The Pinot Noir & Grenache Thread

[qaz]

Gembrook have just released the 2nd vintage (2018) of the IJM pinot, sold exclusively through their website.
Also, the inaugural vintage of the JKM pinot.
both $85.

Gembrook Hill I.J.M. Pinot Noir 2018 - MB96

both 2018 Gembrook Hill IJM and JKM (GW94) are $69 each at Prince Wine Store

 

[Doctore1003]

Hey guys, I made the mistake of introducing my partner to Burgundy red at a restaurant last night, and now he wants MORE.
I don’t normally like to spend more than $50 on wine but I recognize that’s not enough for good burgundy. Can anyone recommend good value for money options or other tips, eg pinot from other regions?

 

[TheRealTMA]

Hey guys, I made the mistake of introducing my partner to Burgundy red at a restaurant last night, and now he wants MORE.
I don’t normally like to spend more than $50 on wine but I recognize that’s not enough for good burgundy. Can anyone recommend good value for money options or other tips, eg pinot from other regions?

New Zealand Central Otago, Morning Peninsular and Tasmania are good sources of excellent Pinot. $50 will buy you a nice one.

 

[Doctore1003]

New Zealand Central Otago, Morning Peninsular and Tasmania are good sources of excellent Pinot. $50 will buy you a nice one.

Thanks, I get a lot of pinots from there - but the hubby wants more burgundy ones, so I’m looking for tips on good value for money options, knowing they will cost more than $50. By "other regions" I meant other French regions producing a similar style (eg Alsace).

 

[Jczer000]

Thanks, I get a lot of pinots from there - but the hubby wants more burgundy ones, so I’m looking for tips on good value for money options, knowing they will cost more than $50. By "other regions" I meant other French regions producing a similar style (eg Alsace).

Unfortunately, no easy answer. Work is required to find value. General tips:
- Cote de Beaune better value generally that Cote de nuits (Pommard and Volnay are traditionally good examples of the ends of the spectrum).
- Cote Chalonaisse and Maconnais are cheaper than the above but more known for whites
- Cru Beajoulais is your friend!

 

[TheRealTMA]

Thanks, I get a lot of pinots from there - but the hubby wants more burgundy ones, so I’m looking for tips on good value for money options, knowing they will cost more than $50. By "other regions" I meant other French regions producing a similar style (eg Alsace).

Ok. IMHO, I don’t think there’s any good French Burgundys under around $100. Buy one or two, Bouchard Père & Fils, or maybe Jean Grivot, or some Nuits St George to try. Available in Australia but one has to pay a bit through the nose for them then let them mature for some years. Essentially I’ve given up on French Pinot in Australia, fine when you are in France or Europe, but the ones from previous post and more approachable younger and better value. YMMV!

 

[georgehall]

Thanks, I get a lot of pinots from there - but the hubby wants more burgundy ones, so I’m looking for tips on good value for money options, knowing they will cost more than $50. By "other regions" I meant other French regions producing a similar style (eg Alsace).

I buy a case a year from Domaine Hubert Lamy out of St Aubin. St Aubin is more known for white Burgundy but the reds are excellent value. See if you can track down some producers from that area, it represents some of the beat quality to price.

 

[qaz]

Mount Mary Pinot Noir 2018 - JH98, GW96 - $137.83 delivered @ The Wine Collective after $9.95 delivery, 8.8% Cashrewards, $20 voucher - cheapest yet - 4 left

$130.19 @ Dan's after 4% Cashrewards, 5% off WISH - shame that I didn't know earlier when 10% Cashrewards to save another $7.77 - 30 bottles available, possibly price beat Wine Emporium

 

[qaz]

glad to hear, somewhat surprised that everyone here didn't buy all the HD/Clos before the TWC email went out on Wednesday and there was still stock - the best time for both of you should be in more than a few years

Grape Belief clearance sale ends tonight - free delivery with $240+ spend - includes:

• 2019 Chatto Tasmania Pinot Noir $36.50 - GW95
• 2019 Garagiste Merricks Pinot Noir $35 - CM(WF)95
• 2019 Place of Changing Winds Clos de la Connerie Pinot Noir $72 - CM(WF)/MB95
• 2019 Tonic Wines Grenache $25.50 - GW95
• 2016 JC’s Own Originale Grenache $27.50 - MB94+
• 2018 Spinifex La Maline Shiraz $50 - CM(WF)96
• 2018 Frankland Estate Alter Weg Riesling $24.50 - MB96
• 2018 Cobaw Ridge Chardonnay $46 - MB96

