The COVID-19 vaccine rollout in Australia has begun

[Tiki]

Long article in the New York Times about Australia/COVID/vaccination

Locked Down and Fed Up, Australians Find Their Own Ways to Speed Vaccinations (Published 2021)

A stubborn Delta outbreak has kicked a complacent country into gear, with community members working to fill gaps in the government’s sputtering vaccine rollout.

www.nytimes.com

Paywalled and I can't find it in the Apple News feed. Is there any other way to read this?

 

[jakeseven7]

Front Page of Tomorrow's Courier Mail: "COVID COURAGE" - "Youth defy warnings and get AZ jabs in growing numbers" - "Young Queenslanders have stated down the warnings about AstraZeneca, with thousands rolling up their sleeves... under-40s have rejected chief health officer Jeannette Young's hardline advice about AstraZeneca, with hundreds getting the vaccine on the day she told them not to."

Yup as I said there is outright rebellion against our useless (and allegedly corrupt now) CHO up here! I personally have booked another 4 mates into AZ slots this morning.

I’m now going through my Facebook friends 20 at a time and messaging them to see if they need help

Every little bit helps, every person who gets done tells someone else, massive snowball effect happen

 

[Pushka]

Not good.

He was in his nineties. Covid vaccination doesn't stop you getting the virus. A common cold in an aged person can lead to pneumonia - even just being stationary in bed can lead to pneumonia in the aged so of course aged people will still die of Covid if vaccinated. If he was in his fifties and vaccinated then I would be more concerned. Not to discount his life but having seen the aged living in nursing homes from Mum and grandmother, well, death occurs.

 

[Flying mermaid]

Not good.

At that age even a minor illness can be too much.

Post automatically merged: Aug 13, 2021

She may well change the goalposts, but she probably feels she needs to give people some hope to encourage them to get vaccinated or NSW will still be in lockdown come Christmas.

I am all for giving hope and it sure seems to have worked, but I listen to her pressers and she makes me nervous

 

[Pushka]

Seems we did need to have an outbreak after all according to Govt research to be discussed at the National meeting today.

"It comes as new Health Department research released on Thursday revealed in August, almost 80 per cent of Australians had either been fully inoculated or intended to be.

That's up by ten per cent since April, after Australia's first blood-clotting case linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine was recorded.

The market research also shows more than one-third of us also say the recent COVID-19 outbreaks have prompted us to consider getting vaccinated."

 

[bcworld]

Not good.

It's a vaccine, not an immortality serum!

 

[Oneworldplus2]

I know what your saying, but the anti or vax hesitant will be jumping on this to not get a jab.

 

[bcworld]

It's a vaccine, not an immortality serum!

...and that wasn't meant to sound harsh, but may have come across that way.

Those more in the know can correct me, but I believe that about one third of the residents in a high care aged care setting will die every year. I think that's where this gentleman came from?

 

[Pushka]

I know what your saying, but the anti or vax hesitant will be jumping on this to not get a jab.

I think just maybe wishful thinking, that the media are starting, baby steps, to be more responsible in reporting and that Joe Average would look at the age and put it into context.

 

[MooTime]

"It comes as new Health Department research released on Thursday revealed in August, almost 80 per cent of Australians had either been fully inoculated or intended to be.

Well with that 80% figure of intention to get the vac, then we can say we're as good as on 3rd base, Phase 3, just Father Time will get us there. Early December I hope.
No reason other than to have some open international borders for xmas & lift so many peoples spirits.

Those that don't intend to travel o/s & prefer those borders to stay closed, well enjoy your xmas with your family here.

 

[mviy]

The vaccine sentiment report indicates only 79% have either got vaccinated or intend to do so (was 70% back in July): Operation COVID Shield COVID-19 Vaccine Sentiment Summaries

Sure there is a margin for error and things will change but in my view it does seem to reinforce that the phase C targets are too high. The targets should be below what’s achievable so a date can be set to spur on the last say 10% of those who intend to get the jab.

79% isn't good enough. We really need the figure to be in the mid-80s to be confident of hitting the 80% target. You want a buffer there for some people who intend to get it to not actually get around to getting it.

Unless the government intends to say when we hit 75% say we project hitting 80% on X day, so that's when we are going to open up.

 

[Seat0B]

We need these icons as a set.
I support people's choice in this but be damned if their choice forms part of any Govt policy once everyone has had the full opportunity to be vaccinated.

Yes exactly this.

 

[Seat0B]

This absolutely sums up the SNAFU that is Australia. It makes me weep with rage about the time we have lost and the awful messaging from the various Govts (Federal and State) and the media with the impression that we had all the time in the world to get our cough together. We didn’t.

