Tiki
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Still reverts to paywall but at least now I can see the comments! Usually comments are better than the article! Thanks!
Still reverts to paywall but at least now I can see the comments! Usually comments are better than the article! Thanks!
but I listen to her pressers and she makes me nervous
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I had more power as a 10 year old (way back when). If I behaved and did the right thing I got pretty much what I wanted within reason for a child. I was not penalized for the actions of others.I totally agree with you @Princess Fiona. Only I weep with impotent rage, not just ordinary rage. I have never felt so powerless in my (privileged) life. And I do not like it one little bit.
It seems the process is to jump on a train and head north, and tell the police officer that you meant to get off earlier but fell asleep ...Now you have to think twice about shopping around because if you are in the wrong shop at the wrong time you are a close contact. If you are in the wrong LGA during a lockdown nothing can save you from being locked down. Not vaccine, not self-isolating, not mask wearing. Good bye domestic weekend away!
Still reverts to paywall but at least now I can see the comments! Usually comments are better than the article! Thanks!
I haven’t read it (probably should), but did they quantify “low”? What’s happening in Sydney would be considered low in some places.The problem with all the talk about targets is that the Doherty modelling was predicated on a low level of virus circulating in the community.
Hi Tiki - my good deed of the day, Ill send the articleStill reverts to paywall but at least now I can see the comments! Usually comments are better than the article! Thanks!
I haven’t read it (probably should), but did they quantify “low”? What’s happening in Sydney would be considered low in some places.
Was happier today as GB seemed to be much more talking about 70% and 80% rather than 6 million. NSW continues to vaccinate at an amazing rate and everyone seems to have increased numbers.
She did...and then she goes back to the 6 million end of August thing. It's a daily exercise in obfuscation. There's still not a single detail or even a clue about what could be considered at the end of August in a low case, 'high' vaccine area.Was happier today as GB seemed to be much more talking about 70% and 80% rather than 6 million.
The two go together I think - by the time we get to 80% fully vaccinated the over 70 and 60 stats should be very good.It is Ozzie low, and not UK low.
Personally I doubt 70% of over 16's vaccinated will keep hospitalisations low enough as unlike the UK we have not had 20% of the population having already had Covid. Well Ozzie low enough that is.. And I doubt 80% will either.
So here is hoping that we can get that the rate for overs 60s much higher than it currently is, and hopefully well over 80% as that will then help to minimise the number of deaths and really severe illnesses.
Currently 50.91% fully dosed for over 70s.
A bit off topic, but I do wonder about these figures. Not one person in my parents' circle of friends is thought to have had it. My sister's much wider circle - a friend's father-in-law sadly passed away from it and another double-jabbed friend has recently tested positive. Our friends from a lifetime in the UK until relatively recently - two families with some members thought to have had it in the very early days before testing was done. That's all that I know of anyway. Maybe some communities have had 20% (or more given that is an average) but no way 20% of my contacts.unlike the UK we have not had 20% of the population having already had Covid.
In the UK, even prior to vaccination, they have done a lot of antibody testing...a friend of mine participated fairly regularly and would get notified if he had antibodies after each test. Obviously they have only tested a sample of people, but presumably this has been used to extrapolate a number. I would assume there would be many who got a positive on antibodies who have never tested positive for covid.A bit off topic, but I do wonder about these figures. Not one person in my parents' circle of friends is thought to have had it. My sister's much wider circle - a friend's father-in-law sadly passed away from it and another double-jabbed friend has recently tested positive. Our friends from a lifetime in the UK until relatively recently - two families with some members thought to have had it in the very early days before testing was done. That's all that I know of anyway. Maybe some communities have had 20% (or more given that is an average) but no way 20% of my contacts.
Dr FM worked in London all of last year. Her flatmate went home for Christmas and not only managed to catch Covid but gave it to a large number of his friends and family. She said Covid was particularly bad in multi generational families living together, where the younger members had to go to work, and then brought it back and gave it to the older members, who were generally the ones that died. I think certain areas were more affected than others e.g. towns in the North.A bit off topic, but I do wonder about these figures. Not one person in my parents' circle of friends is thought to have had it. My sister's much wider circle - a friend's father-in-law sadly passed away from it and another double-jabbed friend has recently tested positive. Our friends from a lifetime in the UK until relatively recently - two families with some members thought to have had it in the very early days before testing was done. That's all that I know of anyway. Maybe some communities have had 20% (or more given that is an average) but no way 20% of my contacts.
Please stop "correcting" figures that are not wrong. Such as my post #4,953 on the weekly vaccine report that there are now 7 deaths related to the AZ vaccine first dose. It is hard to take the reports exact text out of context when I post the entire section.Please stop.
You are taking all of this out of context.
The general public does not need messaging from you or anyone else about monitoring themselves for 83 days post vaccine.
Vaccines save lives.
End of
More info on the UK antibody testing is here:In the UK, even prior to vaccination, they have done a lot of antibody testing...a friend of mine participated fairly regularly and would get notified if he had antibodies after each test. Obviously they have only tested a sample of people, but presumably this has been used to extrapolate a number. I would assume there would be many who got a positive on antibodies who have never tested positive for covid.