US Dividend Miles - Award Booking Questions and General Discussion

[Limewood]

Was wondering if one could go circle pacific if it would break the MPM rules, like BNE/HKG/NYC stop LAX/BNE?.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Was wondering if one could go circle pacific if it would break the MPM rules, like BNE/HKG/NYC stop LAX/BNE?.

bcwolrd's MPM chart is here (post #9): http://www.australianfrequentflyer....idend-miles/easy-way-find-mpm-usdm-53982.html

one way via Asia and the other way direct isn't a routing issue, MPM should be ok but check the chart for your particular flight distance.

 

[Limewood]

I cant make head nor tale of that sorry.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I cant make head nor tale of that sorry.

You can access the MPM chart via the above link... post #9.

Opening the chart brings up city pairs, line 1 is the arrival city, line 2 is the departure city (it opens for MEL, you can use the tabs at the bottom to change to SYD/BNE etc).

So for your question, use tab 3 (BNE), and JFK is listed in the first column. You'll see it is 14446 miles.

Your total distance, from BNE to JFK cannot exceed 14446 miles each way.

You'll also see from the next column that BNE-LAX is 10755 miles. You return from LAX should also ideally be within 10755 miles (although they may be more generous and allow the distance back from JFK, but it's a 'suck-it-and-see' issue.)

Use great circle mapper to plug in your desired flights, so BNE-HKG-JFK. And get the result. Then the same for your routing home. Marry great circle mapper and the MPM chart together to validate your itinerary.

 

[diningdecadence]

You can access the MPM chart via the above link... post #9.

Opening the chart brings up city pairs, line 1 is the arrival city, line 2 is the departure city (it opens for MEL, you can use the tabs at the bottom to change to SYD/BNE etc).

So for your question, use tab 3 (BNE), and JFK is listed in the first column. You'll see it is 14446 miles.

Your total distance, from BNE to JFK cannot exceed 14446 miles each way.

You'll also see from the next column that BNE-LAX is 10755 miles. You return from LAX should also ideally be within 10755 miles (although they may be more generous and allow the distance back from JFK, but it's a 'suck-it-and-see' issue.)

Use great circle mapper to plug in your desired flights, so BNE-HKG-JFK. And get the result. Then the same for your routing home. Marry great circle mapper and the MPM chart together to validate your itinerary.

putting a comment in here so i can refer back - great explanation, thanks!

 

[netgrom]

Interested in opinions on whether I would get the following through US before the consolidation in the future. Believe its within MPM, only thing is stopover is not a OW hub.

BNE-MEL-DOH-JRO(Dest)-DOH-MLE(Stop)-HKG-BNE

 

[appaz]

Interested in opinions on whether I would get the following through US before the consolidation in the future. Believe its within MPM, only thing is stopover is not a OW hub.

BNE-MEL-DOH-JRO(Dest)-DOH-MLE(Stop)-HKG-BNE

I don't think they are that strict on stopovers only being allowed @ OW hubs.

Just call and if they say that HUACA

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I don't think they are that strict on stopovers only being allowed @ OW hubs.

Just call and if they say that HUACA

It's certainly a case of YMMV.

But if they determine 'no stopover at non-OW hub' there's not a lot you can do.

DXB is being routinely denied as a stopover for that reason.

 

[Oxy]

I made a J redemption last night, MEL-HKG-LAX/LAX-BOS-BUF//BUF-BOS-NRT-ICN-HKG-MEL including segments on CX,AA,US & JL. I have all the PNR's except for CX, however I can only get into MMB to select seats for US & AA. I have tried all the others on all the sites I can think of, QF,BA,JL,CX,AY,LA,QR, as well as check my trip.

Any tips most welcome please, would really like to allocate seats for the long sectors!

Thanks in advance.

 

[The Flying Brick]

I made a J redemption last night, MEL-HKG-LAX/LAX-BOS-BUF//BUF-BOS-NRT-ICN-HKG-MEL including segments on CX,AA,US & JL. I have all the PNR's except for CX, however I can only get into MMB to select seats for US & AA. I have tried all the others on all the sites I can think of, QF,BA,JL,CX,AY,LA,QR, as well as check my trip.

Any tips most welcome please, would really like to allocate seats for the long sectors!

Thanks in advance.

You will need to go to each Airlines MMB page to select seats - log in with your PNR and Surname and once done they should show up across all of the others.

CX is very easy to select seats on - I have a couple of flights booked thru US Air in a couple of weeks and had no problems selecting J seats the day my booking was ticketed.

 

[Oxy]

You will need to go to each Airlines MMB page to select seats - log in with your PNR and Surname and once done they should show up across all of the others.

