US Dividend Miles - Award Booking Questions and General Discussion

Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

Ok, do you have any experience of this? If so is it fairly easy and straight forward? Also who out the alliance would you say has the most availability?

Oh and Thanks for the reply
 
Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

Just out of interest how are AA awards currently booked? Online or over the phone?

Online I think it's pretty much AA/QF/BA/AY/HA of the major partners. Otherwise it's by phone.
 
Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

Ok, do you have any experience of this? If so is it fairly easy and straight forward? Also who out the alliance would you say has the most availability?

Oh and Thanks for the reply

It should be more straight forward once you accept AA's routing rules which are far stricter than we are used to.

Ex Australia I think MH and EY are going to be the best availability wise. EY in general is looking good. CX is OK for some city pairs but generally not great ex Aus from what I can see.
 
Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

Ok, do you have any experience of this? If so is it fairly easy and straight forward? Also who out the alliance would you say has the most availability?

Oh and Thanks for the reply

It's pretty much as straightforward as US.

AAgents are typically more experienced and seemed to have on average higher SATs than US DM agents (or at least their geography is better). HUACA is really only useful if something you want to do is very much doable but the agent won't budge. Trying to fool or outsmart AAgents a la US DM is a waste of time.

They seem to end most booking calls with "advertising", e.g. they ask if you would like to know some good deals on car hire. Don't be offended.

Like US, you can place bookings on hold. There is a booking fee for phone bookings as well as expedited ticketing fee for bookings within 21 days of departure; both waived for AA PLT and EXP.

Two things I'm not too sure but others can comment on (because they will surely have the experience).

One is credit cards. US residents are straightforward. Other nations, including Australia, not necessarily. There is supposed to be a process where non-US credit cards are easily handled, but I had one agent not do this. They offered me to pay and ticket the award at the airport, but another AAgent called me a few days later to fix this up (otherwise I would've lost my hold).

The second thing is calling time. I think you must call during the AAdvantage opening hours in the US. Basically the dead of night in Australia. That can be a little hell. I'd like to be told otherwise here (though like US DM, sometimes you get better agents during office hours - their's, of course).


I haven't huge experience checking availability, but I'd reckon CX has pretty good availability. If you can find the seat on QFF classic, you should be able to book it as an AAward. Of course, the hard to get places and common longhaul (i.e. prime F routes) will always be tough on availability.

I'm not sure any oneworld carrier comes close to the self-opening pinata that is TG.
 
Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

re credit cards - i have always ticketed via the phone and used my 28 degrees card and it's always been accepted, including the australian address without any issue.

As for Etihad redemptions, i wonder if they will be allowed ex AU? The partner airline information doesn't list Australia as a destination:



Etihad AirwaysService within the Middle East and between the Middle East and North America, Europe, Africa and Asia.

Compared with other partners such as Hawaiian and Fiji Airways which both list Australia. Although worth noting that Qatar Airways isn't listed either for flights to Australia and they are clearly a oneworld and eligible. So maybe EY will be treated the same (although flights to Europe wouldn't qualify with a change of flight number as the rules currently stand).
 
Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

re credit cards - i have always ticketed via the phone and used my 28 degrees card and it's always been accepted, including the australian address without any issue.

As for Etihad redemptions, i wonder if they will be allowed ex AU? The partner airline information doesn't list Australia as a destination:





Compared with other partners such as Hawaiian and Fiji Airways which both list Australia. Although worth noting that Qatar Airways isn't listed either for flights to Australia and they are clearly a oneworld and eligible. So maybe EY will be treated the same (although flights to Europe wouldn't qualify with a change of flight number as the rules currently stand).

Elsewhere I've seen people book SYD-AUH-MLE and SYD-AUH-CAI no problems. They are both possible of course because CAI & MLE are in the same zone as AUH.
 
Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

Elsewhere I've seen people book SYD-AUH-MLE and SYD-AUH-CAI no problems. They are both possible of course because CAI & MLE are in the same zone as AUH.

well that's positive then!
 
