Tokyo Haneda slot - how will Virgin Operate it?

[flightformula]

Off topic but I'm somewhat curios to know what sort of income this type of "content creation" generates? I see he has about 2200 subscribers with each video commonly getting 300 or so views, or even up to about 1,000. That can't translate to much money?

I'm the guy that made the video above lol

I don't quite have the CPM figures for my Virgin Aus video but can tell that it'll generally be anywhere from $4-7USD per 1000 views.

For the last few months, The Global Peasant has been getting 20-30k views a month so I'd expect his earnings to be low hundreds a month. He's definitely self funding it all at the moment but it looks like his channels growing so hopefully he can make some good money soon!

Re Noel Phillips, he's definitely making way more than 50-100k LOL. My complete guess would the whole channel is bringing in $300k-500k, he's spending maybe half of that on production and an editor etc and then walking away with north of $200k+ a year. That's a complete guess though! I'll let you know what the numbers are if I ever get that big!

 

[N860CR]

Re Noel Phillips, he's definitely making way more than 50-100k LOL. My complete guess would the whole channel is bringing in $300k-500k, he's spending maybe half of that on production and an editor etc and then walking away with north of $200k+ a year

What a world we live in. Someone who masticates loudly into a mic and rants often without substance can pull in half a mil.

 

[dajop]

What a world we live in. Someone who masticates loudly into a mic and rants often without substance can pull in half a mil.

Been like that for many many years. Well before YouTube was even invented. As just one example I’ll take a good number of YouTubers, over Carl Stefanovic anyday. But maybe I’m too young too appreciate Carl, I’m only in my mid 50s. And let’s not get into some of the radio “shock jocks” or reality TV.

In the context of the posted video, good on them for having a go. Was actually nice to see a fairly plain review rather than another whiner or drama queen travel reviewer.

 

[Happy Dude]

What a world we live in. Someone who masticates loudly into a mic and rants often without substance can pull in half a mil.

I tend to agree somewhat. I find it unbelievable that money can be made posting "content" that no-one asked for or generally even needs, even for the most mundane of activities.

 

[Happy Dude]

I'm the guy that made the video above lol

I don't quite have the CPM figures for my Virgin Aus video but can tell that it'll generally be anywhere from $4-7USD per 1000 views.

For the last few months, The Global Peasant has been getting 20-30k views a month so I'd expect his earnings to be low hundreds a month. He's definitely self funding it all at the moment but it looks like his channels growing so hopefully he can make some good money soon!

Re Noel Phillips, he's definitely making way more than 50-100k LOL. My complete guess would the whole channel is bringing in $300k-500k, he's spending maybe half of that on production and an editor etc and then walking away with north of $200k+ a year. That's a complete guess though! I'll let you know what the numbers are if I ever get that big!

Interesting observations dude, thanks. And welcome.

At the risk of taking this even further off topic, can the views be 'gamed' in any way? I'm thinking that maybe bots can be run to continually "view" a post? I ask because more than a million different people watching something like Noel Phillips seems incredible. I'd never heard of him (not surprising) and stopped watching after a few minutes.

 

[flightformula]

Interesting observations dude, thanks. And welcome.

At the risk of taking this even further off topic, can the views be 'gamed' in any way? I'm thinking that maybe bots can be run to continually "view" a post? I ask because more than a million different people watching something like Noel Phillips seems incredible. I'd never heard of him (not surprising) and stopped watching after a few minutes.

not really anymore, yall just hate Noel Phillips, if you don't like him don't watch, I don't like all his stuff but generally find him a pretty good watch.

 

[twinaisle]

not really anymore, yall just hate Noel Phillips, if you don't like him don't watch, I don't like all his stuff but generally find him a pretty good watch.

Personally can't stand his videos and some others. I skip straight away but each to their own

 

[hachoo]

I'm the guy that made the video above lol

Recently subbed because of your Cathay Pacific video (I had very similar opinions about the carrier having flown them in J within SEA mid last year).

To your video, I hard agree that the value proposition mentioned towards the end of the video that the service when using velocity frequent flyer points is very low. If you scout google travel, you can get some very low fare pricing in 'J' on the route and when you compare other carriers in the alliance (such as SQ/QR/NH) the points are better spent elsewhere. One thing the route does have is decent availability which if you were short on dollars and needed to use the points, that is a positive. That isn't really playing the points game though is it.