 

[qaz]

Mount Mary Pinot Noir 2018 - JH98, GW96 - $137.83 delivered @ The Wine Collective after $9.95 delivery, 8.8% Cashrewards, $20 voucher - cheapest yet - 4 left

$130.19 @ Dan's after 4% Cashrewards, 5% off WISH - shame that I didn't know earlier when 10% Cashrewards to save another $7.77 - 30 bottles available, possibly price beat Wine Emporium

$120 @ Grape Belief - 6 bottles

True, but hopefully the highest-ever rated Beaujolais on Winefront, and equal-highest gamay with Sorrenberg's 2017, might come close:

• Domaine Marc Delienne Avalanche de Printemps Fleurie 2018 - MB96 - $54 @ Waters Wine Company

$53.10 @ Different Drop using TUES10 for 10% off - ends next Tuesday

Dan's clearance continues with new wines reduced, the highlight being Lethbridge 2017 for $33.20 - however at Parkdale, besides champagne, before discounts:

• Lethbridge 2017 - MB/SC(HWC)95, CM(WF)94, NS93 - $19
• Gembrook Hill 2017 - CM(WF)96, JH95 - $28

To maintain clearance prices, don't buy store stock (in-store/click+collect), as when that's gone, so is the clearance price - instead, deliver to Parcel Collect at the store's nearest post office (Parkdale LPO here)

In case anyone's interested, my favourite/biggest/best buys of the 2017 vintage have been Bay of Fires, Felton Road Bannockburn, Hoddles Creek, Lethbridge

2017 Gembrook Hill Estate Pinot Noir - CM(WF)96, HH/JH95, NS93:

• $46.55/$49 @ wine4u (free delivery with $300+ spend)
• $49.99 @ The Wine Collective (plus $9.95 delivery, less 8.8% Cashrewards, $20 voucher) - 12 bottles

 

[qaz]

In terms of value and quality, two names that spring straight to mind are Yangarra and Head - 2018 Head Old Vine Grenache is probably my current favourite

Yangarra Estate Old Vine Grenache 2019 - CM(WF)/AG/AH/SL95 - $28 @ Cloudwine, $29.95 delivered @ myCellars (pm for free delivery code)

Review: Yangarra Old Vine Grenache 2019. Just. Perfect.

I didn’t try this Yangarra Old Vine Grenache 2019 side-by-side with the High Sands and I wish I did, as this apprentice would really take it up to the old vine master. That’s purely because this wine has an innate […]

www.ozwinereview.com

Yangarra Estate Vineyard Old Vine Grenache 2019

For fans of grenache, Yangarra's Old Vine release is generally a wine to stock up on every year. Made from vines planted in 1946, it is not only fantastic

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Yangarra Estate Old Vine Grenache 2019

Yangarra Estate Old Vine Grenache 2019

www.qwinereviews.com

 

[qaz]

Tasmania: Pinot Noir from the island with latitude

Find out what’s special about Tasmania and why it’s such a hotspot (or rather cool spot!) for Pinot Noir.

www.wineaustralia.com

Thanks, I get a lot of pinots from there - but the hubby wants more burgundy ones, so I’m looking for tips on good value for money options, knowing they will cost more than $50. By "other regions" I meant other French regions producing a similar style (eg Alsace).

Unfortunately, no easy answer. Work is required to find value. General tips:
- Cote de Beaune better value generally that Cote de nuits (Pommard and Volnay are traditionally good examples of the ends of the spectrum).
- Cote Chalonaisse and Maconnais are cheaper than the above but more known for whites
- Cru Beajoulais is your friend!

@Doctore1003 did you buy any of the Piron Beaujolais Morgon the other month?

Archive: Jean-Marc Burgaud Online Beaujolais Tasting @ 6.30-8pm AEDT Wednesday 18th November - bookings due next Monday
6 x 50ml samples - $50 delivered (including interstate):

• 2019 Beaujolais Villages Vignes de Lantignie
• 2018 Regnie Les Vallieres
• 2017 Morgon Les Charmes
• 2016 Morgon Cote du Py
• 2016 Morgon Cote du Py Javernieres
• 2014 Morgon Cote du Py Javernieres

 

[qaz]

2018 By Farr RP or Tout Pres Pinot Noir $101.94 delivered @ The Wine Collective after 8.8% Cashrewards and $20 voucher - free delivery ends midnight AEDT - also available is 2019 Felton Road Bannockburn Pinot Noir $69.99 before cashback/discount

