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Anyone know what this 2016 SA shiraz might be? Single vineyard and 97 points / 5 stars @ Winestate didn't get me very far.

 
Anyone know what this 2016 SA shiraz might be? Single vineyard and 97 points / 5 stars @ Winestate didn't get me very far.

Two things....97 is a winestate score and not a JH score. I started my appreciation of wines in the late 80's using a Winestate score of 4/5 at least and then sought out their recommendations. This served me well apart from a shocking sparkling burgundy from WA that still haunts me today.

I have no idea what it is but they mention medium palate which is interesting hence i feel it is a complex one from the Adelaide Hills first guess, surely not from McLaren Vale.

It does sound tempting but that's what it's all about isn't it ! I look forward to an answer.
 
Bit of a bummer it is under cork
Nothing wrong with cork for a six pack drunk in the next five years. I went off on a tangent and didn't see the 2017for your one. On my phone it's easier to get confused. Reviews look good enough for this $60 to $30.
 
Nothing wrong with cork for a six pack drunk in the next five years. I went off on a tangent and didn't see the 2016 for your one. On my phone it's easier to get confused. Reviews look good enough for this $60 to $20.
Anyone know what this 2016 SA shiraz might be? Single vineyard and 97 points / 5 stars @ Winestate didn't get me very far.

The medium body on this one threw me when I thought you were mentioning it as the tanunda shiraz. The literal red herring skewed me. Time for bed.
 
Bit of a bummer it is under cork
I know what you mean Rug, I would hope that it would be Diam with a wine of this quality (and price), interested to hear back from anyone who orders it....
Nothing wrong with cork for a six pack drunk in the next five years. I went off on a tangent and didn't see the 2017for your one. On my phone it's easier to get confused. Reviews look good enough for this $60 to $30.
I thought it looked pretty intriguing BF but I've done my dash/cash for a little while on recent purchases so I'm reining in my impulses on this one.
 
Nothing wrong with cork for a six pack drunk in the next five years. I went off on a tangent and didn't see the 2017for your one. On my phone it's easier to get confused. Reviews look good enough for this $60 to $30.
If the cork is tainted, the effect on the wine can be immediate on bottling. In some cases musty/corky flavours are imparted into the wine within the first year or so. I've seen a barrel sample drawn the previous day and sealed with a cork show obvious TCA taint.
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I know what you mean Rug, I would hope that it would be Diam with a wine of this quality (and price), interested to hear back from anyone who orders it....

Unfortunately I don't think Ch Tanunda use Diam on any of their wines, just "natural" cork.
 
Anyone know what this 2016 SA shiraz might be? Single vineyard and 97 points / 5 stars @ Winestate didn't get me very far.


Winestate Search is pretty hopeless, the best match I could see was
JIM BRAND JIM'S VINEYARD COONAWARRA SHIRAZ 2016
Tasting: Shiraz Syrah & Blends - September/October 2019
Region: Coonawarra
Year: 2016
Price: $40.00
Review/Comments
Dark red wine has fruit cake-like aromas with chocolaty notes. Palate has a sweet and peppery raspberry fruit flavour profile; some maturity evident with firm ripe tannins.

But this also has 94 from Sam Kim and The Real Review, not mentioned.
 
Any ideas on this one? Could be Hoddles Creek?

qaz would be onto this one. At Boccaccios in Kew( who own Hoddle's Creek i believe) you can often buy their cleanskins and I believe they will often use their Chardonnay in the ten dollar bottle range. A few years ago I got into their cleanskin TopPaddock pinot and they were truly great for about three years, then fell off.
 
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Any ideas on this one? Could be Hoddles Creek?

Chardonnay 2019 – Black Market Deal #35458

you will never find Hoddles Creek on Vinomofo, though DCB has appeared

not being a big fan of Yarra Valley chardonnay, for value I prefer their Wickhams Road Gippsland at $15


qaz would be onto this one. At Boccaccios in Kew( who own Hoddle's Creek i believe) you can often buy their cleanskins and I believe they will often use their Chardonnay in the ten dollar bottle range. A few years ago I got into their cleanskin TopPaddock pinot and they were truly great for about three years, then fell off.

yes, I remember your fondness for Top Paddock, and you also came to mind when seeing Tomich I777 the other day :)

if spending less than $15, then I believe that beer is better, though of course there are always exceptions
 
Well, I've had my first semi-underwhelming VM experience. I ordered Pinot Noir 2016 – Black Market Deal #35222.

It's Spy Valley Pinot Noir. It was $15 per bottle from VM. They said discounted from $35 from the retailer which may be true. But, it seems to be widely available for around $27. There's still a decent discount there, but it's a little disappointing when simply googling the bottle would give you a lower price from many retailers.

Anyway, onto the wine. I should note that I'm not super well versed in vino parlance, but I do know what I like. The pinot isn't bad. But it's main characteristic is its spice, which isn't really my thing. The description on VM did mention that, so I can't complain that it's there in large quantities! But there is a lack of much "else" going on. Probably won't send it back - worth $15 a bottle, even for me. But not quite the excitement of the recent Barossa reds I've received. If you're into spice, you might really enjoy this wine, too.
 
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Well, I've had my first semi-underwhelming VM experience. I ordered Pinot Noir 2016 – Black Market Deal #35222.

It's Spy Valley Pinot Noir. It was $15 per bottle from VM. They said discounted from $35 from the retailer which may be true. But, it seems to be widely available for around $27. There's still a decent discount there, but it's a little disappointing when simply googling the bottle would give you a lower price from many retailers.

Anyway, onto the wine. I should note that I'm not super well versed in vino parlance, but I do know what I like. The pinot isn't bad. But it's main characteristic is its spice, which isn't really my thing. The description on VM did mention that, so I can't complain that it's there in large quantities! But there is a lack of much "else" going on. Probably won't send it back - worth $15 a bottle, even for me. But not quite the excitement of the recent Barossa reds I've received. If you're into spice, you might really enjoy this wine, too.
Bad luck. Don't be too proud. If you don't like it send it back. It's good to try that and see that it's rather easy. Then you'll only have good experiences with VM and everyone will be happy...
 

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