United Airlines Denied Boarding

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Yes I agree with MEL_Traveller - its possible UA don't even understand the nature of your complaint yet, or they are deliberately trying not to understand. Possibly because it is a complex but legitimate complaint about breach of contract.

As bookings systems are electronic and can be changed/modified/tampered with - you will need to prove you were booked on the original LA-Aspen flight, then prove that you flew the UA LA-Grand junction flight (this will be difficult if you don't have the LA-Grand Junction boarding pass) and thus prove that UA didn't scan your boarding pass at the departure gate at LAX. It also wouldn't hurt to be able to prove that you took bus from Grand Junction to Aspen. Once you prove all of this with documentary evidence - and feel free to collect as much as you can from any documentary source that you can think of like photos, boarding passes, bus tickets, mobile phone records, luggage tags, credit card statements and baggage receipt stubs. I know that this can be a PITA but its the only way (that I can think of) that will get you some satisfaction/resolution.

When you can prove all this, and I wouldn't be relying on UA to help you out at all, then you have your breach of contract or go down the denied boarding argument road if you really feel that you are committed to that line of argument.

Whatever line of argument you take - once the evidence is there and undisputable, then you can start talking compensation. I think you've been very kind to UA so far in my opinion, if it had been me in the same position I would have tried to take them to the cleaners! Consider that you also may have had to change accomodation, lift tickets, lost a days skiing and all the other costs associated with bus trips etc and booking new flights from Denver to LAX as well as the refund from UA for the un-used Aspen-LA flights (which to their credit UA has already refunded).

Its another example of a good reason to keep all boarding passes, ticket printouts, T&C paperwork and screenshots of bookings until all flights are flown and credited correctly to the relevant FF scheme.
 
Thanks Burmans and MEL-Traveller.

From the US Dept of Transport "Fly Rights" - A Consumer Guide to Air Travel :* To be eligible for compensation, you must have a confirmed reservation. A written confirmation issued by the airline or an authorized agent or reservation service qualifies you in this regard even if the airline can't find your reservation in the computer, as long as you didn't cancel your reservation or miss a reconfirmation deadline"

I well may be on the wrong track, however for the moment I don't think their answers are helping their case.........:idea:.
 
And thanks East West.

It was our return flight to LA so we didn't miss any ski-ing etc, and we did not get a new boarding pass on our 1st leg from LA to Aspen - this has been the cause
of the problem !
 
And thanks East West.

It was our return flight to LA so we didn't miss any ski-ing etc, and we did not get a new boarding pass on our 1st leg from LA to Aspen - this has been the cause of the problem !

Thats how I understood it as well - I was just hoping that you kept your original LA to Aspen paper boarding passes with you. :) Strictly speaking - it may also have been some sort of US security breach or certainly a UA policy breach that UA gate agents boarded a plane with some boarding passes re-printed and others not, some scanned and some not, for two different destinations and then intentionally sent the plane off to Grand Junction due to the weather in Aspen.

Anyway - keep on updating us with how you go with UA!
 
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Thanks Burmans and MEL-Traveller.

From the US Dept of Transport "Fly Rights" - A Consumer Guide to Air Travel :* To be eligible for compensation, you must have a confirmed reservation. A written confirmation issued by the airline or an authorized agent or reservation service qualifies you in this regard even if the airline can't find your reservation in the computer, as long as you didn't cancel your reservation or miss a reconfirmation deadline"

I well may be on the wrong track, however for the moment I don't think their answers are helping their case.........:idea:.

As per the requirements of the quote ... you didn't have a confirmed reservation! It was cancelled because the system registered you as a no-show. So the restof the clause (about the airline not being able to see it) doesn't come in to play.

Thats how I understood it as well - I was just hoping that you kept your original LA to Aspen paper boarding passes with you. :) Strictly speaking - it may also have been some sort of US security breach or certainly a UA policy breach that UA gate agents boarded a plane with some boarding passes re-printed and others not, some scanned and some not, for two different destinations and then intentionally sent the plane off to Grand Junction due to the weather in Aspen.

Simply asking UA to check the flight data for the original flight they will be able to see the flight only went as far as Grand Junction. According to the report from the OP, they should also be able to see it went out half full (or less) if they stopped scanning boarding passes. That should trigger some bells to do some more investigation. They will also have other pax in the same boat - cancelled because they took that original flight and registered as a no-show for their alternative flight. Someone in UA hasn't seen the bigger picture yet and joined the dots. The OP won't be the only one caught out.
 
You do know the quote about doing the same thing over and over again and what that is the definition, of don't you? If you really think your argument is correct because of the DOT book you should be talking to them because you aren't going to get a different result from UA if you keep saying the same thing to them. Personally I think you won't get much luck with them but it is after all your time to waste so go for it.

Or alternately you could try another tack, your decision.!
 
You do know the quote about doing the same thing over and over again and what that is the definition, of don't you? If you really think your argument is correct because of the DOT book you should be talking to them because you aren't going to get a different result from UA if you keep saying the same thing to them. Personally I think you won't get much luck with them but it is after all your time to waste so go for it.

Or alternately you could try another tack, your decision.!

Finally, after numerous emails a reply from United this morning, an admission from United of an "Internal Issue" and a request for more details from an employee of United who
seems to understand ! ( perhaps as a result of my discussions with the USA DOT?).
Again I have offered to settle for a voucher for a return fare LAX to ASP or similar.
I'll wait and see !!!!!
 
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Finally, after numerous emails a reply from United this morning, an admission from United of an "Internal Issue" and a request for more details from an employee of United who
seems to understand ! ( perhaps as a result of my discussions with the USA DOT?).
Again I have offered to settle for a voucher for a return fare LAX to ASP or similar.
I'll wait and see !!!!!

Epic length of complaint process period but we will await further developments on this thread! Keep us posted! :lol:
 
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