Underwhelming experience

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So - I'm sitting on a 10am CNS-BNE right now and decidedly disappointed with my markedly "average" experience.

Nothing really "wrong" - but nothing to make me feel that I made the correct decision to pay a premium to fly QF today over DJ. (other than the 91st bonus points - although I made the booking prior to that).

Before I start I have to admit that all of my flights to/from CNS in the last cpl of years have been at peak times (05:30, 12:00, 19:30 or similar). This is my first "snack" time flight on this route in a while.

In fairness - most of my to/from CNS flights do leave me feeling like a valuable customer.

1/ MEAL

Qantas - there was not $1 of difference in my fare whether I chose the 05:30 or the 10:00 departure - so why should I choose you when I get offered a snack that was literally two small heart-shaped cookies where the packaging probably costs more than the cookies. The other option was a small carrot cupcake that was smaller than my niece's fairy-bread at a recent party.

Seriously - its cough - no other word for it. If I'm paying a premium to fly QF on a 2 hr flight - I at least want the option of some Neil Perry inspired slop. Or at least a wrap or yoghurt cup perhaps or something.

In the olden days (when AN was around) you could at least get a decent meal in the QP, now you can't get much. Especially in a place like CNS with no J lounge.

There wasn't even an offer of a top up for my coffee. So it's not just the smaller food offering (I can even understand the rationale for this - on business routes like SYD-MEL at off-meal times), but it was a genuinely reduced "service offering".

All my other QF flights on this route I remember an ice cream or similar offering as a follow up service later in the flight as well.

Not that I'm hungry - but I just feel "ripped off". Rightly or wrongly - but it just "feels" that way.

And if you are going to offer a reduced service - the price should be discounted to reflect this.

Which leads me to my next point....

2/ STAFF

Maybe I've been spoilt - but all my other flights on this route (QF and DJ) have had staff that smile, appear to make an effort, have a visible CSM who seems and sounds (on the PA) genuine.
And - more often than not - at least make a small token effort to acknowledge me as a WP. (This may be as little as a pleasant smile and greeting on boarding, perhaps a name greeting on food service (I'm in 4C), or occasionally the CSM actually says hi in passing... "thank you for your loyalty......blah blah".

I'm not a DYKWIA, but you know what?

I've spent a heap of time and money to earn (and retain) WP, and things like a friendly name greeting on boarding cost $0.00, but it does make me feel a little valued - even if it is token.

The staff seemed generally disinterested, even offering the headsets came across rushed, disinterested, and much like the stereotypical "I'm making a coffee - would anyone else like one?" (where it's plain that you're hoping and expecting that no one will rudely actually say yes).

That's how she came across to me as well.

The meal service felt the same as did the rubbish collection.

For the record - the staff didn't do anything wrong, the flight was normal.

Also - the flight was 98% full and I had 4C and a shadow (although I suspect it was 4A's shadow). Which I appreciate.
But you know what - as a WP, I expect to be able to sit in row 4. Because TBH, that's one of the main reasons I choose QF over JQ for instance.
Now that DJ offers me row 3, and they come with the bonus of genuine warmth and courtesy from the FAs..... Well, let's just say that I felt underwhelmed enough that I'm considering if I should have just saved the money and chosen DJ..??

Both options give me SCs and points - so that's not a winner for either.

So in summary - I got what I paid for, there was nothing "wrong" with anything on the flight........ It's just that it was underwhelming enough for me to write this rant, post online, and draw VA's and Red Roo's attention to it.
 
Also - the flight was 98% full and I had 4C and a shadow (although I suspect it was 4A's shadow). Which I appreciate.
But you know what - as a WP, I expect to be able to sit in row 4. Because TBH, that's one of the main reasons I choose QF over JQ for instance.
Now that DJ offers me row 3, and they come with the bonus of genuine warmth and courtesy from the FAs..... Well, let's just say that I felt underwhelmed enough that I'm considering if I should have just saved the money and chosen DJ..??

Both options give me SCs and points - so that's not a winner for either.

So in summary - I got what I paid for, there was nothing "wrong" with anything on the flight........ It's just that it was underwhelming enough for me to write this rant, post online, and draw VA's and Red Roo's attention to it.

I am stuck all the way back in row 5 tomorrow :(
 
I am stuck all the way back in row 5 tomorrow :(

Please take my comment in the context of a CNS flight.

Obviously if I were on a BNE-SYD or SYD-MEL it would be not as guaranteed.

I guess my point is that I'm grateful for it - but where possible - I would also expect that from Qantas - as would any WP.
 
The staff seemed generally disinterested, even offering the headsets came across rushed, disinterested, and much like the stereotypical "I'm making a coffee - would anyone else like one?"

