Uber drivers at CNS routinely cancelling rides to manipulate surge pricing

[Aussie_flyer]

At least it works well in MEL, they can't refuse you as you're already in the car with bag loaded before they know where you are going (at the uber rank)

 

[Pigg]

Let's be accurate here. We are not saying it is the cancellation that causes surging, but the act of accepting a ride to reduce supply, when you have no intention of delivering the service. Uber's website says "Surge pricing automatically goes into effect when there are more riders in a given area than available drivers." I don't know about you, but I would think that a driver that has accepted a ride then they are no longer available. Now, whether this causes a surge or not, clearly drivers are accepting and cancelling until the price goes up. They are starting to give Uber drivers the same reputation of the taxi drivers that facilitated Uber's rise in the first place.

All you have said is "it doesn't happen" - no evidence, no theory as to why drivers are cancelling. What is there motivation? Enough people have told you it happens at CNS but you want to deny it. You are typical of the occasional one issue wonders that come on this website in a poor PR attempt (last week we had someone defending a travel insurance company) and you will soon disappear.
In terms of me cancelling the occasional trip, I have explained a reason why. You only have a few minutes to cancel so normally I wouldn't inconvenience a driver too much. (In fact, those 15 minute waits are often because the driver is in the processing of finishing another trip so it makes no difference to them.) If Uber's algorithm worked better I wouldn't have to do it. Unlike drivers I can be penalised for inconveniencing them. A shame it doesn't go both ways.

It's also a shame that you still can't read. I have never said that "cancellations" don't happen as you implied, i said that cancellations don't cause a surge. I also told you the percentage of cancellations i receive per day, most of which are when i am already on my way to the rider so costing me time, money and wear and tear so stop surmising that you know how ut works. As for being a oe tie commenter on this forum, i have been a member for a long time but don't feel the need to comment on things that do not effect me unlike some of the factless, know it all grumps on here who ignore the actual facts to suit their own agenda. Cya, out of this thread till another comes along that i feel the need to comment on.

 

[Pigg]

This thread so motivates me to use public transport or the shuttles to and from airports where possible!!
If the behaviour of tax drivers deliberately cancelling rides is true, that is (criminally) distorting the market,
Personally I would be quite happy with the state based taxi boards banning taxi drivers from being rideshare drivers. Yes restraint of trade, but on the other hand how many hours a day should people be driving anyway for safety reason!!
If only we could tag the ACCC into this thread.

Interesting how several Cairns Uber drivers are creating AFF accounts to comment here's - which is totally fine and welcome to all. This topic must be trending outside of AFF

Welcome to AFF @AjMcN . Confirms my suspicion that there is coordination between some Uber drivers of operating apps.

Interesting how several Cairns Uber drivers are creating AFF accounts to comment here's - which is totally fine and welcome to all. This topic must be trending outside of AFF

Welcome to AFF @AjMcN . Confirms my suspicion that there is coordination between some Uber drivers of operating apps.

Some of us have been members for a long time, we just don't feel the need to comment on every subject. Most rideshare drivers don't even know any other drivers so your theory doesn't work on here the same as the false theory about cancellations causing a surge. If only the riders cancelling caused a surge i would be a much wealthier man! Au revoir, until my next comment on a subject that interests me.

 

[Pigg]

Hi I’m a Uber driver in cairns and we have our own group. It’s not the legit drivers it’s actually the taxi drivers, they all have two phones and accept a Uber ride only to cancel and they all do it together knowing that the customer will get upset and decide to go to the taxi rank which is now directly across the road.

I will admit that their are Uber drivers that do pretty much the same to try and create a surge for a larger fare. I have had some of them come up to me after I have dropped a passenger offf at the airport and have gone to the waiting area and ask me to turn my app off.

Cairns airport and Uber moved the waiting area and the pickup area so now for both waiting and pickup we are directly opposite each other and since then the surge tactic is even worse as so many of the one group know each other and work both Uber and taxi and have access to both.

Just recently most taxis in cairns have placed a sign on their vehicles saying No Surge Charges.

After 25 years as a GM for a very respectful company I drive to pass time while my partner is working and as I’ve travelled to 27 countries I love picking up tourists from all around the world.

Happy to discuss and open up all the honest drivers know.

The Uber app when we drop someone at the airport tells us how many Ubers are waiting in line before you, so often it will tell me 1-5 and there is 18 in the queue.

Regards

A

Thanks for the sensible comment, i'm a longstanding driver in Cairns also but certain posters on here are still taking me to task as they don't want to believe facts that don't fit their agenda. Just in case you didn't know. Us top drivers skip the airport queue so it doesn't matter how many are there waiting.

 

[Pigg]

Very often this week there has been a surge on in the city and none at the airport, this will happen more and more now the holiday/convention season is starting up. Is that because drivers are cancelling? No, it's because there are a limited number of drivers and taxis. Simple.

 

[markis10]

Thanks for the sensible comment, i'm a longstanding driver in Cairns also but certain posters on here are still taking me to task as they don't want to believe facts that don't fit their agenda. Just in case you didn't know. Us top drivers skip the airport queue so it doesn't matter how many are there waiting.

You could do well to follow the spirit and intentions of that post, your comments to me as a member of 20+ years don’t seem to be in the spirit of this site.

Most rideshare drivers don't even know any other drivers so your theory doesn't work on here

We won’t mention the Uber Cairns Drivers Facebook group then
Maybe you should try fixing the falsehoods on reddit that have been going for years on the same subject

https://www.reddit.com/r/Cairns/comments/1flwgk7/uber_drivers_wth

https://www.reddit.com/r/Cairns/comments/ywpbud/why_is_uber_so_crap_in_cairns_drivers_constantly

Uber in Cairns does have some redeeming features, I caught one from the Hilton to the airport on the day before Melbourne Cup in 2021 and the driver waxed lyrical about Verry Elegant, which I didn’t have in the frame for my bets, put $100 on which subsequently paid for my vacay the previous week in Cairns.

 

[Pigg]

You could do well to follow the spirit and intentions of that post, your comments to me as a member of 20+ years don’t seem to be in the spirit of this site.


We won’t mention the Uber Cairns Drivers Facebook group then
Maybe you should try fixing the falsehoods on reddit that have been going for years on the same subject

https://www.reddit.com/r/Cairns/comments/1flwgk7/uber_drivers_wth

https://www.reddit.com/r/Cairns/comments/ywpbud/why_is_uber_so_crap_in_cairns_drivers_constantly

Uber in Cairns does have some redeeming features, I caught one from the Hilton to the airport on the day before Melbourne Cup in 2021 and the driver waxed lyrical about Verry Elegant, which I didn’t have in the frame for my bets, put $100 on which subsequently paid for my vacay the previous week in Cairns.

I said "most" rideshare drivers don't know any other drivers, i hardly think a Facebook group of twenty five members out of hundreds of drivers puts my fact to rest eh? But thanks for confirming my thoughts on your own agenda, just because you've been a member of the group longer doesn't make you anymore right in your thoughts. Au revoir, got better things to do now.

 

[Rich]

. I have never said that "cancellations" don't happen as you implied

I never implied that at all. if you look at the context of my "never happens" comment:

All you have said is "it doesn't happen" - no evidence, no theory as to why drivers are cancelling

Clearly we are both saying cancellations happen. The question is for what purpose. I think we both know.