RE Noel Phillips - I watched his content previously because he has flown more obscure routes and other smaller carriers which I found interesting. As others have said, each to their own. I don't watch Sam Chui or Non Stop Dan for differing reasons but they have very large followings.

 

[Happy Dude]

not really anymore, yall just hate Noel Phillips, if you don't like him don't watch, I don't like all his stuff but generally find him a pretty good watch.

I do find the whole influencer/content creator phenomena interesting, even though I'm not a consumer, so it's good to know how some of it works from a player.

Re Noel Phillips, hate is way too strong a word. Just not interesting to me, but clearly others think otherwise. I do find the filming in airports and of security personnel a bit disconcerting (but not illegal I'm sure) and the talking/filming with others nearby on board to be inconsiderate, disrespectful even, of the surrounds. That's not limited to him of course, or even to content creators.

 

[serfty]

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This thread's topic is "Tokyo Haneda slot - how will Virgin Operate it?".

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[elanshin]

Speaking on this slot,

Isn't it up dor renewal in a few months time?
Do you all think VA will manage to convince the authorities that they should keep it?

 

[trisreed]

Speaking on this slot,

Isn't it up dor renewal in a few months time?
Do you all think VA will manage to convince the authorities that they should keep it?

Already done and dusted (approved): Japan - 15 January 2024

 

[AIRwin]

Qatar Airways Adds Virgin Australia Japan Codeshare From July 2024 — AeroRoutes

Published at 0700GMT 03JUN24 Qatar Airways from July 2024 plans to expand codeshare partnership with Virgin Australia, as QR-coded flight numbers to be displayed on Virgin's Tokyo Haneda – Cairns route. Planned codeshare service on this sector is scheduled from 04JUL24. VA078/QR6360 HND2155 – 0

www.aeroroutes.com

 

[jpp42]

Qatar Airways Adds Virgin Australia Japan Codeshare From July 2024 — AeroRoutes

Published at 0700GMT 03JUN24 Qatar Airways from July 2024 plans to expand codeshare partnership with Virgin Australia, as QR-coded flight numbers to be displayed on Virgin's Tokyo Haneda – Cairns route. Planned codeshare service on this sector is scheduled from 04JUL24. VA078/QR6360 HND2155 – 0

www.aeroroutes.com

That's interesting, I wonder commercial segment that's targeted at. Is this for tourists on multi-city itineraries, i.e. something like [Europe]->DOH->[AUS]->CNS->HND->DOH , someone visiting Australia and Japan in the same trip?

 

[elanshin]

That's interesting, I wonder commercial segment that's targeted at. Is this for tourists on multi-city itineraries, i.e. something like [Europe]->DOH->[AUS]->CNS->HND->DOH , someone visiting Australia and Japan in the same trip?

More likely airline political signalling than anything practical for customers right now. I highly doubt anyone would actually want to do such a convoluted route.

Probably more warning shots at QF than anything else right now.

 

[HS-TQE]

Would've thought UA would be a better codeshare candidate on HND-CNS on multi-trip itineraries (e.g West Coast USA - Japan - Australia (North Queensland) - South East Asia - etc).

 

[The-Aviator]

More likely airline political signalling than anything practical for customers right now. I highly doubt anyone would actually want to do such a convoluted route.

Probably more warning shots at QF than anything else right now.

Agree, I think they're just trying to prove they are serious about Australia and deserve extra slots.

Still, funny to imagine people booking this and traveling Qsuites all the way from Europe only to board a VA 737 for the last leg

 

[justinbrett]

Probably more warning shots at QF than anything else right now.

Warning of what exactly?

I don't think their partner JL will be too happy with the competition

 

[Must...Fly!]

Could be an interesting marketing angle. In theory it would allow QR to market Australia and Japan in one trip with no back tracking to lots of ME and EU markets.

 

[MooTime]

Still, funny to imagine people booking this and traveling Qsuites all the way from Europe only to board a VA 737 for the last leg

Yeah funny, just as we travel to Europe in J then board a 737 to city of choice on last leg. What a crazy scenario.

I don't believe Qatar care much for Qantas, it's more about claiming the PR move of flying Aus pax in hope of gaining slots.