United Award chart devaluation

Status
Not open for further replies.
Interesting that you can now purchase 150,000 points, whereas there was previously a 100k limit.
 
A return J saver ticket to SEAsia from Oz will only cost about USD1100 if you just use the miles bought from this promotion. Not bad.
 
MH_fan said:
A return J saver ticket to SEAsia from Oz will only cost about USD1100 if you just use the miles bought from this promotion. Not bad.
Click to expand...

Sorry but I don't understand how that calculation came about? A return J saver ticket is 60,000 miles and that costs US $1354.50. I know you mentioned the chart says 25K one way but I have not seen an example when I try to book that quotes me that amount. The amount was only supposed to go down to 30K and it has.
 
MH_fan said:
I didn't put in any specific destinations. I just went to the UA website and to the Mileage Plus section and did a quote where I selected South Asia and AUstralia/NZ as the origin/destination. It then states that a J saver award between these 2 areas is 25000 for one-way and 50000 for a return ticket.

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/apps/mileageplus/awards/travel/awardTravel.aspx

But when I do a specific search, it keeps quoting 30000 for a one way J saver award!
Click to expand...

If you scroll down the chart you will see that it is 30K for Star/Partner travel and 25K for united metal (which obviously doesn't exist between Aus and SE Asia)
 
It is actually 30,000 miles from Australia to South Asia in J when using Star Alliance airlines.

The 25,000 miles that the Mileage Plus website is quoting is for travel on United or Copa Airlines only, which clearly won’t apply in this case.

[TABLE="class: rewardChart"]
[TR="class: cabin"]
[TH]First and Business Class
[/TH]
[TD="class: miles"]25,000
[/TD]
[TD]One-way Saver Award[/TD]
[TD]Add 10,000 miles for First class when both Business class and First class are offered[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: miles"]50,000
[/TD]
[TD]Roundtrip Saver Award
[/TD]
[TD]Add 20,000 miles for First class when both Business class and First class are offered[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: miles"]50,000
[/TD]
[TD]One-way Standard Award[/TD]
[TD]Add 20,000 miles for First class when both Business class and First class are offered[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: miles"]100,000[/TD]
[TD]Roundtrip Standard Award[/TD]
[TD]Add 40,000 miles for First class when both Business class and First class are offered
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: cabin"]
[TH]Star/Partner First and Business Class
[/TH]
[TD="class: miles"]30,000
[/TD]
[TD]One-way Saver Award
[/TD]
[TD]Add 10,000 miles for First class when both Business class and First class are offered[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: miles"]60,000
[/TD]
[TD]Roundtrip Saver Award[/TD]
[TD]Add 20,000 miles for First class when both Business class and First class are offered[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]





I have however seen the booking engine quote 25,000 miles to Asia eg Hong Kong or Kuala Lumpur however the long haul portion ie. MEL-BKK is in Y with the short haul legs ie. BKK-KUL/HKG in J. I don’t think many people would choose this option but it’s good anyway that system discounts for the fact that not all segments are in J. Something that QF could probably pick up on.

They only charge real taxes eg. MEL-BKK is US$66.

I’ve also found that the booking engine can spit out some interesting routings but nothing outrageous like Lifemiles. You can also engineer some <24 hr transits yourself online. I’ve found that when searching by multiple destinations you can use up to three lines. It will still price as a one way award if you have up to 5 segments, all transits are <24 hrs and you don’t transit the same city twice. I believe you can have up to 10 segments for a return journey but you can still only use three lines in your multiple destination search.
 
aikman said:
It is actually 30,000 miles from Australia to South Asia in J when using Star Alliance airlines.

The 25,000 miles that the Mileage Plus website is quoting is for travel on United or Copa Airlines only, which clearly won’t apply in this case.

