The COVID-19 vaccine rollout in Australia has begun

[Seat0B]

So long as the UK accepts Australian manufactured AZ, I don’t care too much what the others do.

And I'm pretty sure the UAE accepts anything as they were offering Chinese vaccines earlier this year!!

 

[Must...Fly!]

At 35m20s of today’s update on: JY: “I said I didn’t want 18 year olds to have AstraZeneca and I still don’t”.
Reporter “even now?”
JY “even now”.
Reporter “So what age should they get AstraZeneca?”
JY “60. Please, I don’t know how I can be clearer than this. If you are 60 years or older go and get your first dose of AstraZeneca if you haven’t already”.

My God

Maybe she should've gone to Japan

 

[Katie]

Mr Katie had his second jab (AZ, because he was an old fart before whoever said he was actually young and should get Pfiiiiizzzerrrr ) today. He's hoping his reaction will be less than the mild Man Flu he had for 24 or so hours after jab 1. He's tried not to be too peeved that my worst reaction to either jab was a sore arm, and maybe a headache the day after jab 2.

 

[louie-m]

Maybe she should've gone to Japan

And stayed there?!

 

[jonboixxx]

Yes QLD will be an issue for sure. The Uni of Melbourne's Vaccine Hesitancy Report Card shows vaccine hesitancy in Queensland at 30% as of 23 July. Perhaps that might shift a bit if the current outbreak gets worse, but honestly, how ridiculuous is it that first Vic, then NSW and maybe now QLD all had to get an outbreak and lockdown before vaccination rates picked up.

Vaccine Hesitancy Tracker

Vaccine Hesitancy Tracker

melbourneinstitute.unimelb.edu.au

All data is good, but when I watch that pictorial by state, those numbers move around a lot between intervals. On an n=1200, I'm not sure there is much to be gleaned from this report excepting Qld probably has somewhat more hesitancy due to the relative low impact of COVID (until now, maybe).

 

[Flying mermaid]

I’m not sure any of that is rational. Covid is more likely to spread to Canberra than it is to Ballina. With both locations off limits to Greater Sydney, neither is likely.

I think the rationale behind South Australia is that NSW people will sneak into Canberra and then use it to travel to other states. There was one case about a year ago, but it is all over the top.

 

[Flying mermaid]

Yep, heard that. She really dug her heels in

Well to paraphrase the old saying, those who can do, those who can’t become administrators

 

[Flying mermaid]

I was totally flummoxed today. I have a lady at playgroup who I have been gently encouraging to get vaccinated since early May. She is a bit over 60 and a smoker, so you would think have some concerns. Anyway today I asked her what she had decided to do and she said “oh no, I am going to wait until it’s been officially approved”. “Um - it has been?” Oh no that’s only because the government asked them to.” Took a deep breath and explained about emergency approval in the USA and how we had held off until TGA had done a normal approval etc etc. She then wanted to know why GPs weren’t doing it and you had to go to a state clinic. So then I went through supply issues and that GPs were but they didn’t have a lot and possibly her GP had elected not to.

I don’t easily admit defeat, but I don’t think I will try again…..

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Vaccinations yesterday:

 

[Deleted member 74239]

I'm interested. What dates have you got for each jurisdiction?

May be one or two States (clearly Territories have no issue at the moment) didn't want to commit to a timeframe.

But the PM has said there is enough vaccine to make Christmas

Nationally I get 7 November for 70%, 1 December for 80%.

I have NSW, Tasmania and the Territories achieving the targets before then:

ACT: 3 October for 70%, 22 October for 80%
NT: 5 October for 70%, 25 October for 80%
NSW: 20 October for 70%, 9 November for 80%
Tas: 3 November for 70%, 2 December for 80%

With other jurisdictions coming in after the national average is reached:

SA: 11 November for 70%, 7 December for 80%
Vic: 15 November for 70%, 13 December for 80%
WA: 20 November for 70%, 16 December for 80%
Qld: 18 December for 70%, 8 January for 80%

That is based on figures for vaccinations over the last 7 days, so of course doesn’t take into account a potential drop off in those figures due to supply issues, hesitancy, apathy etc.

 

[mviy]

1/3 of the 80% target (26.67%) has been done so far nationwide for 50+

90-94 is tantalising close to some major milestones. Now at 79.9% for first dose and 49.9% for 2nd dose.

We'll probably go past 20% fully vaccinated nationwide for 16+ mid this week, which is 1/4 of the way to the 80% goal.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Nationally I get 7 November for 70%, 1 December for 80%.

I have NSW, Tasmania and the Territories achieving the targets before then:

ACT: 3 October for 70%, 22 October for 80%
NT: 5 October for 70%, 25 October for 80%
NSW: 20 October for 70%, 9 November for 80%
Tas: 3 November for 70%, 2 December for 80%

With other jurisdictions coming in after the national average is reached:

SA: 11 November for 70%, 7 December for 80%
Vic: 15 November for 70%, 13 December for 80%
WA: 20 November for 70%, 16 December for 80%
Qld: 18 December for 70%, 8 January for 80%

That is based on figures for vaccinations over the last 7 days, so of course doesn’t take into account a potential drop off in those figures due to supply issues, hesitancy, apathy etc.

Thanks.

It might be stealing Flying Mermaid's thunder, but I wouldn't mind a regular (fortnightly?) update as I can't find a similar stat production, particularly how each State/Territory is projecting, at the usual spots (eg ABC, covidlive, Guardian)

 

[TheRealTMA]

We’re seriously still harping on about that boat? At a time when our border with the United States was fully open and covid was flooding into the country via our federally run airports?

