US Dividend Miles - Award Booking Questions and General Discussion

QF1 departs at 2am...could be that old issue? Perhaps ask them to check Dec 14?

I believe that they actually saw the flight but no seats were there :/

Edit: I'm not even sure whats going. All QF flights are not bookable on BA. Maybe there's an issue.....
 
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I remember one time trying to book QF Business for my sister on QF10 (ended up not proceeding as an alternative was found). The first agent couldn't see it and put the sector into Economy when the booking was placed on hold.

I called back and got another agent, and it seems that the first agent might have just looked up the wrong fare code (e.g. U or P or whatever it is). Some agents also have a problem looking up the flight if it is a departure very close to midnight. Weird things and sometimes you just don't know how to tell them what to try without sounding like you know way too much or sounding demanding (i.e. basically jeopardising your relationship with the agent and risking not getting anything you want at all).
 
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[KVS Tool 7.7.1/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld]
Code:
DXB  Dubai Metro / Dubai Intl AE = DXB DWC [OMDB]
LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
TUE  15 Dec 2015 | 2 Seats


Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Award Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
QF         1       DXB   02:25     LHR   06:20              FS2  CS-  WS2  YS-
QF         9       DXB   08:30     LHR   12:25              FS-  CS2  WS2  YS-

[KVS Tool 7.7.1/Diamond - Awards/OneWorld/AU-QFA-SP]
Code:
DXB  Dubai Metro / Dubai Intl AE = DXB DWC [OMDB]
LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
TUE  15 Dec 2015 | 2 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Award Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
QF         1       DXB   02:25     LHR   06:20          0   FS+  CS-  WS+  YS-
QF         9       DXB   08:30     LHR   12:25          0   FS-  CS+  WS+  YS-

View attachment 41122
(I checked and most of them are QF. Even CX is showing 2 seats on QF1!)


Man.. any chance these flights are coming back or is it wishful thinking...?

but the QF website is showing 0 seats available in F, only economy and business on EK services (EK flight numbers).

Why would you look via AA or KVS over QF's own website?
 
but the QF website is showing 0 seats available in F, only economy and business on EK services (EK flight numbers).

Why would you look via AA or KVS over QF's own website?

Wishful thinking ha. I'm hoping there might be a glitch but then again there might not be. I'm actually currently having issues with the QF site which is why I might think there be an issue. If not I guess its back to the drawing board..
 
but the QF website is showing 0 seats available in F, only economy and business on EK services (EK flight numbers).
QF.com shows 2+ F Award Seats on QF 1:

UxBaG.jpg


Why would you look via AA or KVS over QF's own website?
There is no need (or point) for KVS Tool Users to 'look' at QF.com using a regular web browser.
 
Indeed. I don't know anymore. This is driving me up the walls. Today I called US and was 100% set then US said theres no seats on QF1 from DXB-LHR. I don't even know how that's the case when AA/BA both show space and QF on KVS shows but the website doesn't.

[KVS Tool 7.7.1/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld]
Code:
DXB  Dubai Metro / Dubai Intl AE = DXB DWC [OMDB]
LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
TUE  15 Dec 2015 | 2 Seats


Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Award Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
QF         1       DXB   02:25     LHR   06:20              FS2  CS-  WS2  YS-
QF         9       DXB   08:30     LHR   12:25              FS-  CS2  WS2  YS-

[KVS Tool 7.7.1/Diamond - Awards/OneWorld/AU-QFA-SP]
Code:
DXB  Dubai Metro / Dubai Intl AE = DXB DWC [OMDB]
LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
TUE  15 Dec 2015 | 2 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Award Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
QF         1       DXB   02:25     LHR   06:20          0   FS+  CS-  WS+  YS-
QF         9       DXB   08:30     LHR   12:25          0   FS-  CS+  WS+  YS-

Those Award Seats are definitely available -- for tips on dealing with Agents, who may claim otherwise, please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AgentSaysNo

can you book KA on US?

Yes, as KA is a OneWorld affiliate member.
 
QF.com shows 2+ F Award Seats on QF 1:

UxBaG.jpg



There is no need (or point) for KVS Tool Users to 'look' at QF.com using a regular web browser.

interesting! At the exact time of my post, a similar search returned '0' results for the day in question via QF. In fact it still does!


QFDXB.jpg

(sorry - I dunno how to make that image bigger)

that being said - if I do a multi city MEL-DXB and DXB-LHR, the DXB-LHR appears. But not for a single search for that sector alone.
 
