Virgin Australia applied for ADL/OOL-PER-DPS. Failed due International Terminal Requirement

[justinbrett]

Yes they are International. However, the CNS-MEL tag flight, I wonder if the revenue will fall under Jetstar Domestic or International.

Does it matter? It's the same company

I doubt these extra tag flights will be in addition to the current domestic flights. Watch them pull those back as these new ‘International’ tag flights take off, that people will only be using to fly Domestic.

No doubt. And yeah it will be just like QR988/989, except at least JQ will be transporting sustainable loads of pax for those carbon emissions.

 

[HS-TQE]

Which begs the question, are these A321 ‘D’ flights going to be operated by Thai or other crews? I think using Thai crews for say Cairns to Melbourne is abusing the laws. I would hazard a guess and say 5% or 0% will be using the flight for CNS-MEL-DPS puropses. CNS-MEL is purely a domestic flight here, and the executives know it. Nothing but a ploy to gain an extra MEL-DPS

I have to say the same with VA's application for xx-DPS-PER. They really only applied as a backdoor way to get onto PER-DPS, and unsuccessfully tried to get the rules changed when Australia's IASC (on behalf of Indonesian authorities) stated that the domestic legs are required to be operated from the international terminals.

On another note, Batik Air Indonesia might breath some sigh of relief at being the only 'Value Carrier' (and only airline overall) providing Recliner J and (third party) lounge access on the PER-DPS route.
Had VA stuck to the rules of the application, I would've tipped that VA would've likely taken some of Batik's J loads on the PER-DPS route (and forgo Batik's third party J lounge access) even when VA provides no J lounge access at all for their own short-haul international services.

 

[antycbr]

I have to say the same with VA's application for xx-DPS-PER. They really only applied as a backdoor way to get onto PER-DPS, and unsuccessfully tried to get the rules changed when Australia's IASC (on behalf of Indonesian authorities) stated that the domestic legs are required to be operated from the international terminals.

On another note, Batik Air Indonesia might breath some sigh of relief at being the only 'Value Carrier' (and only airline overall) providing Recliner J and (third party) lounge access on the PER-DPS route.
Had VA stuck to the rules of the application, I would've tipped that VA would've likely taken some of Batik's J loads on the PER-DPS route (and forgo Batik's third party J lounge access) even when VA provides no J lounge access at all for their own short-haul international services.

Indeed VA could have probably operated ADL-PER-DPS reasonably successfully from a terminal location perspective both are colocated with the international terminal. This would have saved checkin and ground arrangements.

 

[pauly7]

Which raises the question, do they have a bunch of work experience kids in HQ running this?

Well one just got expelled…

 

[bcworld]

Which raises the question, do they have a bunch of work experience kids in HQ running this?

Possibly the same work experience kid they just used to update the page on Singapore Airlines lounge access and completely butchered it.

 

[Digicola]

Possibly the same work experience kid they just used to update the page on Singapore Airlines lounge access and completely butchered it.

Well this compelled me to check. Two things to note:

-Beyond members get First class lounge access on SQ out of SIN.
-Apparently platinum members flying South African Airways have access to SQ lounges when flying SQ. Glad to see VA has enough money and patience to double check things before launching them live.

 

[ben95]

Beyond members get First class lounge access on SQ out of SIN.
-Apparently platinum members flying South African Airways have access to SQ lounges when flying SQ. Glad to see VA has enough money and patience to double check things before launching them live.

And apparently if you travel in Singapore airlines business class you’d still use the KrisFlyer Gold lounge.

 

[bcworld]

And apparently if you travel in Singapore airlines business class you’d still use the KrisFlyer Gold lounge.

...and...apparently Velocity Gold and Plat only get lounge access at Singapore...not other SQ operated lounges (not true...but that's what they've written).

 

[kittystar]

And apparently if you travel in Singapore airlines business class you’d still use the KrisFlyer Gold lounge.

Business Class would trump entry using your Gold or Platinum status

 

[bcworld]

Business Class would trump entry using your Gold or Platinum status

Everyone knows that except the person updating the lounge access info on the Velocity website.

Actually...it looks like they've updated it! And they nearly managed to do it correctly!

 

[serfty]

Possibly the same work experience kid they just used to update the page on Singapore Airlines lounge access and completely butchered it.

Well this compelled me to check. Two things to note:
-Beyond members get First class lounge access on SQ out of SIN.
-Apparently platinum members flying South African Airways have access to SQ lounges when flying SQ. Glad to see VA has enough money and patience to double check things before launching them live.

And apparently if you travel in Singapore airlines business class you’d still use the KrisFlyer Gold lounge.

...and...apparently Velocity Gold and Plat only get lounge access at Singapore...not other SQ operated lounges (not true...but that's what they've written).

Off Topic: I made a query and they appear to have fixed the SQ page.

Velocity Platinum and Gold​

+ 1 guest (inclusive of children)

If you are a Velocity Platinum or Gold member and you are travelling on a flight operated by Singapore Airlines, you will have access to SilverKris Lounges owned and operated by Singapore Airlines, except for flights departing Singapore where Velocity Platinum and Gold members can access the KrisFlyer Gold Lounge Note: No access to 3rd Party Lounges