The COVID-19 vaccine rollout in Australia has begun

My thought is that the Government should be highlighting the fact that the official ATAGI advice for those that have had their first AZ dose without serious side effects should have their second AZ dose and not wait for Pfizer or another vaccine.It is a fact that most in the media and their "health experts" are ignorant of.
The chances of getting clots after the second dose is very low.85% of clotting events happen after the first dose.
 
My thought is that the Government should be highlighting the fact that the official ATAGI advice for those that have had their first AZ dose without serious side effects should have their second AZ dose and not wait for Pfizer or another vaccine.It is a fact that most in the media and their "health experts" are ignorant of.
The chances of getting clots after the second dose is very low.85% of clotting events happen after the first dose.
I agree but it should be the media and the peddlers of fear that should swallow their confected controversy and support the completion of vaccination of the over 60s with AZ.
I am on the frontline of explaining the benefits and now shrug my shoulders at the ignorance!
 
I agree but it should be the media and the peddlers of fear that should swallow their confected controversy and support the completion of vaccination of the over 60s with AZ.
I am on the frontline of explaining the benefits and now shrug my shoulders at the ignorance!
Nice concept but the media have always been peddlers of bad news, you’ll be waiting a long long time for that to change. Which is why realistically we need a media campaign from government and real experts. This has happened and has worked in a number of other countries, far more likely to work than the hope that the media will change their spots.
 
On Tomorrow's Front Page of the Courier Mail, Daily Telegraph and Herald Sun: In the Courier Mail "Pfizer Gets Nod For Children - Jabs for our Kids - Exclusive - Drug regulator gives tick to Covid vaccine for young Aussies aged 12-16". Apparently Greg Hunt will make an announcement about this in the morning.

On The Australian there are a few stories, "Astra blitz: PM says get the jab now" and also "Young flocking to get AZ shot"

Meanwhile in The Hobart Mercury - "Tassie case of blood-clotting linked to AstraZeneca jab - Vax Death"
 
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My thought is that the Government should be highlighting the fact that the official ATAGI advice for those that have had their first AZ dose without serious side effects should have their second AZ dose and not wait for Pfizer or another vaccine.It is a fact that most in the media and their "health experts" are ignorant of.
The chances of getting clots after the second dose is very low.85% of clotting events happen after the first dose.
The whole AstraZeneca nonsense has got to stop. When we see Premiers, Chief Health Officers, ATAGI, and the media play your Doctor and prescribe what vaccine they think you should have without knowing a single fact about your medical history they are engaging in an unethical practice. The fact of the matter is there is no blanket rule for which vaccine to get, it really depends on your medical history, risk tolerance and personal preference quite frankly.

What we do know is if you don't mind getting AstraZeneca, you can get fully protected right now rather than waiting weeks or perhaps many months to be fully vaccinated with Pfizer. If you get the AstraZeneca jab there is a tiny risk you may develop blood clots, but that risk pales in comparison to getting COVID in Sydney or being hospitalized from it. We also know that these blood clots can be readily treated in hospital, but complications from COVID often require intensive care. Medical history also plays a huge role too. For instance, if you have an autoimmune disease, you may want to choose AstraZeneca over Pfizer because more is known about the impact conventional vaccine technology like AstraZeneca has for us autoimmune cohort than this new fangled mRNA stuff. If you are really young and have any heart issues, you may want to consider AstraZeneca over Pfizer given AstraZeneca doesn't have the same risk of developing myocarditis in the young. On the other hand, if you are prone to blood clots or have a family history of blood clots, then certainly a strong argument can be made towards getting Pfizer. If you are in a high risk group and are living in an area with a high rate of transmission in Sydney, you may want to get the Pfizer now to get protected right away. What no one is talking about in the media is the fact that those who are high priority (Phase 1a/1b) can walk over anyone else requesting the Pfizer and get it straight away. That's why the Commonwealth set up respiratory clinics designed exclusively for us.
On Tomorrow's Front Page of the Courier Mail, Daily Telegraph and Herald Sun: In the Courier Mail "Pfizer Gets Nod For Children - Jabs for our Kids - Exclusive - Drug regulator gives tick to Covid vaccine for young Aussies aged 12-16". Apparently Greg Hunt will make an announcement about this in the morning.

