The COVID-19 vaccine rollout in Australia has begun

[trevella]

All I'm saying is that the exceedingly rare event of a nurse administering a vaccine into a vein is probably about the same likelihood as someone getting TTS. Could this be a sheer coincidence? Absolutely!

End of story.

 

[justinbrett]

LOL I love these people trying to salvage Australia's abysmal vaccination rate. Do you work for ScoMo?

We are second last in the OECD for vaccinations per 100 people (ie at least one dose).

We are dead last in the OECD for fully vaccinated people per 100 people (ie first and second doses).

That is not correct. We are above the world average for at least one dose.

There are quite a few ALP produced graphs that have selectively omitted several countries to show Australia further down the list. I suggest you go to an impartial source.

 

[jakeseven7]

I think it was way busier than normal today due to a rush of under 40’s without appointments turning up in hopes of getting AZ.
Watched a segment on Ch7 news tonight. I was there 3 weeks ago with my 3 daughters and nowhere near the lineup or wait time.

Clearly there is a lot of people who are eager to get vaccinated and that’s awesome. Let’s harness this through the GPs and get it done

ABC reporting this AM that thousands of under 40’s were turned away from mass vax hubs yesterday in NSW and they were live at a site and there were hundreds down there today already waiting in the queue.

They interviewed some and apparently they didn’t know that under 40’s could only get vaccinated at GP’s for now..... because of the rubbish communication - don’t really blame them for not knowing.....

Some jumped on the phone (on camera) straight away to book their appointment so good on them for being tenacious. What a mess.

 

[kangarooflyer88]

That is not correct. We are above the world average for at least one dose.

There are quite a few ALP produced graphs that have selectively omitted several countries to show Australia further down the list. I suggest you go to an impartial source.

C'mon man, you can't compare Australia to Nigeria or Venezuela, you need to compare it against comparable countries, in other words Western and developed like the US, Canada or Europe. In that regard the record is abysmal. I do blame the Prime Minister but the assist must go to the Premiers who have done everything in their power to maximize suffering by extending lockdowns and making the few vaccines we have only available to those of their choosing. I'm still taken aback by Prime Minister of Queensland who flat out said no one in Queensland under 40 gets the jab. What gives her the right to do this? Is she a Medical Doctor? Has she engaged in the millions of conversations Queenslanders should have with their GPs on the suitability of the vaccine?

Your Trusty,

KangarooFlyer88

 

[Lynda2475]

ABC reporting this AM that thousands of under 40’s were turned away from mass vax hubs yesterday in NSW and they were live at a site and there were hundreds down there today already waiting in the queue.

Dr Chant was very clear yesterday that the state run mass vaccination centres will not give AZ to any under 60s. And they have never taken walk ins so that is BS.

NSW messaging has been clear and consistent.

Im at Olympic Park right now, there are two orderly queues based on time of appointment. No masses of under 40s.

No random trying to walk in, as if no QR appointment code the Marshall's send you away before you can join the line.

 

[Flying mermaid]

Well yes! Let the Feds roll our vaccinations! But they have refused to supply QLD. There’s your argument right there.

Qld was asking for half of the nation’s supply of Pfizer, of course they were refused! They are getting their normal allocation just refused extra

 

[jakeseven7]

Dr Chant was very clear yesterday that the state run mass vaccination centres will not give AZ to under 60s. And they have never taken walk ins so that is BS.

Im at Olympic Park right now, there are two queues based on time of appointment. No masses of under 40s.

Clearly not everyone in Sydney watched the full press conference and every word she said then, what a shocker

People read grabs here and there so calling them names for not understanding a complicated and ever changing roll out is a little mean of you. They certainly learned the hard way!

 

[bcworld]

That is not correct. We are above the world average for at least one dose.

We should be comparing ourselves with similar countries (in terms of wealth) with advanced healthcare systems, not 'the world'. Australia sits a tiny but above the world average but looking further down the list you will not find many countries with an economic or healthcare profile like Australia.