CX is very easy to select seats on - I have a couple of flights booked thru US Air in a couple of weeks and had no problems selecting J seats the day my booking was ticketed.

Yeah that's the problem - I can't log in to any of those airlines sites with the details I have for my JL flights (or CX because I don't have the PNR). I will need to call them for the CX PNR i presume, so when I do is there anything else worth while checking with them, does it look like there is a problem because no other airline is recognising the PNR's?

 

[Blackswan]

Is anyone else having problems with CX availability - JAL shows seats available, but US agents can't see it?

 

[CJEMNMAC]

Yeah that's the problem - I can't log in to any of those airlines sites with the details I have for my JL flights (or CX because I don't have the PNR). I will need to call them for the CX PNR i presume, so when I do is there anything else worth while checking with them, does it look like there is a problem because no other airline is recognising the PNR's?

I have had great experiences with CX by calling the US Toll Free number on Skype, if you need to call outside their normal hours..

 

[Alanslegal]

What's with QR ?? Sometimes when placing a seat on hold, and then later coming back to pay/ticket, they are unable to confirm those seats ?? Anyone had this same issue.

 

[Limewood]

Is anyone else having problems with CX availability - JAL shows seats available, but US agents can't see it?

Its not uncommon, I had same problem JL showing CX flights.

 

[Swan]

Need some advice as what I thought was a simple miles booking is not in fact and I am being told it is an invalid itinerary.

Per-Doh - Gru // - Doh - Per

I am told it is invalid because it is not permissible connecting through Doh twice.

I have called twice and spoken to supervisors but they tell me it is straight forward to system will not accept the itinerary.

This is a rule I have not been aware of before, can someone please enlighten me.

 

[anat0l]

Need some advice as what I thought was a simple miles booking is not in fact and I am being told it is an invalid itinerary.

Per-Doh - Gru // - Doh - Per

I am told it is invalid because it is not permissible connecting through Doh twice.

I have called twice and spoken to supervisors but they tell me it is straight forward to system will not accept the itinerary.

This is a rule I have not been aware of before, can someone please enlighten me.

Important rule of US DM redemptions: The reason the agent tells you when they reject your itinerary is not always the correct reason.

Of course you can connect through DOH twice. There's not really much restrictions around going through the same city twice.

That itinerary has been booked before by an AFF member so unless they got lucky I'm not sure where the system is breaking down.

 

[sergeyvzn]

Need some advice as what I thought was a simple miles booking is not in fact and I am being told it is an invalid itinerary.

Per-Doh - Gru // - Doh - Per

I am told it is invalid because it is not permissible connecting through Doh twice.

I have called twice and spoken to supervisors but they tell me it is straight forward to system will not accept the itinerary.

This is a rule I have not been aware of before, can someone please enlighten me.

it's a ridiculous reason, of course you can connect in Doha twice
my first thought was MPM but then I remembered Perth to South America via Doha is fine.

I am a little suspicious that agent may already be following AAdvantage rules considering USDM got about 3 weeks to leave and the rules do not allow this particular combination of zones ....though I thought Qatar was given a specific exemption

HUACA. You might need to do it a few more times before you speak to an agent who will allow it

 

[anat0l]

it's a ridiculous reason, of course you can connect in Doha twice
my first thought was MPM but then I remembered Perth to South America via Doha is fine.

I am a little suspicious that agent may already be following AAdvantage rules considering USDM got about 3 weeks to leave and the rules do not allow this particular combination of zones ....though I thought Qatar was given a specific exemption

HUACA. You might need to do it a few more times before you speak to an agent who will allow it

I would not be surprised if under AA, a redemption like that being attempted above will not be allowed except to be priced as two redemptions (i.e. South Pacific to Middle East and Middle East to South America). The fact that it is QR will have no effect.

US don't really care about these (maybe the agent received works for AA rather than US), but try looking up the progressive routing MPM for PER-DOH-GRU. On EF for me, it screws up, even though a PER/GRU overall MPM calculation does exist. I wonder if that is sending some agents around the bend.

Going via SYD and the Pacific exceeds MPM, does it? Otherwise, by AA's chart that is the only way (without extra pricing) to get from Australia to South America.

AA only recently relaxed transits in third regions involving QR for South Pacific/Europe, and North America/Africa.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Going via SYD and the Pacific exceeds MPM, does it? Otherwise, by AA's chart that is the only way (without extra pricing) to get from Australia to South America.

MPM SYD-GRU is in the region of 12500 miles, but PER-GRU is over 15000.

You could route via SYD from PER and still enjoy the 15000 MPM.