NSW has managed to remain the most open to international arrivals (both passenger and freight) throughout this pandemic. There have been numerous “breaches” of hotel quarantine that would have led to 20 “short, sharp lockdowns” in every other jurisdiction. NSW had none and managed each of these through it’s effective contact tracing system.

Yes, the current situation escalated, but it’s still going a hell of a lot better than the solution in Melbourne. And this is with the “new, scary delta variant”.

And I say this as a card carrying ALP member who’d usually take any chance to take a cough on Gladys.

"Blah! Blah! Blah! This Is All Your Fault, Not Mine," Gladys Tells Sydney's Young People

More to come.

www.betootaadvocate.com

 

[Lynda2475]

I can't find a similar stat production, particularly how each State/Territory is projecting, at the usual spots (eg ABC, covidlive, Guardian)

CovidLive does provide this for the States (not for thr territories for some reason) albeit in a less user friendly format:

Nationally:



Then the states:

 

[oznflfan]

Nationally I get 7 November for 70%, 1 December for 80%.

I have NSW, Tasmania and the Territories achieving the targets before then:

ACT: 3 October for 70%, 22 October for 80%
NT: 5 October for 70%, 25 October for 80%
NSW: 20 October for 70%, 9 November for 80%
Tas: 3 November for 70%, 2 December for 80%

With other jurisdictions coming in after the national average is reached:

SA: 11 November for 70%, 7 December for 80%
Vic: 15 November for 70%, 13 December for 80%
WA: 20 November for 70%, 16 December for 80%
Qld: 18 December for 70%, 8 January for 80%

That is based on figures for vaccinations over the last 7 days, so of course doesn’t take into account a potential drop off in those figures due to supply issues, hesitancy, apathy etc.

Would love to see any of the above being true, but no way in on earth does any state ever get to 70% let alone 80% by end of this year. We will be extraordinarily lucky to get one state getting to 70% by mid 2022, but no-one will ever get to 80%.

'Risks' will change and between post May 2022 election and Christmas 2022 (and no-one getting to 80%) international borders will open to 'safe' countries, Europe, USA, good portion of Asia, worst case 7 days home quarantine*, best case no quarantine.

*Won't last long and will be token safety measure to start. Thing is most of these countries we can visit will have less virus than Australia by that stage, so what's the benefit in home quarantine?

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Would love to see any of the above being true, but no way in on earth does any state ever get to 70% let alone 80% by end of this year. We will be extraordinarily lucky to get one state getting to 70% by mid 2022, but no-one will ever get to 80%.

'Risks' will change and between post May 2022 election and Christmas 2022 (and no-one getting to 80%) international borders will open to 'safe' countries, Europe, USA, good portion of Asia, worst case 7 days home quarantine*, best case no quarantine.

*Won't last long and will be token safety measure to start. Thing is most of these countries we can visit will have less virus than Australia by that stage, so what's the benefit in home quarantine?

Covidlive is basing that on the 7day average of each dose, rather than knowing what actual future supply is.

ie NSW has recently been receiving extra Pfizer from the Fed Reserve. Will that continue?

From Oct Pfizer supply overall will step up, but equally that will most likely see AZ drop off.


And then on the demand side there are many unknowns as well.

ie

• Will the AZ surge in NSW keep increasing (in which case quicker), or will it slow (in which case slower).
• Will the vaccine hesitant start to limit what vaccinations are done? We have alsready seen that with AZ

 

[jakeseven7]

Nationally I get 7 November for 70%, 1 December for 80%.

I have NSW, Tasmania and the Territories achieving the targets before then:

ACT: 3 October for 70%, 22 October for 80%
NT: 5 October for 70%, 25 October for 80%
NSW: 20 October for 70%, 9 November for 80%
Tas: 3 November for 70%, 2 December for 80%

With other jurisdictions coming in after the national average is reached:

SA: 11 November for 70%, 7 December for 80%
Vic: 15 November for 70%, 13 December for 80%
WA: 20 November for 70%, 16 December for 80%
Qld: 18 December for 70%, 8 January for 80%

That is based on figures for vaccinations over the last 7 days, so of course doesn’t take into account a potential drop off in those figures due to supply issues, hesitancy, apathy etc.

Would love this to be true but suspect widely optimistic as current run rates are based on proactive people getting the jab. The rates will probably start to flatten as the early adopters fall off.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Would love to see any of the above being true, but no way in on earth does any state ever get to 70% let alone 80% by end of this year. We will be extraordinarily lucky to get one state getting to 70% by mid 2022, but no-one will ever get to 80%.

'Risks' will change and between post May 2022 election and Christmas 2022 (and no-one getting to 80%) international borders will open to 'safe' countries, Europe, USA, good portion of Asia, worst case 7 days home quarantine*, best case no quarantine.

*Won't last long and will be token safety measure to start. Thing is most of these countries we can visit will have less virus than Australia by that stage, so what's the benefit in home quarantine?

Would love this to be true but suspect widely optimistic as current run rates are based on proactive people getting the jab. The rates will probably start to flatten as the early adopters fall off.

Ok to hear different (opposing?) views, but don’t shoot the message/messenger which contained qualifications already. If we get a regular update, we might see how things are panning out.

 

[jakeseven7]

Ok to hear different (opposing?) views, but don’t shoot the message/messenger which contained qualifications already. If we get a regular update, we might see how things are panning out.

Not shooting the messenger. Desperately hoping those estimations are true. Like I said

 

[Pushka]

"Blah! Blah! Blah! This Is All Your Fault, Not Mine," Gladys Tells Sydney's Young People

More to come.

www.betootaadvocate.com

Well, she's right. If everyone stayed at home as requested then the virus has nowhere to spread. That's a fundamental principle in pandemic control.