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Holy Batman! I was just on the phone with US for 2 hours and it took them an hour to calculate the taxes and charges. Its on hold at the moment but this is what went down:

2 PAX
Round 1:
PHL-ZRH-HKG-HND-DOH-DXB-LHR-PHL (I guessed as much that it wouldn't go through)
Round 2:
PHL-ZRH-HKG-DOH-DXB-LHR-PHL (Still no)
Round 3:
PHL-ZRH-HKG-DXB-LHR-PHL (finally yes)
US(J)-CX(F)-CX(J)-QF(F)-US(Y)

Hoping that something will pop for the LHR-PHL. Taxes atm are $107 + 50 and 115K miles. Thinking maybe I should slug it out on coach CX from HKG-DXB so I can actually get to LHR when I originally planned to. Now they've pushed my arrival date in to PHL from the 15th to the 18th. They also won't let me take PHL-SJU. I'm surprised they actually found more F that there originally was on QF!

In people's experience is BA's F worth the taxes? In this case LHR-IAD would be $300~ so it would be $450pp in taxes and charges..

BTW I think earlier I probably had an incompetent agent. The agent I spoke with had no issues seeing 2F on QF1 on the 15th.
 
Holy Batman! I was just on the phone with US for 2 hours and it took them an hour to calculate the taxes and charges. Its on hold at the moment but this is what went down:

Just remember - until you have a booking with e-ticket numbers and all, nothing is definite. Something on hold let alone something that the agent allowed first before calculating the taxes (or even passing it to the rates desk) is not definite.

Hoping that something will pop for the LHR-PHL.

I assume you mean either J or F (US or BA respectively). Once ticketed, you'd better hope that the change can be made without requiring to redo the entire ticket, basically throwing away the availability which you have found.

Thinking maybe I should slug it out on coach CX from HKG-DXB so I can actually get to LHR when I originally planned to.

Depends on how badly you need to be in LHR on your planned date.

We have a saying in these games that you plan your holiday (or whatever) around your premium award travel, not the other way around.

In people's experience is BA's F worth the taxes? In this case LHR-IAD would be $300~ so it would be $450pp in taxes and charges..

If the alternative is Y, I'd rather front up the $300 myself. Or, you could spend between 33-50% of that amount on alcohol that will knock you out for a ~7 hr flight in the back (assuming normally no lounge access or other access to complimentary alcohol). ;) :p :mrgreen:

BA F is decent enough. If you get an experienced F crew they are usually offer very good service and the food on BA beats AA First, let alone anything that US could proffer in any class. I don't know what your layover time is in LHR, but BA F will give you access to the T5 Concorde Room - again, some say it's not as great as it sounds, some say it's pure novelty and nothing else... but oneworld Emeralds not in BA F can't go in, so there.

BTW I think earlier I probably had an incompetent agent. The agent I spoke with had no issues seeing 2F on QF1 on the 15th.

That's not necessarily an unusual thing to occur around the traps.
 
That's not necessarily an unusual thing to occur around the traps.

If I couldn't get the seats to display on QF's own website, maybe there were systems rather than the agent.

You guys a correct, just the tiredness! I apologise. It could possible be that glitch I was mentioning. Learnt my lesson today: nothing displayed online is 100% accurate until you call!
 
I very nearly had a major issue on my flight PER x SYD - YVR on Wednesday. We had initially booked CX PER x HKG x JFK - YVR, but changed (with a nightmare 3 hour call to US) to a direct SYD-YVR flight. I had previously booked separate MEL-PER-MEL flights, and the US agent had some issue with giving me an open jaw PER - MEL, as I wanted th outgoing to start from MEL. Somewhere along the line they decided that my initial booking was illegal (I suspect going HKG-JFK-YVR & the same on the return), and as I couldn't find anything else for my return dates I asked them to leave it alone. The upshot was that they lost part of my return (HKG-PER) and had to contact CX to get another seat released which took another 3 days. I kept checking the saudia site, but it didn't update the changes, & as I could see the eventual confirmation on the CX site, assumed (wrongly) that everything was kosher.

