The Platinum One Briefing

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I gave them my 2 cents worth, golf, epiQure and invites have been of no value to myself. I also suggested that confirmed upgrade requests for medium and long haul could be introduced at the time the request was made or upgrade credits could be (re)introduced. I also suggested that domestically R4 should be blocked for P1 and CL until flight closure rather than opening at T-80. It is a personal annoyance that if I have to book a short notice flight e.g. for the next couple of days or ask to fly forward being offered seats in what seems to be R8 and back and only B or E is not very appealing.
 
I also suggested that domestically R4 should be blocked for P1 and CL until flight closure rather than opening at T-80.
I'm sure you'd love that change but as a WP I'd find that a big devaluing of holding WP status. The ability to select row 4 at T-80 as a WP I find a huge help. I'm usually one of the first to be served food on the plane (which is a help especially on short sectors e.g. MEL-SYD) and don't have my knees in the back of a seat in front the whole flight so I arrive feeling a lot better than I otherwise would.
 
Even though I used to ask for them regularly, the more I think about it the less in favour of seat blocks and shadows as a P1 benefit I am. Too many variables - full flights, airport staff agreeing to requests, seats required for mobility impaired pax and other legitimate reasons. Just a source of frustration when they don't stick.

Great when it happens, but not a tangible / certain enough benefit to rely on. I will continue to suggest they focus on specific, guaranteed benefits.
 
1.- Overall it was a pleasant surprise that they have created this, and I like that they are finally being proactive in enhancing in some way the P1 experience. (I mean via the newsletter, not the passes, etc) Previous to this the main benefit I saw was they they help out as much as they can when things go wrong - this is a step in a positive, non-reactionary way to make P1 something nice.

If I was in their marketing team, having an regular EDM sent to the segment of high-value regular flyers who are also of value to a large number of other corporations and brands would be my strategy too..
 
2 lounge passes hasn't changed my view that I'm not going to bother aiming for WP1, via DSC or any other method!
 
I'd highly advise anyone considering aiming for P1 to focus their attention elsewhere once they reach Gold as there really is bugger all benefits to anything above SG at this point.

P1 is the biggest joke of a 'benefit' tier I have ever come across.
To me the biggest benefits of P1 are moving faster towards LTG (if you don't already have it - the sooner you get that the better) and the soft landing back to WP and then in a later year if WP is not retained back to SG. The vast majority of my flying is on QF so there's not much point in me pursuing partner airline programs unless that changes dramatically.

Put it this way say I was about $2k of flying away from P1 from flying I'd do anyway, I could spend that ~ $2k to get there then try to go on points for international long haul the next year rather than cash fares or take a risk on the upgrade lottery and still drop back to WP. Whereas I could spend several thousand more than $2k retaining WP the next year.
 
I'd highly advise anyone considering aiming for P1 to focus their attention elsewhere once they reach Gold as there really is bugger all benefits to anything above SG at this point.
Still a few benefits at Platinum that interest me before they get enhanced.
 
P1 is the biggest joke of a 'benefit' tier I have ever come across.

I can understand the sentiment, and the two lounge passes addition to the stated benefits is, quite frankly, embarrassing, but I think you might be a little harsh.

When P1 was launched I don't think it was ever intended to be a Tier to strive for. It was seen as a tier that provided support for the most frequent flyers, particularly if things went awry. As time moved on one or two tangible benefits were offered. (I wondered if this was because nobody, QF or customers, actually knew what its was all about.)

In my opinion P1 is caught in no mans land. QF needs to decide what P1 is all about. Is it a genuine Tier? If it is then tangible benefits need to be added. If it is not then QF needs to make it clear.
 
I can understand the sentiment, and the two lounge passes addition to the stated benefits is, quite frankly, embarrassing, but I think you might be a little harsh.

When P1 was launched I don't think it was ever intended to be a Tier to strive for. It was seen as a tier that provided support for the most frequent flyers, particularly if things went awry. As time moved on one or two tangible benefits were offered. (I wondered if this was because nobody, QF or customers, actually knew what its was all about.)

In my opinion P1 is caught in no mans land. QF needs to decide what P1 is all about. Is it a genuine Tier? If it is then tangible benefits need to be added. If it is not then QF needs to make it clear.

Surely there is some kind of option for LTP if you reach P1 regularly - let's for argument say, 3 times in a five year period. That might be something to aim for and it recognises the significant loyalty that this requires to achieve it.
 
I can understand the sentiment, and the two lounge passes addition to the stated benefits is, quite frankly, embarrassing, but I think you might be a little harsh.

When P1 was launched I don't think it was ever intended to be a Tier to strive for. It was seen as a tier that provided support for the most frequent flyers, particularly if things went awry. As time moved on one or two tangible benefits were offered. (I wondered if this was because nobody, QF or customers, actually knew what its was all about.)