 

[justinbrett]

C'mon man, you can't compare Australia to Nigeria or Venezuela, you need to compare it against comparable countries, in other words Western and developed like the US, Canada or Europe. In that regard the record is abysmal. I do blame the Prime Minister but the assist must go to the Premiers who have done everything in their power to maximize suffering by extending lockdowns and making the few vaccines we have only available to those of their choosing. I'm still taken aback by Prime Minister of Queensland who flat out said no one in Queensland under 40 gets the jab. What gives her the right to do this? Is she a Medical Doctor? Has she engaged in the millions of conversations Queenslanders should have with their GPs on the suitability of the vaccine?

Your Trusty,

KangarooFlyer88

How about Japan and New Zealand?

We're ahead of both of them.

And Colombia and Mexico

 

[kangarooflyer88]

ABC reporting this AM that thousands of under 40’s were turned away from mass vax hubs yesterday in NSW and they were live at a site and there were hundreds down there today already waiting in the queue.

They interviewed some and apparently they didn’t know that under 40’s could only get vaccinated at GP’s for now..... because of the rubbish communication - don’t really blame them for not knowing.....

Some jumped on the phone (on camera) straight away to book their appointment so good on them for being tenacious. What a mess.

Let's hope the young keep showing up to these clinics and creating havoc. Perhaps they'll send a clear message to our politicians that the young are ready, willing and able to get the vaccine right now and don't want to go through the drama they have put us through with regulations that change by the day and lockdowns whose credibility is eroding by the days. Why is it California has eradicated all these restrictions once and for all and yet they haven't seen a huge spike in COVID cases? Hint: it's the vaccine!

Dr Chant was very clear yesterday that the state run mass vaccination centres will not give AZ to under 60s. And they have never taken walk ins so that is BS.

Im at Olympic Park right now, there are two queues based on time of appointment. No masses of under 40s.

The first statement on state-run mass vaccination centres not giving the AZ to under 60s is factually untrue. I'm in my 30s and got my second dose of AZ on June 26 from one such facility in Sydney. Perhaps it was because I got my first dose with no ill-effects prior to them coming up with these wacky rules. However, I suspect if I were to go through this again, I'd still be able to get the AZ vaccine at the clinics as I'm Phase 1b and therefore override whatever NSW Health has on the books.

Your Trusty,

KangarooFlyer88

 

[Flying mermaid]

What’s new? If you have a strong stomach watch it... New levels were achieved today. Shouting, lying, deflecting - It was a DISASTER and self-preservation was the number 1 priority (for all involved today).

4 more months till the CHO is moved on. Tick tock....

Wasted an hour watching it yesterday. Don’t think they were anymore unhinged than usual. However it was a Master class in refusing to take any responsibility, deflection and cleverly tapping into popular social media hysteria about returning Australians in order to create targets for the populace to bay after.

Was talking to Dr FM last night and she said she didn’t have time to watch it but some of the nurses were and she gathered from the way they were shaking their heads they weren’t happy with it.

 

[Lynda2475]

so calling them names

I didn't call anyone names, I called the claim that there are heaps of under 40s rocking up for walking bs, because I'm at the main centre now and it isn't the case.

The messaging in NSW at the presser, on the NSW gov and nsw health websites etc is absolutely consistent. No walk-ins, if under 60 and want AZ go to GP.

 

[Lynda2475]

Let's hope the young keep showing up to these clinics and creating havoc

What an awful sentiment encouraging people to do the wrong thing and disrupt vaccinations for those who followed the process. The msw state run hubs were set up primarily for Pfizer.

 

[justinbrett]

Wasted an hour watching it yesterday. Don’t think they were anymore unhinged than usual. However it was a Master class in refusing to take any responsibility, deflection and cleverly tapping into popular social media hysteria about returning Australians in order to create targets for the populace to bay after.

Was talking to Dr FM last night and she said she didn’t have time to watch it but some of the nurses were and she gathered from the way they were shaking their heads they weren’t happy with it.

