US Dividend Miles - Award Booking Questions and General Discussion

Re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lou

it depends on the program you are using. iirc (sorry i have really bad internet at the moment) TPE-NRT-SYD would work for MPM using US airways.

it would not work for AA miles because Japan and taiwan are in different asia regions, and you cannot transfer via the higher region on a single award. you'd need two awards.

as for lifemiles... I would search sector by sector... TPE-BKK and BKK-australia. if they are showing individually, but not as a through tickrt, you can write to Lifemiles and have them ticket it manually if they agree.

thanks heaps. will give it a try and write back.
 
Re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lou

can someone please point me to where can i find MPM info on expertflyer? (i have a subscription)

and am i correct in that the destination which is the furthest from the origin is considered the basis for calculating MPM?

thanks
 
Re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lou

can someone please point me to where can i find MPM info on expertflyer? (i have a subscription)

After logging in, on the left hand side go to "Travel Information", then there should be a tab for "Max Permitted Mileage".

In the "Airports" field, enter in your complete one-way itinerary to check for MPM including coughulative MPM; alternatively, just the origin and final destination to get direct MPM information.

am i correct in that the destination which is the furthest from the origin is considered the basis for calculating MPM?

Yes, although keep in mind that sometimes agents will also consider if the en route MPM is exceeded in whether you are granted your itinerary (it is not as common, however).
 
Re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lou

In the "Airports" field, enter in your complete one-way itinerary to check for MPM including coughulative MPM; alternatively, just the origin and final destination to get direct MPM information.

thanks. if anyone needs MPM data i can now happily help out!

more questions
if SYD-LAX is 8,994, and 25M is 11,242 can the routing can be up to 11,242?
e.g. SYD-NRT MPM = 5,835 & NRT-LAX = 6,549 for a total of 12,384 would be disallowed?
or can i use the cough column total of 10,321 and hence it would be allowed?

similarly, i don't follow how people are managing to get SYD-HKG-LAX on CX booked as it also seems to go over MPM?

if there is a wish to take this offline please let me know and i can remove the post.

cheers
 
Re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lou

I wouldn't bother with all that rubbish just ring and find out .
 
Re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lou

thanks. if anyone needs MPM data i can now happily help out!

more questions
if SYD-LAX is 8,994, and 25M is 11,242 can the routing can be up to 11,242?
e.g. SYD-NRT MPM = 5,835 & NRT-LAX = 6,549 for a total of 12,384 would be disallowed?
or can i use the cough column total of 10,321 and hence it would be allowed?

similarly, i don't follow how people are managing to get SYD-HKG-LAX on CX booked as it also seems to go over MPM?

if there is a wish to take this offline please let me know and i can remove the post.

cheers

The 25M value is allowed for USDM routings. So in the case of SYD/LAX, that would be 11,242 miles.

You do not add the MPMs of your intermediate stops to make the "total" MPM of your itinerary. The MPM is determined between origin and destination. An en route stopover does not increase (or decrease) the MPM.

cough is the coughulative mileage (not MPM) of the proposed routing. If the final cough value is less than the corresponding 25M value, you're within the limits.

As I said, however, do note that if some of your intermediate stops (i.e. intermediate cough values) exceed the MPM as if you were routing from origin to that stop, the agents may reject it. This is much more subjective, however, than the overall MPM (it may be "bypassed" by trying a different agent). It's only likely to be an issue if your intermediate routing is to some far flung place but your overall itinerary is still within MPM.

MPM is something that agents can and do check, but like everything which isn't bolted down into a system check (i.e. nearly everything in USDM), it is not exact nor is it necessarily checked all the time. People are generally finding that MPM is checked frequently, but that doesn't mean that some errant itineraries will fall through the cracks (like SYD-HKG-LAX, which technically breaks the MPM). The overall observation, however, is that of the successful itineraries booked, not many of them exceed MPM checks.

People will still try to book itineraries that break the rules (including MPM). Some rules are more enforced than others. If you try to book an itinerary which breaks the rules, all power to you, but you should be prepared for a "no" answer (and if you try hanging up and calling again, many times).
 
I wouldn't bother with all that rubbish just ring and find out .

When calling just be nice and calm, HUACA if you need to, but never ever tell the agent to "grow a brain" or "put cold water on your face" because they might take offense and they might just close your USDM account.
 
Is there an ability to organise a stopover for an entirely australian trip?

ie Per-> Mel (S/O) -> Brisbane (Dest) ->Per
 
Open jaw is definitely ok - I just did a KTA-PER-SYD/BNE-PER-KTA trip.

I have successfully booked a stopover on a domestic trip once before but have been denied many times since. Probably not worth the HUCA effort.
 
When calling just be nice and calm, HUACA if you need to, but never ever tell the agent to "grow a brain" or "put cold water on your face" because they might take offense and they might just close your USDM account.

I don't think I have ever told a USDM to put cold water on their face. A custom agent charging me $500 per piece of fruit from upstairs maybe he might need a little freshing up.
 
Are there any valid Aussie domestic routings between PER and CNS that don't exceed MPM? The only direct flight is on Jetstar which obviously can't be booked by USDM.
 
I got turned town yesterday for exceeding MPM on a PER-SYD-CNS stop CNS-DRW-PER itinerary.

But then HUACA this morning went through no problems. Go figure. Magic of HUACA.
 
I got turned town yesterday for exceeding MPM on a PER-SYD-CNS stop CNS-DRW-PER itinerary.

But then HUACA this morning went through no problems. Go figure. Magic of HUACA.
That's maximising the value of the points!
 
While its a nice little unusual return (I wouldn't mind trying a PER-DRW-CNS-BNE or something for example), unfortunately the best J flights from PER are via BNE/SYD/MEL as the upgraded A330s are put on those routes...
 
While its a nice little unusual return (I wouldn't mind trying a PER-DRW-CNS-BNE or something for example), unfortunately the best J flights from PER are via BNE/SYD/MEL as the upgraded A330s are put on those routes...

Yeah I think our PER-SYD sector is one of the a330's and I'm really hoping for an upgraded one. The CNS-DRW sector is very unattractive because it's run by Qantaslink and no J available. But it's only 2.5 hours and I really wanted to catch up with my mum in DRW. Also looking forward to the new DRW QF lounge!
 
Does anyone have experience with JAL's search engine showing phantom avails on Cathay? I'm looking at LAX-HKG on CX F at the end of May and on most dates there are at least a couple of seats available according to JAL. However the USDM agents (HUACA twice) couldn't see anything at all. In fact they could barely find any J seats even.
 
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