"Virgin Australia gets its 100th Boeing 737"

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Re: VA Gets 100 737 Month After QF

Didn't they lease 737 classics to begin? Anyway, this whole argument is quite pointless and tiring. It shouldn't continue.
 
Re: VA Gets 100 737 Month After QF

Considering Qantas makes more than Virgin Australia (correct me if I'm wrong), and have had more money invested in them previously (maybe not so much considering VA is made up of a few foreign airlines now), where are they getting the money from to have caught up so fast?

You have to make it so spend it don't you? They're spending a lot!
 
Re: VA Gets 100 737 Month After QF

Going by airfleets.net, Qantas are up to their 120th 737 (out of 257 aircraft in total).

Then again, going by Airfleets, Virgin Australia only have 80 (with DJ having 75 many transfered to VA).

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Re: VA Gets 100 737 Month After QF

Good milestone by VA although they have mainly stuck with the single aircraft type.
 
Re: VA Gets 100 737 Month After QF

Didn't they lease 737 classics to begin? Anyway, this whole argument is quite pointless and tiring. It shouldn't continue.
AaronBradford,

If you don't like the topic you have the option of not reading it and certainly not posting in it. If you really want out it can be arranged that you don't even see the topic but that is your choice.

On the other hand if others want to read and post on the topic they are quite welcome to do so also.
 
Getting back onto a topic from earlier, has anybody here ever been one one of these "delivery flights"?

It really should be a "treat" that VA or QF offer to very high-status frequent flyers. I believe Cathay Pacific do this for some VIP Marco Polo (Diamond?) members on delivery flights, it's a "money can't buy" thing which is exactly what those top levels are supposed to be about.
 
Getting back onto a topic from earlier, has anybody here ever been one one of these "delivery flights"?

It really should be a "treat" that VA or QF offer to very high-status frequent flyers. I believe Cathay Pacific do this for some VIP Marco Polo (Diamond?) members on delivery flights, it's a "money can't buy" thing which is exactly what those top levels are supposed to be about.


The bigger picture here. With passengers on these flights who is going to cater and operate them? VAA don't have catering contractors in these ports, who can do cart uplifts on 737 aircraft or have trained contractors to do so ($$) Also VAA Cabin Crew cannot operate these distances or long hours so EBA dispensation would be required which would require union involvement ($) 737 aircraft are not used on these revenue routes, so ground contractors would be required at each port to deal with passengers, which again costs money. Also adds weight which reduces distance and adds fuel costs. Im sure the airline wishes to get the aircraft as quickly and cheaply to Australia. Not inflate a couple of high tiered already inflated FF'ers

"Money Could Not Buy" this type of service however It would Cost VA considerably to do so. 777 deliveries would be different as crews and contracts are in place to do so. But im sure if they were to do so they would try to make it a revenue flight to recoup some of the cost of positioning aircraft.

And im sure other airlines do not do this service for their high tiered FF on routes they do not operate on a revenue basis.

I laugh at these types of requests or suggestions.

When people start paying for a premium airline, and not wanting a premium airline and wanting to pay LCC fares. Maybe VA might go forward. But as most still want to pay JQ fares but want QF full service. Its a slow road to the top. VA is a business, a Business which makes little money considering its revenue. I think they have come leaps and bounds in 3 years, with much to go. However my share price has not.
 
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The bigger picture here. With passengers on these flights who is going to cater and operate them? VAA don't have catering contractors in these ports, who can do cart uplifts on 737 aircraft or have trained contractors to do so ($$) Also VAA Cabin Crew cannot operate these distances or long hours so EBA dispensation would be required which would require union involvement ($) 737 aircraft are not used on these revenue routes, so ground contractors would be required at each port to deal with passengers, which again costs money. Also adds weight which reduces distance and adds fuel costs. Im sure the airline wishes to get the aircraft as quickly and cheaply to Australia. Not inflate a couple of high tiered already inflated FF'ers

"Money Could Not Buy" this type of service however It would Cost VA considerably to do so. 777 deliveries would be different as crews and contracts are in place to do so. But im sure if they were to do so they would try to make it a revenue flight to recoup some of the cost of positioning aircraft.

And im sure other airlines do not do this service for their high tiered FF on routes they do not operate on a revenue basis.

I laugh at these types of requests or suggestions.

When people start paying for a premium airline, and not wanting a premium airline and wanting to pay LCC fares. Maybe VA might go forward. But as most still want to pay JQ fares but want QF full service. Its a slow road to the top. VA is a business, a Business which makes little money considering its revenue. I think they have come leaps and bounds in 3 years, with much to go. However my share price has not.

Guru1, they already offer some seats to Media etc on the ferry flights. It isn't unheard of at all. And why do you think VA cabin crew can't operate those hours? I'll give you a hint here, you are wrong they already do as a cabin crew will be on board. And like the long haul flights, they will work shifts. much like the pilots do.

It is also not unheard of to offer a couple of seats to top tier pax. they wouldn't fill a plane load, but only a handful. Catering will already be sorted as you wouldn't expect the pilots not to eat for the flights?
 
Hi Nlagalle,
Im not sure where you get your information from, but I have from a very good source. VA do not take cabin crew on these ferry flights from the USA to AUS. It Is pilots only. and they usually overnight on there way from USA. Cart uplifts of food do not happen on these flights. The pilots get prepacked lunch packs or bring there own food.


VAA (Virgin Australia Domestic) Crew are not allowed to be rostered more than 9.45 (-1 hour for sign on) anywhere. Nor are they able to fly anywhere north of the equator as per there EBA Agreement. Long haul (VAI) Cabin crew of course can, but are not endorsed on the 737. So cannot operate these flights.

If its happened in the past, maybe. But I have never heard of it happening on any 737 operated aircraft out of the USA.


Guru1, they already offer some seats to Media etc on the ferry flights. It isn't unheard of at all. And why do you think VA cabin crew can't operate those hours? I'll give you a hint here, you are wrong they already do as a cabin crew will be on board. And like the long haul flights, they will work shifts. much like the pilots do.

It is also not unheard of to offer a couple of seats to top tier pax. they wouldn't fill a plane load, but only a handful. Catering will already be sorted as you wouldn't expect the pilots not to eat for the flights?
 
Hi Nlagalle,
Im not sure where you get your information from, but I have from a very good source. VA do not take cabin crew on these ferry flights from the USA to AUS. It Is pilots only. and they usually overnight on there way from USA. Cart uplifts of food do not happen on these flights. The pilots get prepacked lunch packs or bring there own food.


VAA (Virgin Australia Domestic) Crew are not allowed to be rostered more than 9.45 (-1 hour for sign on) anywhere. Nor are they able to fly anywhere north of the equator as per there EBA Agreement. Long haul (VAI) Cabin crew of course can, but are not endorsed on the 737. So cannot operate these flights.

If its happened in the past, maybe. But I have never heard of it happening on any 737 operated aircraft out of the USA.

So what about flights to coughet? Last time I checked it was north of the Equator?
 
The flights are crewed by two pilots and an engineer. Catering is uplifted along the way. Virgin do have agreements with the caterers in Seattle, Hawaii and Fiji. Its usually the engineer that operates the oven and coffee maker as required.
 
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