Did anyone watch AP on the 730 report? She had changed some of her answers since the press conference (to take even less responsibility).

I wish it were Leigh Sales interviewing her, I think Laura Tingle didn't press very hard.

It's widely proven AP said two "mistruths"
1 - That the UK regulator prohibits AZ for under 40s (in fact their policy is the same as ours)
2 - That the federal government plans to set up mass vaccination hubs for AZ for under 40s

 

[Flying mermaid]

How about Japan and New Zealand?

We're ahead of both of them.

And Colombia and Mexico

We are not ahead of Japan or Colombia or Mexico! Where do you get your figures from? I use CovidLive
Doses per 100,000

Fiji. 36,213
Colombia 34,905
Mexico. 34,791
Japan 34,294
Australia 29,761

we are ahead of

Russia 26,961
New Zealand 24,035
India. 23,962
and sit well into the top half at 78th spot.

 

[kangarooflyer88]

What an awful sentiment encouraging people to do the wrong thing and disrupt vaccinations for those who followed the process. The msw state run hubs were set up primarily for Pfizer.

I think the point I was trying to make is to open up vaccine availability to everyone. Right now you have to jump through hoops, booking appointments, filling out questionnaires, seeing which clinics have availablity, even if you're Phase 1b to get a jab. Yes, the process may appear more organized but everything is proceeding at a snail's pace due to this very fact despite there being ample supply of the AZ vaccine.

As for the hubs themselves, I believe it depends on the ones you are looking at. Some are as you said Pfizer or AZ only whilst others are a mixture such as the Olympic hub.

-KangarooFlyer88

 

[justinbrett]

We are not ahead of Japan or Colombia or Mexico! Where do you get your figures from? I use CovidLive
Doses per 100,000

Fiji. 36,213
Colombia 34,905
Mexico. 34,791
Japan 34,294
Australia 29,761

we are ahead of

Russia 26,961
India 24,035

and sit well into the top half at 78th spot.

I would not trust covidlive for non-Australian stats, I have found it to be quite patchy.

My data comes from Coronavirus (COVID-19) Vaccinations - Statistics and Research which is used by most media outlets (" We only rely on figures that are verifiable based on public official sources.")

 

[Flying mermaid]

I would not trust covidlive for non-Australian stats, I have found it to be quite patchy.

My data comes from Coronavirus (COVID-19) Vaccinations - Statistics and Research which is used by most media outlets (" We only rely on figures that are verifiable based on public official sources.")

Covid live is taking them from Our World in Data. - which is the same source as yours. Many different ways to present the figures

EDIT and interestingly our world in data states that it’s source for Australia is the Australian Government via Covid Live

So for example if you change to fully vaccinated it’s a different story to 1 jab

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Vaccinations

Our vaccination dataset uses the most recent official numbers from governments and health ministries worldwide. Population estimates for per-capita metrics are based on the United Nations World Population Prospects. Income groups are based on the World Bank classification. A full list of our...

ourworldindata.org

 

[kangarooflyer88]

We are not ahead of Japan or Colombia or Mexico! Where do you get your figures from? I use CovidLive
Doses per 100,000

Fiji. 36,213
Colombia 34,905
Mexico. 34,791
Japan 34,294
Australia 29,761

we are ahead of

Russia 26,961
New Zealand 24,035
India. 23,962
and sit well into the top half at 78th spot.

I don't think it's fair to compare Australia with Mexico or Brazil two countries run by people who haven't taken COVID seriously at all despite them having vaccinated a larger percentage of the population. This is not a race, it's about saving lives. Remember that!

-KangarooFlyer88

 

[justinbrett]

Covid live is taking them from Our World in Data

Well I don't know what to tell you, I'm looking at it right now (and it was posted in table form by other poster above).

Edit: I think you might be looking at total doses, we were discussing total vaccinated (at least one dose)

This is the problem, there's so many metrics, you can find one to match your point!