Let’s get this done and get us all jabbed as soon as possible.
Collectively we have done brilliantly in global terms keeping COVID out until there was a vaccine now let’s go the next step and learn to live with it as a safely immunized country who can return to participate in the world.

I totally agree with you @Princess Fiona. Only I weep with impotent rage, not just ordinary rage. I have never felt so powerless in my (privileged) life. And I do not like it one little bit.

 

[RAM]

I don’t know where you are getting your figures from but the actual numbers in Australia are
7.4 Million Doses of AZ and 6 deaths

Number of deaths you quote is 'Deaths from TTS'. There is one additional death from ITP.

From the report, near the top:

"The TGA has found that 7 reports of deaths were linked to immunisation from 447 reports received and reviewed. These deaths occurred after the first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine – 6 were TTS cases and one was a case of immune thrombocytopenia (ITP)."

There is more detail around 11 paragraphs/blocks below where the 6 deaths from TTS specifically are detailed.

Vaccines save lives
End of

7.4 million doses to w/e 8 August cover both the first and 2nd injections. What is relevant is the risk per person injected.

As reported the predominance of serious adverse reactions come with the first dose not the second.

I explained how the numbers were calculated in the post & provided the source report.

Vaccines do save lives, but currently about 1 in 21,000 people having their first AZ dose experience a serious adverse reaction. Not being anti-vax at all, being transparent. The risk of a serious adverse reaction in Australia according to this report for a 2nd injection is unknown (possibly zero) as no cases have been 'definitively linked'.

Anyone needs to be alert to the possible low risk and keep an eye out for the symptoms, not alarmed. But the risk is much higher than being bandied around in the media.

As TGA have now verified an adverse case from a 1st injection that was diagnosed 83 days later - people just need to be alert to monitoring for symptoms for longer than the common figure of 30 days shown in various mass media publications.

Half of adverse reactions were diagnosed within 12 days of the 1st injection and the other half between 13 to 83 days. As of Aug 1st the longest time to diagnosis was 54 days.

Correction: 4 lines up, incorrectly stated "As ATAGI" = wrong, should have been TGA.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Number of deaths you quote is 'Deaths from TTS'. There is one additional death from ITP.

From the report, near the top:

"The TGA has found that 7 reports of deaths were linked to immunisation from 447 reports received and reviewed. These deaths occurred after the first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine – 6 were TTS cases and one was a case of immune thrombocytopenia (ITP)."

There is more detail around 11 paragraphs/blocks below where the 6 deaths from TTS specifically are detailed.

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7.4 million doses to w/e 8 August cover both the first and 2nd injections. What is relevant is the risk per person injected.

As reported the predominance of serious adverse reactions come with the first dose not the second.

I explained how the numbers were calculated in the post & provided the source report.

Vaccines do save lives, but currently about 1 in 21,000 people having their first AZ dose experience a serious adverse reaction. Not being anti-vax at all, being transparent. The risk of a serious adverse reaction in Australia according to this report for a 2nd injection is unknown (possibly zero) as no cases have been 'definitively linked'.

Anyone needs to be alert to the possible low risk and keep an eye out for the symptoms, not alarmed. But the risk is much higher than being bandied around in the media.

As ATAGI have now verified an adverse case from a 1st injection that was diagnosed 83 days later - people just need to be alert to monitoring for symptoms for longer than the common figure of 30 days shown in various mass media publications.

Half of adverse reactions were diagnosed within 12 days of the 1st injection and the other half between 13 to 83 days. As of Aug 1st the longest time to diagnosis was 54 days.

Please stop.
You are taking all of this out of context.
The general public does not need messaging from you or anyone else about monitoring themselves for 83 days post vaccine.

Vaccines save lives.
End of

 

[Must...Fly!]

Vaccines save lives.

To that end

https://twitter.com/x/status/1425909612239196162

 

[JB expat]

Paywalled and I can't find it in the Apple News feed. Is there any other way to read this?

i will copy it in a few minutes

 

[jakeseven7]

I know what your saying, but the anti or vax hesitant will be jumping on this to not get a jab.

No worries they will find out the harder way and contribute to herd immunity by catching covid instead of getting a jab, I could care less.

We are all going to get it eventually - they will just be far more likely to die, suffer severe illness or have horrifying long term side effects of long Covid. All good, their choice.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

270,898 doses nationally through all channels.




170,462 doses !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GPs and Pharmacies are really cranking up now.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Paywalled and I can't find it in the Apple News feed. Is there any other way to read this?

Try this it might work
It’s the Facebook link to the story

The New York Times