On The Australian there are a few stories, "Astra blitz: PM says get the jab now" and also "Young flocking to get AZ shot"

Meanwhile in The Hobart Mercury - "Tassie case of blood-clotting linked to AstraZeneca jab - Vax Death"

It's good to see the narrative change from lockdowns to vaccination. I think we're all getting sick and tired of border closures and lockdowns. They may have served us very well last year in keeping COVID out, but they are no longer appropriate given we have vaccines that effectively defang the threat of COVID. The media also needs to be responsible in how they report things. Simply reporting a death from the vaccine without giving any context is downright irresponsible. What the media and the governments need to do now is publicize where and how people can get vaccinated. It's not enough to say go out and get vaccinated when the process involves navigating the red tape for getting a jab. Aside from a few parts of Sydney and regional NSW, we are far from the US where getting a COVID jab is as simple as picking up a candy bar at the local Walgreens.

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re the booking system was so easy, I say again ppl here in Aus are the biggest whingers, take the world title, it's nonstop oh it's too hard, it should be better, easier, served on a platter for me, oh my!
I was working in Melbourne for 2 months recently. I wholeheartedly agree with what jb747 stated.
The booking system in Victoria is a joke, complete disaster.

Called the hotline twice and it hung up on me both times
The website went in circles (make a booking button went did a loop - loop to nowhere).
When l did get through on the hotline (3rd time lucky), the next available booking was over a month away as l was working nightshift with 1 rotating day off per week.

Like l said before, the Government needs to put it's big boy pants on and bring in the military for assistance and do 24/7 hubs that can accomodate big numbers of people per 24 hours at several proper mass vaccinated hubs. Sydney convention centre with free 3 hour parking would be a good place to start, as it's probably sitting empty anyways...? What about drive in movies, and do drive through jabs like the USA?
 
I was working in Melbourne for 2 months recently. I wholeheartedly agree with what jb747 stated.
The booking system in Victoria is a joke, complete disaster.

Called the hotline twice and it hung up on me both times
The website went in circles (make a booking button went did a loop - loop to nowhere).
When l did get through on the hotline (3rd time lucky), the next available booking was over a month away as l was working nightshift with 1 rotating day off per week.

Like l said before, the Government needs to put it's big boy pants on and bring in the military for assistance and do 24/7 hubs that can accomodate big numbers of people per 24 hours at several proper mass vaccinated hubs. Sydney convention centre with free 3 hour parking would be a good place to start, as it's probably sitting empty anyways...? What about drive in movies, and do drive through jabs like the USA?
Bring in the federal military for state run vac hubs, yeah right, ha.

You received an appointment a month away. That's standard, did you expect one a week away? They are prioritising 2nd jabs cos of supply limits.

I'd prefer to stay away anything the US do. For so many reasons.
 
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"Pfizer Gets Nod For Children - Jabs for our Kids - Exclusive - Drug regulator gives tick to Covid vaccine for young Aussies aged 12-16". Apparently Greg Hunt will make an announcement about this in the morning.

Yea great, let’s see how ATAGI fluffs this one up too. Zero confidence in them.
 
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Yea great, let’s see how ATAGI fluffs this one up too. Zero confidence in them.
Interesting to see the media outlets approach differently.

The Age/SMH encouraging/supporting PM querying advice. ABC admonishing PM for questioning ATAGI.
 
Gladys Berejiklian wants to see as many first doses as possible get into arms and more Pfizer for the young population to reduce the spread and help contain the virus.

