To Tattoo or Not To Tattoo

[nickykim]

Don't like tattoos at all, swore I'd never have any. But I had four involuntuary tattoos as radio therapy markers and subsequently got two voluntary tattoos - one to cover the radiotherapy tattoo in the middle of my chest that showed above my neckline (and the other on the reconstruction). So I guess - never say never.

 

[Buzzard]

One of my customers has tattoos, extended ear lobes (or whatever it is you call them), and some studs in his lower lip.
He is one of the nicest customers I have. Always happy, well mannered, polite etc etc. I'll take 10 of him instead of one toff in a business suit that thinks he/she is better than somebody else.

 

[Walter_Plinge]

That is a terrible shame. From what I have seen, you are a caring and genuine person. I actually encouraged someone quite close to me to get a tattoo. It has given them a bit more strength than they previously had. Maybe you need another tattoo to remind you not to take on board other people's nastiness

A swastika on his forehead?

 

[Moody]

People are taking some comments WAY too seriously. Some friends think I am mentally defective for riding a motorcycle, and on one level they are right - I am far more likely to suffer a fatal road accident. But I know that if I had to suffer the Sydney traffic in a car, there is a good chance I would go postal and take a few with me. So it is the lesser of two evils. Maybe tatts are the same for other people - if they didn't get them they would just self-harm in some other way.


But it annoys me that I had to move on from a great barista because her tattoos were more than I could stomach.

 

[Foreigner]

Slightly OT, how about those toupees! Wearers of bad toupees are often ridiculed for most are recognised as fakes.

 

[robd]

Both my dogs have tattoos, but fortunately they're in a discreet place so you can't see them (what would the neighbours think?).

I actually think they both calmed down a bit after they got their tattoos. I still love them anyway

 

[Walter_Plinge]

- if they didn't get them they would just self-harm in some other way.

Interesting - the same thought occurred to me while reading this thread.

I believe tattoo removal is big business these days.

 

[Walter_Plinge]

Slightly OT, how about those toupees! Wearers of bad toupees are often ridiculed for most are recognised as fakes.

Indeed. But is there such a thing as hairpiece that's not recognisable as fake? John Kerry, an extremely wealthy man, can't seem to do any better than anyone else.

While on the subject of male vanity and hair, what about Grecian 2000 users? That's just as bad. You can pick it a mile off. There's nothing sadder than a 70 year old with totally jet-black hair.

 

[Foreigner]

Indeed. But is there such a thing as hairpiece that's not recognisable as fake? John Kerry, an extremely wealthy man, can't seem to do any better than anyone else.

While on the subject of male vanity and hair, what about Grecian 2000 users? That's just as bad. You can pick it a mile off. There's nothing sadder than a 70 year old with totally jet-black hair.

There's penchant for jet black hair in China, among its top leaders in particular.

 

[JohnK]

Interesting - the same thought occurred to me while reading this thread.

I believe tattoo removal is big business these days.

There's an English tattoo artist opposite the golf bar/restaurant I frequent in Pattaya. I couldn't help but notice one of his services was Tattoo Cover-up and another service was Tattoo removal.

Would this slogan be out of place? "Get'em when you're drunk, remove them when you're sober!"

 

[nickykim]

My daughter got a very small tattoo on her back when she was in Frankfurt on her gap year. The tattooist told her the ink was "new" and was more amenable to removal by laser at a later date. It is just one colour (dark blue).

Maybe its this...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/InfinitInk

 

[Ghostdunks]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

I made a point earlier about the number of Reality Tattoo shows on TV.

There is a limit to how much advertising is allowed over a period on TV. To me these shows are as close to 'product placement' advertising as you can get. On the whole they portray Tattoos as a wonderful thing to have. There is one show that portrays the drawbacks but then it switches to how an even bigger tattoo is the only (implied) solution.

That is what I dislike. To me the bulk of these shows represent undisclosed advertising and should be regulated as such (includes false, misleading, deceptive or deliberate obfuscation of claims made).

As it currently stands they get off scot-free.

Just out of curiosity, do you feel the same way about the abundance of cooking shows(Masterchef, My Restaurant Rules, etc..) or home renovation shows(The Block, House Rules, etc.)? Because there's a ton more "advertising" and product placement going on in these shows.

 

[RAM]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

Just out of curiosity, do you feel the same way about the abundance of cooking shows(Masterchef, My Restaurant Rules, etc..) or home renovation shows(The Block, House Rules, etc.)? Because there's a ton more "advertising" and product placement going on in these shows.

