The COVID-19 vaccine rollout in Australia has begun

[TheRealTMA]

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Answer: Hi Taylor, did you know the risk of blood-clotting when taking the female contraception pill is 1 in 1000, while the risk with the AstraZeneca vaccine is 1 in 100,000? You don’t see media campaigns blaming politicians about the pill being available for Australian women, do you? The risk of dying from cough is 1 in 20,000 but men still take it daily.

If you want to talk numbers, the chance of dying from being struck by lightning is 1 in 138,849, sunstroke is 1 in 8,248, a pedestrian incident is 1 in 543 and cancer is 1 in 7.

Remember – 30,000 Australians have blood clots every year, that’s 82 a day. It’s all about perspective."

Doctor sums up AstraZeneca risk perfectly

Welcome to Ask Doctor Zac, a weekly column from news.com.au.

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[jakeseven7]

Leading epidemiologist has just come out on ABC and directly criticised the QLD CHO and QLD health for poor communication, poor interpretation of official advice leading to the highest vaccine hesitancy rates in Australia.

And now QLD has slipped to dead last in the vaccine race… even WA has passed us… I mean how embarrassing…. That’s just horrific!

 

[oznflfan]

Not shooting the messenger. Desperately hoping those estimations are true. Like I said

Would love me a week in Malaysia/Thailand/Vietnam/Cambodia or anything similar in February 2022 for my birthday. Chances of this happening 20%.

Maybe somewhere in Europe July 2022, odds up to 50% for that happening.

Firm plans for June/July/August 2023 big Europe trip, thinking up to 90% chance for that.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Lieutenant General John Frewen in a TV new grab just indicated that there were already 1.5 million unused AZ doses already distributed (ie hence the Utilisation Rate in the GP Channel) waiting to be used, and another 1.5 million AZ doses that he also had ready to distribute.

So that is enough to fully vaccinate 1.5 million Australians.

 

[jonboixxx]

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[Pom-DownUnder]

One problem I see is the 80% national average thats required ahead of the state 80% to open to phase C. with the anchors of WA and QLD (wow Dr Young ... what a muppet) dragging down the average the motivated states like ACT / VIC / NSW are going to waiting on those before getting free.

 

[Flying mermaid]

One problem I see is the 80% national average thats required ahead of the state 80% to open to phase C. with the anchors of WA and QLD (wow Dr Young ... what a muppet) dragging down the average the motivated states like ACT / VIC / NSW are going to waiting on those before getting free.

I must admit WA and QLD are the states that worry me. Even a rampant optimist like me can see the drag they are going to be - particularly QLD with a big population.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

One problem I see is the 80% national average thats required ahead of the state 80% to open to phase C. with the anchors of WA and QLD (wow Dr Young ... what a muppet) dragging down the average the motivated states like ACT / VIC / NSW are going to waiting on those before getting free.

I must admit WA and QLD are the states that worry me. Even a rampant optimist like me can see the drag they are going to be - particularly QLD with a big population.

More like ACT, Tas, NT and NSW need to do more than 80% (with possibly SA and Vic just getting to 80%) for the nation to reach 80% just to open up and leave WA and Qld to remain locked up to work out their plan B.

 

[burmans]

Right. It took me about an hour (I’m slow) tonight to do a spreadsheet calculating when each State and Territory will reach the 70% and 80% targets, based on the current 7 day average of vaccination numbers. The federal government must know this (as you say, with greater accuracy), therefore the question seems to be why they won’t engage in a discussion about those timelines.

Don’t see the point, given it assumes the 7 day average will stay the same. Have a look at the graphs of vaccine take up across all the countries in the world and this assumption is not true for any of them. Almost all have a slow start, then start increasing until around 50% then start to slow down. Unfortunately their slowing down part varies by country, so hard to make any predictions as to what will happen here.

A spreadsheet such is yours is false science, if the assumptions are wrong the calculations are wrong but some including perhaps yourself will treat them as if they have some scientific value. However no true scientist would make that conclusion.