This sounds like her push at National Cabinet today could involve requesting the gap between Pfizer doses be lengthened from 3 weeks out to 6 weeks.
 
Gladys Berejiklian wants to see as many first doses as possible get into arms and more Pfizer for the young population to reduce the spread and help contain the virus.

This sounds like her push at National Cabinet today could involve requesting the gap between Pfizer doses be lengthened from 3 weeks out to 6 weeks.

And perhaps for states like WA, TAS, NT to give up their vaccines for NSW
 
And perhaps for states like WA, TAS, NT to give up their vaccines for NSW
Whilst from a nation health perspective that would make complete sense, politically I can't see the Feds agreeing to that. The Feds need to minimise the losses in WA especially at the election that is less than a year away if they are to have any chance of retaining government.
 
Another death in NSW. Whilst the case numbers are remaining high the number of deaths is remaining low. The vaccine rollout is working. NSW isn't going to see the huge number of deaths seen in Victoria last year because the vulnerable age care residents have all had plenty of opportunity to be vaccinated and most have been.
 
Given that from the time of a vaccine being given to first protection is around 2 weeks, and then for both AZ & Pfizer is around low 30% effective - Gladys has made a "Clayton's Admission" that it is out of control in Greater Sydney. Just won't say that directly so it is clear & understood - this is very serious, NSW has lost control for some time now.

Treating the community as a group who 'cannot handle the truth' by constantly sugar coating/misleading people is counteractive as too many think; "Great, the Premier says we're on top of it so I've nothing to worry about. Time to nip out & get some....".

This was proven many times in the 1980s and 1990s with the RBA putting up cash rates and the Federal Treasurers & PMs would say, we're near the end of tightening & rates will start coming back down etc etc - so people would act rationally and not cut their borrowing/spending.

This latest, 'death of 1,000 cuts' move will not have any impact until mid to late August at best given the numbers involved.

Meanwhile asked why different households can exercise with one another (ability to be up to 10km from home & exercising with someone from another household), answer need to manage mental health considerations.

Then pushed, said that the high transmission is coming from going to shops/chemists and in workplaces.

Neglected to mention the 362 unlinked cases aka mystery cases which, for the first time, did not increase overnight.

Asked about having a curfew (like Melbourne) - not what our experts say to do. When pushed made it clear that none of those experts were 'medical'.
 
Is NSW doing any home quarantine compliance checks?

Today Victoria reported 17 people were caught being out & about with yesterday's random checks - these are the ones referred to the police, a subset of the total found to be missing. The others were either given a warning or had a valid reason.

Time for ankle bracelets? If you demand to be allowed back into your State then why shouldn't the quid pro quo be that you are closely monitored given the risks with delta?
 
The PR spin of incorrect/false claim has now infected the weekly releases on vaccine supply.


In a big boost to our rollout program, Australia will be receiving one million doses of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine per week from 19 Julytripling the current rate of supply.

The first part is true, yet a few lines further down...

500,760 doses of Pfizer vaccine, along with 281,500 doses of AstraZeneca vaccine produced onshore by CSL, prior to releasing the vaccines for distribution.

The current supply, that week, was over 500,000 Pfizer doses not 300,000 doses. The next week (July 19th) will be 1,000,000.

1,000,000 / 500,760 = near enough to 2 times or doubling the supply. Not tripling.

The July 19th report is delayed.

In the June 28th report started listing separately the number of 2nd AZ doses administered of 221k.
The July 5th report listed 2nd doses of 440k, and noted that it was now greater than 1st doses (1st time it had happened).

Stopped mentioning the number of 2nd doses, ratio to 1st etc since.
 
And perhaps for states like WA, TAS, NT to give up their vaccines for NSW

Can't see it happening. Vaccines are the way out lockdown, and for those states that will be a higher likelihood of continuing lock downs and hard border closures. Libs will be anihilated in QLD/WA if that's the case.
 

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