To some extent with some of the cooking shoes, and to a lesser extent with the reno shows.

The cooking shows are not (generally) advertising or pushing a potentially dangerous or socially disadvantaging product. The serving sizes are (normally) not large nor the food too unhealthy. One cooking show was notorious some years back for the amount of butter in every dish but that was the exception.

With some, the product placement "Cheese anyone" - The Bachelor - had our family vowing never to buy that brand as it was so fake in the way it was pushed. How odd all parents of the women had that cheese on display....

The reno shows in some ways can be a public service - showing the true position/reality of renovation - the disasters, stress, dust etc.

Both cooking and renovation can be fixed without major consequences to one's health. A binge eating show on the other hand would not be acceptable - one of the channels has something close to it with two guys travelling round trying to beat the 'binge' eat challenges.

For example, search "biggest loser" US lawsuit - to see the 'true' reality of what goes on with making any of the TBL shows. Permanent organ damage, permanent spinal injuries etc.

TBL is dangerous.

 

[SeatBackForward]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

Just out of curiosity, do you feel the same way about the abundance of cooking shows(Masterchef, My Restaurant Rules, etc..)

They're not about cooking.

or home renovation shows(The Block, House Rules, etc.)? Because there's a ton more "advertising" and product placement going on in these shows.

They're not about renovations.

All these shows are purely about the human element, in particular the voyeur effect they provide, especially the smug factor ones that let the viewer say "boy I'm glad that's not me". The "content" being the renovation, cooking, weight loss or truck driving is merely a convenient backdrop that they hope provides the differentiation from the others.

 

[whatmeworry]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

Croatian women in Bosnia-Herzegovina during Ottoman times got tattooed with crosses to dissuade Turks from selling into slavery.
The Croatian Tattooed Grandma Cult | VICE | United States

 

[samh004]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

Wait till the tattoo removal ones follow in a few years time.

They essentially already have them, but they cover bad tattoo's with better tattoo's. It's essentially removal.

 

[RAM]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

They essentially already have them, but they cover bad tattoo's with better tattoo's. It's essentially removal.

Sounds like something the tobacco companies would put out.

I disagree - you don't remove asbestos by dumping more of it on top.

Camouflaging a no longer wanted tattoo with a larger or bolder one is not removal - you still have a tattoo.

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[Ghostdunks]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

To some extent with some of the cooking shoes, and to a lesser extent with the reno shows.

The cooking shows are not (generally) advertising or pushing a potentially dangerous or socially disadvantaging product. The serving sizes are (normally) not large nor the food too unhealthy. One cooking show was notorious some years back for the amount of butter in every dish but that was the exception.
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The reno shows in some ways can be a public service - showing the true position/reality of renovation - the disasters, stress, dust etc.

Then I would contend that you're not against undisclosed advertising as such, as your original post made it out to be, you're just against undisclosed extra advertising for stuff you don't agree with or what you personally feel is false or misleading.

Personally I feel that the cooking/reno shows are much much worse when it comes to product placement advertising, subtle or otherwise. Along with the "cheese placement" you mentioned, if a show is sponsored by Woolies, "oh hey, here's a custom mini-store we've built up, selling all the stuff you need to cook the dish, along with all the woolies branding that goes along with such a store". Or if a show is sponsored by Mitre10, numerous mentions during the show of "oh, lets pop down to the Mitre10 store to get some more pieces of wood/screws/fittings/etc". If you want to be outraged by product placement/advertising going on during a show, you should be outraged by that.

I don't have any real issue with it, as sponsors are needed to help pay the costs of making the show so I accept it as part of the costs of being able to watch such shows. However, you seem to be specifically targeting the tattoo reality shows for excessive advertising because you don't agree with the product they're selling. Which is fine for you to have that opinion, but don't hide it behind claims of undisclosed advertising when they are other types of shows that are much worse examples of this, but get a pass because the content of these shows are socially acceptable to you.

 

[Ghostdunks]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

They're not about cooking.

They're not about renovations.

All these shows are purely about the human element

Not going to argue against that. Its at those parts of the show that I turn away and do something else until they get back to the proper content(IMO), whether I'm watching a cooking reality show, renovation reality show, or tattoo reality show. I want to see how a particular dish is put together, the skill and materials involved in doing a particular reno, or the artistic depiction of a piece of artwork as its being inked onto skin. I couldn't care less about the sob story behind a particular tattoo, or crying because of the stress of cooking a particular dish, etc..

 

[straitman]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

They asked me why I don't have Tattoos.

I said to them: Do you see a Ferrarri with bumper stickers :?: