The Dark side of Japan Tourism.

[prozac]

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Really, I don't have any influence. It just opens. Using Firefox.
Are you using a VPN?
Just tried Chrome and it does not open. @Buzzard try switching to Firefox.

 

[drron]

i'm using Firefox and it opens.

 

[Pushka]

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Buzz, are you signed on when you've tried to open it? If so, maybe log out and then try.

 

[Buzzard]

Buzz, are you signed on when you've tried to open it? If so, maybe log out and then try.

I'll give that a go.

 

[Pushka]

By the prosecution whose case was about the period of the accident and not the period prior to the accident when he got the alerts. Basically they said he knew he had low blood sugar when he rammed into the beer garden. But at the time he was obviously in a coma with a sugar level of 1.1 and so he could not have known that he was heading toward the pub. Of course does not excuse the fact that as a long term diabetic he should have known better and not driven. But the magistrate said the prosecutions case was not about that

Isn't that like saying you were speeding up to the accident but at point of impact you werent speeding (because you'd crashed!) so the speeding beforehand isn't taken into account? I expect the prosecution simply didn't present it properly in evidence.

 

[Quickstatus]

but at point of impact you werent speeding

Slightly different in thos case as the prosecutor was of the view that when blood sugar was 1.1 the driver was still voluntarily driving.

 

[love_the_life]

So to finish off. First the letter I received from DFAT. At the end is their list of English speaking lawyers. I simply had the first on the Sapporo list.
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thanks for the info drron - interesting to read the DFAT letter.

 

[Drakecula]

I'm all caught up now. All I can say is holy moly! I'm currently in the middle of finalising bookings of hotels in Japan (not Hokkaido) and while I wasn't intending on hiring a car, I am still a little on edge after this story. I'm so glad you're out and safe. How terrifying for everyone.

 

[Chicken]

A man in Japan who had been sentenced to death and held in prison for 50+ years, is now sent for re-trial.

tl;dr
- police fabricated the evidence
- when defense lawyers pointed to expert evidence, and asked for a re-trial, the prosecutor objected the request for a re-trial
- even thou re-trial is a thing in the legal system, there is no guideline on the process.

Detailed article : Japan court acquits man over half a century after he was sentenced to death (NHK 26 Sep 2024)

video news : Japan court acquits man decades after death sentence (NHK 26 Sep 2024)

 

[Quickstatus]

video news : Japan court acquits man decades after death sentence (NHK 26 Sep 2024)

That occurs too in every jurisdiction in the world

 

[pagingjoan]

Last week, in Hiroshima, we were on a local train, when it was involved in a suicide.
Not uncommon in Japan, alas. (The suicide, that is. Not our witnessing of the event.)

But, with DrRon’s recent experience in my mind constantly during our travels on this visit, I could not help wondering what the unfortunate train driver would be experiencing.
Hideous, for all connected, in any way - the family, the train crew, emergency workers etc.

With that significant exception, our trip through the southern region was brilliant.

 

[prozac]

Last week, in Hiroshima, we were on a local train, when it was involved in a suicide.
Not uncommon in Japan, alas. (The suicide, that is. Not our witnessing of the event.)

But, with DrRon’s recent experience in my mind constantly during our travels on this visit, I could not help wondering what the unfortunate train driver would be experiencing.
Hideous, for all connected, in any way - the family, the train crew, emergency workers etc.

With that significant exception, our trip through the southern region was brilliant.

Had a cousin who did same with a non-stopping train at a little station in Europe.

 

[pagingjoan]

Had a cousin who did same with a non-stopping train at a little station in Europe.

The response from the Railway team and Emergency Services was impressive.
The first responders were on site within minutes. All up, we estimated some. 40 people involved in the process.
Our train was delayed almost two hours but there would have been a web of affected services, given the location.
A sad business.

 

[Chicken]

That occurs too in every jurisdiction in the world

No, not really. The video actually compared the situation in Japan against some other countries, and what those countries had done to address similar issues.

 

[Quickstatus]

No, not really.

Yes really. Wrongful convictions occur everywhere including Australia where they hace occured due to State misconduct other factors. In fact it is clear that all the reasons for wrongful convictions around the world have occured in Australia as well.

And in the US

 

[Chicken]

Yes really. Wrongful convictions occur everywhere including Australia where they hace occured due to State misconduct other factors. In fact it is clear that all the reasons for wrongful convictions around the world have occured in Australia as well.

We are not talking about wrongful conviction here, we are talking about how the legal system deal with known wrongful convictions. Big difference

 

[Quickstatus]

we are talking about how the legal system deal with wrongful convictions.

And its the same here... and elsewhere.

 

[Chicken]

And its the same here... and elsewhere.

They are 2 very different things.

 

[Ouabain]

Same in rural India and rural China.

Our company policy, even for locals, is if you are involved in accident, where you can continue your journey do so and head straight to the police station to report, but do not ever stop. Or an angry mob could kill you.

Had an employee in China hit and kill a motorcyclist, who apparently drunk had just come straight onto a four lane highway into the path of our employee who had know chance to stop. News got around and soon there was violence on our employee. Saved by the police who locked him up for a week until (we presume) his family bribed his way out of it. Our HR wanted to fire the guys backside immediately, but luckily a foreigner (from US) was in the passenger seat, and another vehicle behind him with another local and foreigner who saw the whole thing happen and said our guy wasn't speeding and had no chance to stop.

Can be the same in Rural Australia tbh....