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Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

I'd always thought there'd be at least one more. At least for Christmas.

Given that it's mid month and nothing, looks like it may not be forthcoming. But still thinking there will be one more.

AA will definitely be more expensive than US - no doubt (except in some niche cases). But I do look forward to funding up a nice oneworld redemption or Explorer award. AA is not horrid value in and of itself; availability is not as starkers across the alliance as one thinks. And, for the *A, there's always still AV LM.

Note also that AA only lets you purchase a certain number of miles per year, if my memory serves me right ;)
 
Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

Note also that AA only lets you purchase a certain number of miles per year, if my memory serves me right ;)

That is correct. Normally 40k per year IIRC, but often there is at least a promo every where which lifts this ceiling, usually to 60k.

This is why most intend to supplement with SPG sweeping. LTGs (or anyone) can consider racking up on AA directly, especially if you fly a lot of premium or flexible economy.
 
Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

That is correct. Normally 40k per year IIRC, but often there is at least a promo every where which lifts this ceiling, usually to 60k.

60K + bonus points during a promo for AA.
 
Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

60K + bonus points during a promo for AA.

IIRC when AA counts points for the purposes of fixing your ceiling, bonus points don't count (cf. AV LM where the ceiling includes bonus points).
 
Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

That is correct. Normally 40k per year IIRC, but often there is at least a promo every where which lifts this ceiling, usually to 60k.

This is why most intend to supplement with SPG sweeping. LTGs (or anyone) can consider racking up on AA directly, especially if you fly a lot of premium or flexible economy.

I guess this is where my 1:1 SPG AMEX and 1.5:1 AA AMEX will come in handy :D
 
Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

IIRC when AA counts points for the purposes of fixing your ceiling, bonus points don't count (cf. AV LM where the ceiling includes bonus points).

Correct. Hence 60K (limit) + bonus points. E.g. Jan promo was max 60K + 50% bonus.
 
Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

I guess this is where my 1:1 SPG AMEX and 1.5:1 AA AMEX will come in handy :D
Seriously considering whether it is worthwhile establishing USA credit in some way simply for credit cards :P
 
Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

Seriously considering whether it is worthwhile establishing USA credit in some way simply for credit cards :P

Unless you have a social security number it is extremely difficult.
 
Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

Thanks for all the information regarding AA bookings guys - I'm really looking forward to trying other airlines premium products. Interesting times ahead
 
Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

Unless you have a social security number it is extremely difficult.

I have a social security number from when I worked on a summer camp... but I have one... will that be enough to get a credit card? Man I'd take one of theirs any day (or twenty as they post them to you I hear haha)
 
I have a social security number from when I worked on a summer camp... but I have one... will that be enough to get a credit card? Man I'd take one of theirs any day (or twenty as they post them to you I hear haha)

Also think about currency conversion fees when you pay for everything in Australia with your US credit card. Not worth it, really
 
Also think about currency conversion fees when you pay for everything in Australia with your US credit card. Not worth it, really

Stuff that. Buying stuff in the USA from Australia using a USA credit card + mainly the sign on bonus points!
 
Just wanted to say thanks for all the help!

Managed to nab the old man a BKK-MEL J flight, and built the itinerary around that leg.

Funny story - I had given up on BKK-MEL as an option as there was no availability at all. Called to reserve LHR-PEK-PVG-SYD. Got told the PEK-PVG stop over time was too short, and they wouldn't let me reserve it at all - even though the AC flight is PEK-PVG-SYD! Same flight number!

Anyway, I politely hung up and searched the United tool again, not expecting much. Lo and behold a single J seat came up on the date he wanted from BKK-MEL and I nearly fell out of my chair. Called US Air back not ten minutes after hanging up from them. Got a different agent who locked in that leg and made it all possible.

All booked and paid for now. Phew!

Thanks again dudes, much obliged.
 

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