 

[Flying mermaid]

More like ACT, Tas, NT and NSW need to do more than 80% (with possibly SA and Vic just getting to 80%) for the nation to reach 80% just to open up and leave WA and Qld to remain locked up to work out their plan B.

The territories plus Tas have such small populations it won’t make much impact so NSW will have to carry the can. ACT already has 92% of over. 70s, so I hope that carries all the way down, but it still won’t do much to offset QLD

 

[burmans]

Well, don't forget the Australian government has to apply for it to be registered in other countries. They have not done that.

I’m sure they don’t see any rush if they aren’t allowing Australians to travel.

 

[dajop]

I'm still optimistic about the target of 80% of those eligible, once Pfizer starts flowing and requires less effort for younger people to get (less effort than having to talk to a GP to get AZ, which frankly is a significant barrier for many who probably can't be bothered).

There are precedents in other liberal democracies - 80% of Canadians have received their first dose, and Canadians are probably closer to Australia in their outlook than, for example the US (taken as a whole). Even with the difficulties with attitudes in the US, the states more aligned in outlook with Australia, Canada etc are edging close to 80% in first doses as well.

 

[jakeseven7]

Everyone is piling on the QLD CHO’s dangerous and incorrect advice (again). Petition apparently circulating for her contact end date to be brought forward…

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Queenslanders urged to strongly consider getting AstraZeneca vaccine, QLD Chief Health Officer stance labelled ‘concerning’
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Australia’s acting chief medical officer Michael Kidd has urged all Queenslanders to strongly consider getting the AstraZeneca vaccine, warning the outbreak now means the benefits outweigh the rare risk of blood clots.

Queensland’s chief health officer Jeannette Young insisted today she was standing firm on her advice that the AstraZeneca vaccine was best for over-60s only.

But just hours later, Professor Kidd contradicted her advice and urged younger Queenslanders to get jabs into arms as soon as they can, warning the outbreak had changed the risk profile.

Queenslanders urged to get AstraZeneca vaccine

Australia’s acting chief medical officer Michael Kidd has urged all Queenslanders to strongly consider getting the AstraZeneca vaccine, warning the outbreak now means the benefits outweigh the rare risk of blood clots.

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[lovetravellingoz]

I’m sure they don’t see any rush if they aren’t allowing Australians to travel.

Yes will just a be a matter of time.

The Australian made AZ is also now being used in a growing list of other countries.

 

[cove]

At Perth Airport on Saturday there was no waiting time to get a jab.

 

[jakeseven7]

All eyes on the UK then who used AZ exclusively? in the early stages.

UK are planning to boost with AZ as well as other vaccines. Think they start in a few months from memory.

 

[TonyHancock]

The UK Telegraph is reporting that up to 32 million booster shots will be given, beginning as soon as Sept 6 and being completed by early December.

 

[Lat34]

The UK Telegraph is reporting that up to 32 million booster shots will be given, beginning as soon as Sept 6 and being completed by early December.

Msg from UK friend tonight:
"Looks like we'll all be getting a 3rd booster shot here in the UK from September... Maybe you guys will let us in then!" (to AUS)

 

[mviy]

NewsCorp has "This is a race" on the Front Page of some regional papers tomorrow comparing the need to vaccinate to winning olympic races.

The Daily Telegraph "Labor plan to pay $300 to each vaccinated Australian" - "Albo's Cash for Jabs" - The payments would be for those who get fully vaccinated by December 1 and would be retrospectively honoured if the election is after that time.

The Australian "'Freedom incentives' to spur jabs" - "Scott Morrison will pursue 'freedom incentives' ahead of cash-payments ... new research ... warning that large financial offers and lotteries have had 'little to no impact on longer-term vaccination rates.'"

 

[mviy]

Oliver Peterson said his sister-in-law in her 30s went into a pharmac_ to get something for her 1 year old and was offered the AZ vaccine and she took it.

It's those kids of encounters where someone wasn't planning to immediately take the vaccine, but because in an unexpected moment it's suddenly convenient to take it immediately that could really help get the vaccine rollout the boost it needs in NSW.