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[MadMick10]

What's the longest you've left a wine before trying it again after using winesave? I'm curious as my partner doesn't drink red wine and I'm often torn on opening a bottle if I know I won't be drinking the next night or two. A wine maker told me it's ok to freeze remaining wine to stop it spoiling, which seems to work fine, but if I'm not prepared and get the bottle out in the morning before work, it doesn't defrost in time to enjoy that night. Winesave sounds intersting

I've not heard of the freezing method before ... I would have thought that it would affect the taste of the wine adversely. Do you put the wine into another container or do you leave it in the glass bottle?

Wine preservation after opening is always an interesting topic. I used to use the wine pumps, which would supposedly extract most of the air in the bottle while applying an airtight seal, however from experience, it's not much better than just placing the cork back on the bottle, and not feasible for longer than 1 or 2 days. WineSave looks interesting, and other methods can be quite expensive - i.e. Eurocave's WineArt preservation system ($595!!).

Generally I now either finish the bottle on the same night as opening, or if I've decanted the bottle, I place the lid on the decanter (both my decanters have lids/stops). Has anyone experimented with different ways to try and preserve wine side by side to see which one is more effective?

 

[bmhchang]

Fox Creek Fox and Hounds Shiraz 2013 is back!

 

[blackcat20]

Fox Creek Fox and Hounds Shiraz 2013 is back!

Thats a shiraz cabernet. The original was a straight Shiraz.

 

[Violin]

Fox Creek Fox and Hounds Shiraz 2013 is back!

It's Shiraz-Cabernet not straight Shiraz by the look of it.

On wine preservation over a couple of days - I've tried a few pumps etc but generally find that putting the screwtop (I don't have many corks) back on and in the fridge overnight slows the oxidation and is usually fine for half a bottle. Less than half a bottle then just drink it! Taking out of the fridge a couple of hours before drinking lets it warm - but if desperate then put in a lukewarm sink for 10 minutes and have a white while you are waiting. For some of the younger wines, as noted earlier, this works pretty well and they can be much better the second day. Nothing reaches a third day.....

 

[bmhchang]

Thats a shiraz cabernet. The original was a straight Shiraz.

Sorry! Missed that.

 

[ehiggo]

I've not heard of the freezing method before ... I would have thought that it would affect the taste of the wine adversely. Do you put the wine into another container or do you leave it in the glass bottle?

Wine preservation after opening is always an interesting topic. I used to use the wine pumps, which would supposedly extract most of the air in the bottle while applying an airtight seal, however from experience, it's not much better than just placing the cork back on the bottle, and not feasible for longer than 1 or 2 days. WineSave looks interesting, and other methods can be quite expensive - i.e. Eurocave's WineArt preservation system ($595!!).

Generally I now either finish the bottle on the same night as opening, or if I've decanted the bottle, I place the lid on the decanter (both my decanters have lids/stops). Has anyone experimented with different ways to try and preserve wine side by side to see which one is more effective?

I usually leave the wine in the bottle and put it straight in the freezer. I've been told this trick from a wine maker and a wine rep. I thought they were both mad but it actually works. To be honest, I wouldn't try it on a really nice bottle (mostly as I usually open them when I know I'm going to finish it), but for a quaffer I've never noticed that it's had an adverse effect on the wine. Freezing is supposed to not change the molecular make up of the wine or something like that. I wouldn't try it on a cork bottle either. I sound a bit of a tight cough not wanting to waste wine, but when I want a glass or two without having to plan on my next few nights, it's an easy way to open a bottle whenever I want.

I'd be interested in try winesave though, the local wine merchant in Torquay stocks it, so I might just pop in over the weekend and pick their brains on it

 

[Malexthekid]

Any idea what the 93pt margaret river cab sav is?

 

[damoninja]

I've not heard of the freezing method before ... I would have thought that it would affect the taste of the wine adversely. Do you put the wine into another container or do you leave it in the glass bottle?

Wine preservation after opening is always an interesting topic. I used to use the wine pumps, which would supposedly extract most of the air in the bottle while applying an airtight seal, however from experience, it's not much better than just placing the cork back on the bottle, and not feasible for longer than 1 or 2 days. WineSave looks interesting, and other methods can be quite expensive - i.e. Eurocave's WineArt preservation system ($595!!).

Generally I now either finish the bottle on the same night as opening, or if I've decanted the bottle, I place the lid on the decanter (both my decanters have lids/stops). Has anyone experimented with different ways to try and preserve wine side by side to see which one is more effective?