Summer Hill have Felton Road magnums available, including 3 of 2019 Block 3 for $300/$350

The Changing Face of Grenache Virtual Wine Tasting @ 6-7pm AEST next Wednesday 18th November - order before this Friday
6 x 50ml 59.00 or 6 x 100ml $79.00 + $20 delivery:

• Thistledown 2020 ‘Gorgeous’ Grenache Rosé Riverland, SA
• Thistledown 2018 ‘Thorny Devil’ Grenache, Barossa Valley, SA – Single Vineyard
• Thistledown 2019 ‘She’s Electric’ Grenache, Seaview, McLaren Vale - Single Vineyard
• Thistledown 2019 ‘Sands of Time’ Grenache, Blewitt Springs, McLaren Vale. SA – Single Vineyard
• Thistledown 2019 ‘This Charming Man’ Grenache, Clarendon, McLaren Vale, SA – Single Vineyard
• Thistledown 2019 Advance Release ‘Mattschoss’ Grenache Eden Valley, SA – Single Vineyard

ADL: Grenache Fest @ The Market Shed on Holland - 4.30-6.30pm / 8-10pm this Saturday - $38.01 for 6 mini-masterclasses

Templestowe Cellars - free tastings, bookings required:

• Annual Pinot Noir Exhibition: 4-8pm Friday 20th & 10am-5pm Saturday 21st November (confirmed)

• 2019 Giant Steps Applejack Vineyard Yarra Valley
• 2019 Moores Hill Tasmania
• 2018 Bream Creek Tasmania
• 2018 Domaine A Stoney Vineyard Tasmania
• 2019 Ghost Rock Supernatural Tasmania
• 2019 Ghost Rock Estate Tasmania
• 2018 Frogmore Creek Tasmania
• 2020 Frogmore Creek 42 Degrees South Tasmania
• 2017 Pipers Brook Tasmania
• 2018 Kooyong Estate Mornington Peninsula
• 2018 Palliser Estate Martinborough New Zealand
• 2018 Craggy Range Martinborough New Zealand
• 2017 Craggy Range Te Muna Road Vineyard
• 2018 Maude Central Otago New Zealand

 

[billbro]

Oops almost missed the free shipping promo!

 

[qaz]

True, but hopefully the highest-ever rated Beaujolais on Winefront, and equal-highest gamay with Sorrenberg's 2017, might come close:

• Domaine Marc Delienne Avalanche de Printemps Fleurie 2018 - MB96 - $54 @ Waters Wine Company

$53.10 @ Different Drop using TUES10 for 10% off - ends next Tuesday

now $50.15 @ Different Drop after 15% off at checkout - ends 1pm AEDT tomorrow - also:

Hoddles Creek 1ER 2019 - GW95, JO93 - $50 @ Boccaccio (not yet online) - also in-store (possibly phone as well):

$42.50

Swinney Grenache 2019 - MB96+ - $42 singles delivered direct

$35.70

 

[qaz]

Coldstream Hills Reserve Pinot Noir 2012 - JO/CM(WF)96 - $61.67 delivered in 6pk @ CellarDoor.co after $20 welcome voucher - 14 left

Stonier: 2019 (CM(WF)/HH92) $16.50, 2019 Reserve (JH97, CM(WF)/HH95) $40.58 @ Cellar One delivered in 6pks after $20 referral

Bought half dozen Sam Neil Two Paddocks and half dozen of Duncan’s Mount Edward Pinot.

The Mount Edward just blows away the Two Paddocks, surprisingly. Two Paddocks is one of my favourite CO pinots but the recent one is on the light side. Hopefully will improve over time..

Mount Edward is just lovely drinking now, will be impressive in a year or two.

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I had the Mount Edward on the weekend - incredible wine

Mount Edward Pinot Noir 2017 - NS96, MB95 - $49.50 @ Wine Experience, $49.99 @ wine.com.au

Great Value Wines: New Zealand Pinot Noir for less than $35 - JamesSuckling.com

Wine reports from the internationally acclaimed wine critic and journalist

www.jamessuckling.com

The Macedon Ranges’ ripostes to Burgundy

www.jancisrobinson.com

JR17.5:

• Place of Changing Winds, High Density Pinot Noir 2019 Macedon Ranges

JR17+:

• Curly Flat, Western Pinot Noir 2018 Macedon Ranges

JR17:

