Virgin Australia orders 8 Embraer E190-E2 jets for delivery from 2025

[jase05]

Reuters reporting that VARA have put an order in for 8 Embraer E190-E2 regional jets to replace the Fokkers

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/embraer-poised-win-e190-e2-jet-order-virgin-australia-sources-say-2024-08-12/

 

[pauly7]

Reuters reporting that VARA have put an order in for 8 Embraer E190-E2 regional jets to replace the Fokkers

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/embraer-poised-win-e190-e2-jet-order-virgin-australia-sources-say-2024-08-12/

Try try again

 

[Must...Fly!]

I guess it makes sense given the F100s are no longer around to compete against. But it does give you a little scary feeling of dejavu...

 

[BRIS_VA_HAWK]

I guess it makes sense given the F100s are no longer around to compete against. But it does give you a little scary feeling of dejavu...

So long as the leasing terms are reasonable, not a problem at all...

 

[Harrison_133]

Deliveries start in the second half of 2025.

Confirmation from Embraer:

Portal Embraer

embraer.com

 

[Must...Fly!]

So long as the leasing terms are reasonable, not a problem at all...

Oh I agree totally. I loved the e-jets. Bring back the MEL-KGI-PER rotation!

 

[A321]

Where have I seen this before

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[Blackswan]

So long as the leasing terms are reasonable, not a problem at all...

And engineering/LAME support. IIRC this was an issue for them last time?

 

[simmomelb]

It would be nice to see them return these on the MEL-MQL route, which they promised to do after Covid looking at the ACCC application, but with an agreement via Alliance (wet-lease) that never happened.
Either way, these are purely for VARA in WA by the looks for FIFO.
It is certainly a much-needed upgrade from the F100's.

 

[Saab34]

Did Virgin ever have a EJet Simulator here?

 

[ben95]

if someone could be a historian for just a sec, when and why did VA got rid of its ERJs? I think I read somewhere that they brought in Fokker for Skywest to replace the ERJ they sold so it definitely looks like a deja vu moment

 

[Carrots]

Surprising they haven't considered the Alliance model on 10yr old plus units.

 

[oz_mark]

if someone could be a historian for just a sec, when and why did VA got rid of its ERJs? I think I read somewhere that they brought in Fokker for Skywest to replace the ERJ they sold so it definitely looks like a deja vu moment

VA had a couple of problems with the previous E190s. One of those was the leasing terms, but in addition they seemed to have engineering/reliability issues that other airlines didn't have.

 

[Saab34]

Surprising they haven't considered the Alliance model on 10yr old plus units.

I recall some clients wanted newer aircraft did they not? To hit sustainability targets?

Perhaps they are happy to also pay an increase in bills that are associated with that.

I note the WA support in the press release also. I wonder if they are somewhat offering some form of $$ or assistance.

 

[AviatorInsight]

Did Virgin ever have a EJet Simulator here?

Yep in BNE. Plenty of slots for another one in the centre.

 

[simmomelb]

I recall some clients wanted newer aircraft did they not? To hit sustainability targets?

Perhaps they are happy to also pay an increase in bills that are associated with that.

I note the WA support in the press release also. I wonder if they are somewhat offering some form of $$ or assistance.

Relatively easy to find out under FOI re WA Gov funding.

 

[oz_mark]

I recall some clients wanted newer aircraft did they not? To hit sustainability targets?

Perhaps they are happy to also pay an increase in bills that are associated with that.

I note the WA support in the press release also. I wonder if they are somewhat offering some form of $$ or assistance.

Didn't read to me as anything specific to these aircraft, just a comment re how they support regional aviation generally (Capped fares and the like)

 

[Saab34]

Now the next question, will they install J!

 

[jase05]

Now the next question, will they install J!

Doubt it. They are only being used for FIFO contracts aren’t they?

 

[HS-TQE]

Would assume they are all-Economy and are very much based/living in WA. I'd assume they are the same RPT routes the F100s/A320s are doing now, so basically a return of the E190, this time the E2s, to ADL-PER.

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Now the next question, will they install J!

Nope, considering the mention of Virgin Australia Regional in the Embraer press release suggests they are all-Y layout. They may replace some A320 "hellships" RPT runs though.