They do it with beer/cider for a process called fractional freezing, there's no adverse affect provided you take necessary sanitation and handling methods so you don't contaminate or or oxygenate it.

I've done it with a mead, started with about 10% ended up around 25%.

 

[Rocket09]

Any idea what the 93pt margaret river cab sav is?

Maybe the Capel Vale Cellar Exclusive?

 

[Alzoam]

Maybe the Capel Vale Cellar Exclusive?

Anyone tried this and have an opinion?

 

[Dr Ralph]

Anyone tried this and have an opinion?

Yes, at the cellar door. As previous postings indicate, I'm no fan of Capel Vale. Hugely over rated.

 

[redbigot]

I've not heard of the freezing method before ... I would have thought that it would affect the taste of the wine adversely. Do you put the wine into another container or do you leave it in the glass bottle?

Wine preservation after opening is always an interesting topic. I used to use the wine pumps, which would supposedly extract most of the air in the bottle while applying an airtight seal, however from experience, it's not much better than just placing the cork back on the bottle, and not feasible for longer than 1 or 2 days. WineSave looks interesting, and other methods can be quite expensive - i.e. Eurocave's WineArt preservation system ($595!!).

Generally I now either finish the bottle on the same night as opening, or if I've decanted the bottle, I place the lid on the decanter (both my decanters have lids/stops). Has anyone experimented with different ways to try and preserve wine side by side to see which one is more effective?

Possibly only for serious winos, but I have a friend who uses a CO2 setup with food-grade CO2 canisters to "sparge" the bottles partially emptied and left over from tastings. I tried one recently, about half a bottle that was first opened nearly 3 weeks prior and it was in good condition.

In my experience hand air extraction pumps don't work, they don't remove enough air to prevent oxidation.

I have seen good results from the Argon-dispenser types.

If you know you are only likely to drink half of the 750ml bottle, keep a clean 375ml bottle handy and pour off half the 750ml first and re-seal, put it in the fridge if you want or it's very warm. A beer bottle will do at a pinch.

Some people claim that wines that don't suffer much when left open (or just re-capped) for 1-3 days are likely to cellar well. I have doubts about that as a general rule, but definitely some young reds will show severe oxidation within 24 hours, some will still be quite sound after 2-3 days under the same conditions.

 

[JessicaTam]

Fox and Hounds 2013 Shiraz from the Blackmarket deal arrived this morning. Will have a taste tonight and report back.

I have got a text saying mine has been delivered. I wonder how much will be left by the time I get to work to pick it up.

 

[JessicaTam]

A timely email from vintec with this device:

ISSUU - WineArt - Wine Serving & Preservation System by Vintec Australia

Yours for $620/$590

The Vintec Club : WineArt Wine Preservation System

Edit: I might split this discussion off into a separate thread when I get a chance

 

[ehiggo]

Most timely indeed!

I see the Glenlofty Shiraz is back for one more time. Time to get on peoples backs for one last push at some of those $50 credits!

 

[ehiggo]

So I've just had confirmation that any thank you credits remain $50 until you spend them

 

[coriander]

My F&H delivered to work this morning. Can't open it till I get home (don't want to spill it all over the car and there's always an RBT van on Millers Road on a Friday night and the fragrant nose of shiraz wafting out of the car window wouldn't go down well) so Mrs C said she'd open a Glen Lofty and let it breathe for our steak dinner later tonight. Sigh. Just have to have another bottle of red tomorrow night :shock:!

 

[Buzzard]

Thats a shiraz cabernet. The original was a straight Shiraz.

And a Shiraz Cab is on the way to my place.

 

[beefarmer]

My F&H delivered to work this morning. Can't open it till I get home (don't want to spill it all over the car and there's always an RBT van on Millers Road on a Friday night and the fragrant nose of shiraz wafting out of the car window wouldn't go down well) so Mrs C said she'd open a Glen Lofty and let it breathe for our steak dinner later tonight. Sigh. Just have to have another bottle of red tomorrow night :shock:!

I will be eagerly waiting for your assesments and comparisons on both.....

 

[AnonymousCoward]

Just opened a Sandalford Reserve Cab Sauv. Definitely a bold Cab Sauv with a bit of a gritty edge. Some more time resting will probably help. Something I would give an hour or two of decanting time before drinking at the moment.