In my opinion P1 is caught in no mans land. QF needs to decide what P1 is all about. Is it a genuine Tier? If it is then tangible benefits need to be added. If it is not then QF needs to make it clear.

I think this is a really good summation. The fact that they even called it PLATINUM One suggests the same. It's not Diamond or Black or Turpentine or anything it's almost part of Platinum just the level of acknowledgement/reward for all the extra travel (I kind of see it as a stepping stone much like the 2400 SC level is).

Should one strive for it as an end? No I don't think so. White's such a dull colour! :D However if one flies that much then sure give some stuff.

In the context of other "premium" tear levels like GGL or AA CK or whatever yes the benefits are not great and the 2 guest passes don't add much to this, but it's sure better than nothing, and the fact that they can be used for the Flounge unlike any other class of guest pass that I am aware of (I know they used to issue paper F lounge passes though) they have a special "extra" significance = which is appropriate for this level of benefit.

We can but hope they add more. This is a step in the right direction. A small step, but a step nonetheless.

As for the P1 level being a "joke" or something... I think it really can be quite subjective. On paper absolutely it doesn't stack up to some of the other offerings, but I know of several members who have received SST assistance to get them out of jams in far off places, and like acts, who likely would say it's far from a joke and been worth it.. just as there are many here who, overall, have found the value to be "lacking" .... I feel it can very much come down to one's experiences and situations they are in as to how they view ANY product or service and blanket comments are probably not that constructive.

For example in 4 years (so far) of P1 membership I've luckily never really been in a spot where I've HAD to call on the SST to help in some sort of crisis or ask for anything much... had a couple of event invites and some op ups.. probably average experience for most members... am I overwhealmed? Not really, but again I've not been in a spot (which is a great thing really!) where I've had cause to experience the hopefully higher levels of what the SST can/should do. If I was and they let me down then I'd have a far more negative impression... or if they went over and above I'd probably rave. to me it's subjective.

To me the biggest benefits of P1 are moving faster towards LTG (if you don't already have it - the sooner you get that the better) and the soft landing back to WP and then in a later year if WP is not retained back to SG. The vast majority of my flying is on QF so there's not much point in me pursuing partner airline programs unless that changes dramatically.

huh?

You could earn 3599 SC in a year and be "moving faster towards LTG" - it's not a benefit of P1 per se, but a benefit of the sum of the SC's earned. It's not like gaining P1 gives you extra bonus credit towards LTG.

Most P1's, certainly those here, have had LTG for a long time, so it's not really relevant anyway.
 
Surely there is some kind of option for LTP if you reach P1 regularly - let's for argument say, 3 times in a five year period. That might be something to aim for and it recognises the significant loyalty that this requires to achieve it.

Bring it on. I'd take that!! However QF have said often they have zero plans for LTP

of course with the change of leadership of Loyalty I suppose things could change, but I doubt it.

It certainly would be nice to have.... either for reaching P1 X times, or a large LTSC earn - even 28k (double LTG) or something would at least make sense.
 
If I reached P1 and was asked what benefits I'd like to see I'd ask for LTP and mention that without that to aim for there'd be little incentive to rack up huge SC counts after reaching LTG. I can understand QF not wanting to crowd the Dom J and international FLounges, but then giving lounge invitations to P1s will increase the numbers in the lounges.
 
Can a P1 guest two into the F lounge currently?
One guest is the defined benefit. However if the lounge wasn't close to capacity they'd probably let them take the extra guest. The one-off lounge invitations can be used when the P1 member isn't present however e.g. they could be given to a couple that's going on a honeymoon.
 
One guest is the defined benefit. However if the lounge wasn't close to capacity they'd probably let them take the extra guest. The one-off lounge invitations can be used when the P1 member isn't present however e.g. they could be given to a couple that's going on a honeymoon.

Is it two for domestic J?
 
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Unlike for the International Lounges, guests do not need to be travelling with a WP/P1 to access the Domestic J Lounge.

I thought QF had backed down on that and OW rules apply.

You'd think QF would allow two F Lounge guests for P1's. (Mind you the SYD & MEL F Lounges can become horribly crowded at times.)
 
....When P1 was launched I don't think it was ever intended to be a Tier to strive for. It was seen as a tier that provided support for the most frequent flyers, particularly if things went awry...

Tony, that is a concept I had never previously considered, but I completely agree.

We here on this forum are enthusiastic about benefits, tiers, loopholes, etc. But that is us.

I do not know the "average profile" of a P1, but they travel a stack. They probably couldn't give two hoots about lounge passes and so forth. The service that the P1 team does in helping as much as can be when things go pear shaped is probably the most valuable thing that all p1's want (all, as in not just us travel enthusiasts)

I COMPLETELY agree that P1 is not a tier that is intended to be strived for. If attaining it means extra spend, status runs, DSC, etc, the additional "benefits" are just not designed for that.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
 
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