We arrived at PER at 0400 for the 0530 PER-SYD leg & went to check in & the QF agent reaches for the phone & after some discussion says that my ticket hadn't been issued, but my wife's was all in order. She refused point blank to help & directed me to the next terminal to find wifi & chase up with US. I didn't have my mobile, & didn't have any US contact details & she wouldn't help with any, so I asked for her supervisor. He was only slightly better & did get a Sydney AA number for me. Fortunately my wife had her mobile, as he was directing me to a pay phone. After being on hold for over 15 minutes, I finally got to talk to an AA agent, who tried to transfer me but the call dropped out. I re-dialled and had another wait (slightly shorter) & gave the agent the story (flight about to close & failed transfer call etc) & she got me to a US agent. The fun didn't end there though, as I hadn't opened my laptop to get the booking details, & the QF supervisor had written them down with the wrong e-ticket number & only the QF PNR. The US agent couldn't find any record and couldn't find anything in my name, but by this time I had my laptop open & gave the US PNR. She put me on hold & I managed to get the supervisor to check our luggage in so that it would get on the flight (it was now 0500) while she was sorting out the booking. As he finished tagging the luggage, she came back on to say that she had issued a new ticket, & the QF bod could see it as well. I had already sent the +1 down to oversize with the skis as soon as he had tagged them (my main reason for not trying OLCI in the 1st place), and we made it onto the plane just before they closed the doors.

I am not at all impressed by QF in PER. I had an issue a couple of years ago overseas with a BMI award ticket on SQ, that had also been subject to a change. The SQ agent couldn't have been more helpful and sorted it out between herself and the BMI agent at the airport. And again when I lost my passport in the US and was coming back with VA. Again the agents couldn't have been more helpful, finding a motel for us close to LAX (it was late at night), and moving us to the following days flight via SYD (they didn't have a direct LAX-MEL) flight that day, & even bumping us up to business for the SYD-MEL leg.
 
sorry to hear that jgm.

Looking at how to prevent this happening to anyone else, I guess the advice might be the same as for other partners... to ring (QF) and ask them to read back a valid ticket number for their flights?
 
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sorry to hear that jgm.

Looking at how to prevent this happening to anyone else, I guess the advice might be the same as for other partners... to ring (QF) and ask them to read back a valid ticket number for their flights?

Especially after an itinerary change.

Checking the Saudia website and not seeing the updated changes should have been a big red flag that something was not quite in order. e-tickets which haven't been reissued are hard to detect normally and can bring down an entire booking.
 
Especially after an itinerary change.

Checking the Saudia website and not seeing the updated changes should have been a big red flag that something was not quite in order. e-tickets which haven't been reissued are hard to detect normally and can bring down an entire booking.

Preach.

Although it is a PITA, there is really no substitute for a quick call to the operating airlines.

Learned that the hard way last year.

Conflicting information in different booking management systems (eg Check My Trip, USDM, operating carrier etc) should be a big red flag.

Glad it was (eventually) resolved in OP's favour.
 
Hi All, Any help would be amazing. Very new to USDM and still trying to get my head around the whole thing. Would the below be possible and considered a South Pacific - North America 110,000miles redemption.

SYD - HKG - JFK (2 week stop over) JFK - YVR (1 week stop over) YVR - JFK - HKG - SYD
 
Hi All, Any help would be amazing. Very new to USDM and still trying to get my head around the whole thing. Would the below be possible and considered a South Pacific - North America 110,000miles redemption.

SYD - HKG - JFK (2 week stop over) JFK - YVR (1 week stop over) YVR - JFK - HKG - SYD

Looking at doing similar trip 2016, finding J/f award seats will be fun..

Nope only one stopover.

[h=2]Award travel: Stopovers & other rules[/h]
[h=3]Stopovers: Travel within the continental U.S., Canada and Alaska[/h]A stopover is defined as a stay of more than 4 hours between connections if a connecting flight is available within 4 hours. Outside the continental U.S., Canada and Alaska, a stopover is defined as a stay of more than 24 hours between connections.



[h=3]Stopovers: Travel outside the continental U.S., Canada and Alaska[/h]You’re allowed one stopover per US Airways itinerary at a US Airways gateway or international destination, or in a partner hub city if you’re traveling on an award partner. US Airways hub/international gateway cities include Charlotte, Philadelphia and Phoenix. Call Reservations for additional US Airways international gateways and partner hub cities.


[h=3]More stopover rules[/h]
  • Stopovers are not permitted when travel is within one award region or for multi-city travel.
  • Stopovers are allowed only for the most direct route of travel.
  • Stopovers must be included in the reservation when you book. You may not add a stopover once an award has been ticketed.
 
Hi All, Any help would be amazing. Very new to USDM and still trying to get my head around the whole thing. Would the below be possible and considered a South Pacific - North America 110,000miles redemption.

SYD - HKG - JFK (2 week stop over) JFK - YVR (1 week stop over) YVR - JFK - HKG - SYD

Nothing wrong with this as long as it doesn't exceed MPM. JFK is the destination and YVR the stopover.
 

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