Still sounds like a slight improvement over "downright foul!" My sister-in-law reported after a MEL-SYD flight last month that the conversation across the service cart between the FAs was "Gee, I really need to fart" which was met with a response of, "Well, you should just let it out then!" I didn't ask my sister-in-law whether the first FA followed his colleague's advice.
 
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I find it a bit underwhelming that a post at 2.57PM says your sitting on a 10AM flight in Queensland!
 
I find it a bit underwhelming that a post at 2.57PM says your sitting on a 10AM flight in Queensland!


Well it looks like he posted it when he landed...

The biggest issue of QF flight attendant, they never smile. QF really has to start re-training their staff about customer service.
 
Well it looks like he posted it when he landed...

The biggest issue of QF flight attendant, they never smile. QF really has to start re-training their staff about customer service.

I think that is hit and miss. My last few flights they have been all chirpy and happy... it's been a while since I saw a dour looking one.
 
I find it a bit underwhelming that a post at 2.57PM says your sitting on a 10AM flight in Queensland!

Haha.

Wrote it on the flight.

Took me a while to actually post.

Got distracted with too much other good stuff on AFF today ;)

(I would never dare to use my cell phone inflight).

Oh - and the FAs weren't at all foul..... Just......disinterested.

As a genuine point - I wondered if it's a deliberate thing where they roster better crew on the "premium" flights (that also happen to have more service, and service offering).
 
I think that is hit and miss. My last few flights they have been all chirpy and happy... it's been a while since I saw a dour looking one.


Well I'm flying economy. So I'm guessing there is a difference in experience. But I consider being a valuable customer since I do SYD-MEL once a week, and the only person smiling usually is the person in charge of the cabin. It doesn't change the fact that the job is done and the team is professional, but you can offer a drink and smile, it can't be that hard.
 
It's all about managing expectations. I am happy to get what I paid for, baggage delivered and I can walk away at the end, anything else is a bonus.

My QF flight Monday night was fine, staff good and no issue.
 
Well I'm flying economy. So I'm guessing there is a difference in experience. But I consider being a valuable customer since I do SYD-MEL once a week, and the only person smiling usually is the person in charge of the cabin. It doesn't change the fact that the job is done and the team is professional, but you can offer a drink and smile, it can't be that hard.

I think nlagalle flies whY domestically like the rest of us...
 
Well I'm flying economy. So I'm guessing there is a difference in experience. But I consider being a valuable customer since I do SYD-MEL once a week, and the only person smiling usually is the person in charge of the cabin. It doesn't change the fact that the job is done and the team is professional, but you can offer a drink and smile, it can't be that hard.

As simongr said, I fly mainly domestic, all in Y. The bulk of my travel is MEL-SYD which is pretty much weekly at the moment.
 
It's all about managing expectations. I am happy to get what I paid for, baggage delivered and I can walk away at the end, anything else is a bonus.

My QF flight Monday night was fine, staff good and no issue.

You are right.

Maybe my expectations are too high.... But I just expect what i've gotten use to receiving from QF.

When QF are good - they're great!!

But at the lower expectation level...... I find it hard to justify paying the premium......

I won't change my choices based on a single flight experience...... But it was enough for me to post about it.
 
Staff is hit and miss really in my experience. Find that it's the same on QF as on most other Western flag carriers, whether it's QF or LH or BA or even AA- you can get a grumpy old b+*ch as well as some really nice and friendly staff. Funnily, with all the mentioned airlines I find this to be the case both in Y as well as in the premium cabin.

Where I completely agree though and it's one of my personal pet hates is the idiotic money saving on food and I do agree, that shouldn't be the case if you pay a premium, as little as this might be. I usually manage to book around the "refreshment" times on QF but really- can't they just always offer you on of those plastic meals like after 5 and some free booze as well? The meal has been highlight of any flight for me since I was a kid and even when flying several times a week and in Eco, I still enjoy it. Different priorities for different people I guess.
 
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Must say what a nice job they did on the Cairns domestic Flounge, nice and modern with lottsa room, but gee how about a decent feed, not seen any hot food selections, also be nice to make a decent sandwich, not bothered with booze but I guess they have it, come on Q you can do better than this!.
 
Must say what a nice job they did on the Cairns domestic Flounge, nice and modern with lottsa room, but gee how about a decent feed, not seen any hot food selections, also be nice to make a decent sandwich, not bothered with booze but I guess they have it, come on Q you can do better than this!.

Hot food comes out at 5 and is generally spring rolls and something that looks like sausages, last Thursday they were terrible.
 
Comes out at 5, not many flights in after that is there?, not most of the day I wonder.

We usually fly out mid mornings.
 
Must say what a nice job they did on the Cairns domestic Flounge, nice and modern with lottsa room, but gee how about a decent feed, not seen any hot food selections, also be nice to make a decent sandwich, not bothered with booze but I guess they have it, come on Q you can do better than this!.


Flounge?????? :mrgreen:
 
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