[TABLE="class: rewardChart"]
[TR="class: cabin"]
[TH]First and Business Class
[/TH]
[TD="class: miles"]25,000
[/TD]
[TD]One-way Saver Award
[/TD]
[TD]Add 10,000 miles for First class when both Business class and First class are offered
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: miles"]50,000
[/TD]
[TD]Roundtrip Saver Award
[/TD]
[TD]Add 20,000 miles for First class when both Business class and First class are offered
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: miles"]50,000
[/TD]
[TD]One-way Standard Award
[/TD]
[TD]Add 20,000 miles for First class when both Business class and First class are offered
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: miles"]100,000
[/TD]
[TD]Roundtrip Standard Award
[/TD]
[TD]Add 40,000 miles for First class when both Business class and First class are offered
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: cabin"]
[TH]Star/Partner First and Business Class
[/TH]
[TD="class: miles"]30,000
[/TD]
[TD]One-way Saver Award
[/TD]
[TD]Add 10,000 miles for First class when both Business class and First class are offered
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: miles"]60,000
[/TD]
[TD]Roundtrip Saver Award
[/TD]
[TD]Add 20,000 miles for First class when both Business class and First class are offered
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
I have however seen the booking engine quote 25,000 miles to Asia eg Hong Kong or Kuala Lumpur however the long haul portion ie. MEL-BKK is in Y with the short haul legs ie. BKK-KUL/HKG in J. I don’t think many people would choose this option but it’s good anyway that system discounts for the fact that not all segments are in J. Something that QF could probably pick up on.

They only charge real taxes eg. MEL-BKK is US$66.

I’ve also found that the booking engine can spit out some interesting routings but nothing outrageous like Lifemiles. You can also engineer some <24 hr transits yourself online. I’ve found that when searching by multiple destinations you can use up to three lines. It will still price as a one way award if you have up to 5 segments, all transits are <24 hrs and you don’t transit the same city twice. I believe you can have up to 10 segments for a return journey but you can still only use three lines in your multiple destination search.
Click to expand...

I still think J return to South Asia for USD1300 ish + taxes is fantastic value. I've paid more than this for peak Y tickets. Yes during sale periods you might get Y tickets for half this price but during expensive periods its an absolute no brainer for me - why fly peak Y when J is the same price?. All my friends cannot work out how I can afford to travel in J multiple times per year!
 
zainman said:
If you scroll down the chart you will see that it is 30K for Star/Partner travel and 25K for united metal (which obviously doesn't exist between Aus and SE Asia)
Click to expand...
I don't know how I missed seeing that bit. thank you for clarifying! Still a pretty good deal though.
 
zainman said:
If you scroll down the chart you will see that it is 30K for Star/Partner travel and 25K for united metal (which obviously doesn't exist between Aus and SE Asia)
Click to expand...

It does exist, people just forget about it due to the OMG departure time and the fact its a 737
 
Looks like I'll have to top-up some miles since I only have about 50k...and I need 60k.
 
markis10 said:
It does exist, people just forget about it due to the OMG departure time and the fact its a 737
Click to expand...

I think people want to find far more creative ways to get from Australia to Guam other than by taking an overnight 737 flight.
 
AMEX Velocity Platinum Card Benefits
Australia's highest-earning Velocity Frequent Flyer credit card: Offer expires: 21 Jan 2025
- Earn 60,000 bonus Velocity Points
- Get unlimited Virgin Australia Lounge access
- Enjoy a complimentary return Virgin Australia domestic flight each year

AFF Supporters can remove this and all advertisements

smit0847 said:
I think people want to find far more creative ways to get from Australia to Guam other than by taking an overnight 737 flight.
Click to expand...

In the context of award flights I would agree, however its been somewhat of a forgotten service for a while, especially when it was CO and people were talking about US carriers who still did Aussie flights.
 
FWIW I'm trying to book a CNS-GUM-MEL trip at the moment with US... so I haven't forgotten about it.

Yes there could be better things than 5 hours in a 737 but you have to take the good with the bad.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Become an AFF member!

Join Australian Frequent Flyer (AFF) for free and unlock insider tips, exclusive deals, and global meetups with 65,000+ frequent flyers.

AFF members can also access our Frequent Flyer Training courses, and upgrade to Fast-track your way to expert traveller status and unlock even more exclusive discounts!

AFF forum abbreviations

Wondering about Y, J or any of the other abbreviations used on our forum?

Check out our guide to common AFF acronyms & abbreviations.

Recent Posts

Currently Active Users

... and 35 more.
Total: 447 (members: 85, guests: 362)
Back
Top