hoping that would verify address and pre empt them saying all ok
thanks, quick question does your HSBC statement contain your Apt or Suite number? Mine does not but not sure if it matters.
 
I have done about 25K a month for 3-4 months and no questions so far - but mostly send to Amex account too
Thanks for the feedback. My amounts were much smaller only about 10-20k each month but did 2 larger withdrawals in last month and also did withdrawals to diff banks to meet the deposit bonuses.


Guess the 2 larger than normal withdrawals and to diff banks each time is what triggered it.

I just explained that I have US business there. They just want to confirm you aren't money laundering. I also had to get a investor wholesale approval from them too (I signed up as a wholesale client so not sure if that makes a difference)
Hmm the wholesale investor might have helped. I sent through my response last night. If they query further about large expenses, I'll just tell them it's for my business in the US.
 
Which amex card are people going for for their first GT? I am debating which is the most useful for me being based in Australia. Purely for the points transfer utility I could go for the green charge, but there's debatably better value going for a hotel card like the aspire or brilliant. Curious as to whether the whole charade is even worth it. AF plays a part in it too, as USD$650 / 1k AUD for the bonvoy brilliant is rather steep if I already am paying for an AU Plat which gets me gold with Marriott. Any anecdotes would be appreciated :)
 
Welcome to the game. This is it - there is no perfect answer only the one that works for you. For my first GT I went with Green as I wanted to transfer MR points. I have focused on MR points with subsequent cards. For P2 cards we are going down hotel cards - airline redemption were more important than hotel redemptions for us at this stage so we prioritised that.

Do some sums and work out costing and work out how much each cost is worth it to you. Finally don't just get SUB or chase points if you dont have good way of using them

Good luck
 
FWIW I have the Green. It's bonus categories currently work in AU m& I transfer my AU MR once a year. Shame the AUD is falling like a stone!

I have Marriott Brilliant and depending on where you travel, the boost to Platinum Status won't make a difference - I went to Japan and stayed at a St Regis. There were no upgrades (except for one night but not the whole stay) - there were plenty of Ambassadors staying so they understandably took priority over humble Platinum. I think it depends on what you want but don't count on it for outsized upgrades to justify the AF - likely won't happen. Happy to hear stories of where it has happened.
 
I went for Hilton Aspire Amex to get Hilton Diamond status as I stay in a lot of Hilton chain hotels around the world....room upgrade, free b'fast and Exec lounge access (if there is one) are great benefits imo. Diamond helps secure early / late checkout but no guarantees of course. The US$550 AF is offset by the 1 free night at any Hilton group hotel and the various cash backs. No brainer for me :)
 
i actually went with the Hilton free card for P2 and will either do hilton free or Green card for myself in a few months. Reason being i want a good cheap/free first card which i can keep indefinitely, hopefully assisting with credit scores.
 
I don't have MR points in Australia and my spend is not consistent high, so my priority has been a little different to most others in this thread.

I went with Hilton Surpass back when it had a $95 annual fee as I thought the instant gold and 10 visit priority pass effectively made it a cost neutral card to hold indefinitely. Amex clearly agreed with my view and decided they were giving away too much value - around half a year after getting it, the PP benefit was nixed and the annual fee increased.

To counter this, during the transition period to the new surpass product, I decided to get a Hilton basic amex - the thinking being I may as well apply for that and secure the sign up bonus before I eventually downgrade the surpass to a basic (you obviously don't get a bonus for downgrading, and once you've downgraded to the basic you can't get the sign up bonus for the basic card with a new application anymore either. Also note that you can hold onto two basics, so my thinking was that I could retain them both at that level and age both accounts indefinitely).

A year on, I haven't actually downgraded the surpass as I've found the new quarterly $50 credits to be fairly easy to use up, but I was itching to do something so I ended up applying for the IHG premier with Chase - again the thinking being at $95 annual fee, a good sign up bonus and a free hotel night annually after that effectively means it is a net zero cost card to keep.

What's next? My ultimate goal is the C1 VX, which I regard as being the ultimate net zero cost card - it may not earn the most points, but it is a decent all rounder with some great ongoing benefits, meaning I can almost use that as my day to day card for everything and get a decent earn everywhere. This one is proving hard to get, especially as my credit score has stayed stubbornly low (at the "good" level), plus some of the feedback from others here about C1 is making me nervous. That said, I'm still going to aim for it and will switch back to Aus churning in the meantime.

The cards I got has opened me up to the world of hotel points earning. You don't have nearly as many chances to get outsized value, but given the way airline devaluations are going (plus a healthy stash of qf and va points still), I'm not feeling like I'm at a substantial disadvantage holding onto these cards as opposed to flexible currency cards. IHG and Hilton have both treated me fairly well - I've received modest upgrades on almost every stay with the status conferred with the cards.

Your strategy really needs to be tailored to your lifestyle - how much you're willing to spend each month, how regularly you want to churn, whether you want to build a strategy for your Australian MR, etc. My approach has been far less ambitious than many others on here!
 
Anyone using interactive brokers got reviewed:

We’ve detected frequent deposits and withdrawals. IBKR conducts regular due diligence reviews on irregular client deposit and withdrawal activity, and we are inquiring about the below activity:

  • What is the reason for the frequent number of deposits and withdrawals to and from your account?
  • Please explain the reason for payments to US credit facilities such as AMEX, ALLIANT, HSBC & WISE.
If so how did you answer? I've read some people online got shut down for answering honestly...
This is concerning. I've been using them for 2+ years for USD transfers but have had the account for slightly longer. I've also supplied them my ITIN.
I also hold US stocks and actively do couple of intra day trades every now and then. No questions so far.
Monthly USD withdrawal (ACH xfer to Amex Checking) avgs around US$5-8k....
 

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