• Place of Changing Winds, Clos de la Connerie Pinot Noir 2019 Macedon Ranges (Red Wax, Late Bottling)
• Curly Flat Pinot Noir 2018 Macedon Ranges
• Curly Flat Pinot Noir 2017 Macedon Ranges
• Curly Flat Chardonnay 2018 Macedon Ranges

JR16.5:

• Place of Changing Winds, Between Two Mountains Pinot Noir 2019 Macedon Ranges
• Curly Flat Chardonnay 2017 Macedon Ranges

In terms of value and quality, two names that spring straight to mind are Yangarra and Head - 2018 Head Old Vine Grenache is probably my current favourite

Head Old Vine Grenache 2019 - GW94, HH91 - $32 @ Summer Hill / WineSquare in 6pk - 2020 James Halliday Grenache Challenge Winner
also $33.95 delivered @ myCellars (pm for free delivery code) - price match @ Cloudwine / Different Drop

McLaren Vale Grenache: Old vines, new ways

Virtual master class on McLaren Vale Grenache moderated by Sarah Ahmed, with Giles Cooke MW and David Gleave MW as guest speakers.

www.wineaustralia.com

Grenache and Garnacha redesigned

www.jancisrobinson.com

McLaren Vale Grenache today

www.jancisrobinson.com

JR17.5:

• S C Pannell, Old McDonald Grenache 2017 McLaren Vale
• Thistledown, This Charming Man Single Vineyard Grenache 2018 McLaren Vale

JR17:

• Thistledown, Sands of Time Old Vine Single Vineyard Grenache 2018 McLaren Vale
• Yangarra, High Sands Grenache 2017 McLaren Vale
• Ministry of Clouds Grenache 2018 McLaren Vale

JR16.5:

• Bondar, Rayner Vineyard Grenache 2019 McLaren Vale
• Thistledown, She's Electric, Old Vine Single Vineyard Grenache 2019 McLaren Vale
• Willunga 100, The Hundred Clarendon Grenache 2017 McLaren Vale

JR16+:

• Willunga 100, The Hundred Blewitt Springs Grenache 2018 McLaren Vale
• Aphelion, The Confluence Grenache 2018 McLaren Vale

JR16:

• Wirra Wirra, The Absconder Grenache 2018 McLaren Vale

JR16-:

• Bekkers Grenache 2017 McLaren Vale

 

[qaz]

Swinney Grenache 2019 - MB96+ - $42 singles delivered direct

Yangarra Estate Old Vine Grenache 2019 - CM(WF)/AG/AH/SL95 - $28 @ Cloudwine, $29.95 delivered @ myCellars (pm for free delivery code)

Review: Yangarra Old Vine Grenache 2019. Just. Perfect.

I didn’t try this Yangarra Old Vine Grenache 2019 side-by-side with the High Sands and I wish I did, as this apprentice would really take it up to the old vine master. That’s purely because this wine has an innate […]

www.ozwinereview.com

Yangarra Estate Vineyard Old Vine Grenache 2019

For fans of grenache, Yangarra's Old Vine release is generally a wine to stock up on every year. Made from vines planted in 1946, it is not only fantastic

winepilot.com

Yangarra Estate Old Vine Grenache 2019

Yangarra Estate Old Vine Grenache 2019

www.qwinereviews.com

3 of each for $203 delivered ($33.83/bt) @ Waters Wine

Swinney vs Yangarra Grenache Mixed Pack | Waters Wine Company | Buy Now!

Swinney v Yangarra Grenache Mixed Pack - Two top-rated, boutique Aussie Grenaches for you to compare. Waters Wine Company. Buy Now!

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Swinney Frankland River Grenache 2019

The rise of Australian Grenache continues across the country and Swinney have come out of nowhere to stake a claim for Western Australia and the Frankland

winepilot.com

 

[qaz]

MEL - Winestyle: Pinot Noir Masterclass with De Bortoli's Sarah fa_an via Zoom @ 5.30-7pm Tuesday 24th November
7 x 65ml samples + Riedel Pinot Noir Glass = $30 delivered

 

[Jczer000]

MEL - Winestyle: Pinot Noir Masterclass with De Bortoli's Sarah fa_an via Zoom @ 5.30-7pm Tuesday 24th November
7 x 65ml samples + Riedel Pinot Noir Glass = $30 delivered

Already in for $30 with free Riedel but any idea what the wines are? Are they all De Bortoli?

 

[billbro]

Shame it's Melbourne only, otherwise, I would have jumped right in.

Might try and see if I can arrange my own delivery!

Actually looks light it might not be Melbourne only, just have to pay for shipping... was confused by the description, oops!