What happens if you catch COVID whilst overseas?

[clifford]

make their own decisions what risk they are willing to take.

In relation to infecting their vulnerable relatives, I imagine.

 

[Lynda2475]

In relation to infecting their vulnerable relatives, I imagine.

Quite a leap of assumptions there and completely off topic.

Not everyone travels to visit relatives, vulnerable or otherwize. And vulnerable can refuse visits from anyone who causes them concern, wear masks etc.

If you get covid while travelling you need to comply with the rules of the place you are, that may require iso it may not. Once you hit day 8 since diagnosis provided you dont have symptoms Australia allows Australians to come home. At that point you are not contagious so no greater risk to the vulnerable than anyone else.

 

[AviatorPJ]

Yes. You're permitted to return home post 8 days from diagnosis if you provide the very detailed medical certificate required by Australian Authorities. Check also, if any additional tests or certificates are required by your Airline (s).

 

[MEL_Traveller]

And all of those things could be applied for influenza and the common cold. So we continue with this forever and ever?

That’s right. These small steps - getting vaccinated, staying at home if you’re sick, wearing masks - SHOULD be applied for the flu as well as covid. Why wouldn’t you?

 

[N860CR]

Yes. You're permitted to return home post 8 days from diagnosis if you provide the very detailed medical certificate required by Australian Authorities. Check also, if any additional tests or certificates are required by your Airline (s).

I wouldn’t say it’s overly detailed;

• the day the certificate is provided (must be within 30 days of the flight)
• a statement to the effect that the person has had the coronavirus known as COVID‑19 but is now recovered and is not considered to be infectious
• the day when there was first a positive result of an accepted COVID-19 test for the coronavirus known as COVID-19 for the person
• a statement to the effect that, on the day the certificate is provided:
  • it has been at least 7 days since there was a first positive result of an accepted COVID-19 test and
  • if the person had symptoms of COVID‑19 – the person has not had a fever, or respiratory symptoms of the COVID‑19, in the last 72 hours.

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That’s right. These small steps - getting vaccinated, staying at home if you’re sick, wearing masks - SHOULD be applied for the flu as well as covid. Why wouldn’t you?

I’d gone nearly 4 decades without wearing a mask while waking the dog, and I don’t intend to do it again.

 

[OATEK]

That’s right. These small steps - getting vaccinated, staying at home if you’re sick, wearing masks - SHOULD be applied for the flu as well as covid. Why wouldn’t you?

Covid has brought into stark relief our laissez-faire attitude to flu etc It was never common in the workplaces I attended that many people isolated with flu. They went to work until they couldn't physically manage it, and then stayed home, after infecting a bunch of workmates. So to answer your question - the reason Australians wouldn't isolate with the flu is because so few have in the past.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Covid has brought into stark relief our laissez-faire attitude to flu etc It was never common in the workplaces I attended that many people isolated with flu. They went to work until they couldn't physically manage it, and then stayed home, after infecting a bunch of workmates. So to answer your question - the reason Australians wouldn't isolate with the flu is because so few have in the past.

So covid has shown us that’s it’s relatively easy to take those steps. In Asia mask wearing is common, I suspect it will become more so in Western countries now.

 

[OATEK]

So covid has shown us that’s it’s relatively easy to take those steps. In Asia mask wearing is common, I suspect it will become more so in Western countries now.

You have gone from pessimistic to optimistic there - personally, I don't think it will change much once the pandemic has passed - just look at the UK where already all restrictions have been removed.

 

[straitman]

No those people died with covid, not all of them from Covid. Almost all had comorbodities.

The word is ‘comorbidities’ and that is an assumption as best I can see.
In any case it is irrelevant as Covid caused many of these people to die earlier than they would have done so otherwise.

 

[N860CR]

You have gone from pessimistic to optimistic there - personally, I don't think it will change much once the pandemic has passed - just look at the UK where already all restrictions have been removed.

Because it’s simply not sustainable long term. People don’t want to be wearing masks, scanning QR codes, sanitizing their hands etc etc. It may seem small, but it’s a big imposition and a big change to our freedom of life.

This pandemic has proven that Australians have a fairly poor grasp on the concept illness, life and death. Who knows if that is likely to change, but I suspect not.

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The word is ‘comorbidities’ and that is an assumption as best I can see.
In any case it is irrelevant as Covid caused many of these people to die earlier than they would have done so otherwise.

Correct. But with nearly 4 million “cases” to less than 6000 deaths, it’s not happening on a large scale.

 

[ketsuzei]

Why wouldn’t you?

One very valid reason would be because you can't afford to just stop working.

 

[Lynda2475]

The word is ‘comorbidities’ and that is an assumption as best I can see.

Typos happen no need to be condescending.

And it isnt an assumption, its based on published NSW data, almost all had more than one condition/ cause noted on their death certificates.

 

[Must...Fly!]

I wouldn’t say it’s overly detailed;

There actually doesn't seem to be any requirement to present a positive test? So if you were RAT positive (self test) then cleared of symptoms your GP could write you the letter I would think?

One very valid reason would be because you can't afford to just stop working.

Everyone has a cushy job, can sit at home and post on forums while getting paid sick leave, didn't you know...

 

[N860CR]

Typos happen no need to be condescending.

And it isnt an assumption, its based on published NSW data, almost all had more than one condition/ cause noted on their death certificates.

Over 30% having dementia and, assuming a high mortality rate in aged care, that would be a blessing for many.

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There actually doesn't seem to be any requirement to present a positive test? So if you were RAT positive (self test) then cleared of symptoms your GP could write you the letter I would think?


Everyone has a cushy job, can sit at home and post on forums while getting paid sick leave, didn't you know...

From what I can see, there isn’t. Get the doctors certificate and you’re good. If you’re chumming with your GP then it should be fine. If you’re using a random, they may take issue (the Telehealth doctors who advertise online specifically state “no RATs” as they need to verify the result.)

 

[Pushka]

So covid has shown us that’s it’s relatively easy to take those steps. In Asia mask wearing is common, I suspect it will become more so in Western countries now.

Hell no. So much for banning the use of single use plastics.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Anyone thinking mask wearing is going to be widespread hasn't visited countries where mandates have been repealed. In Norway I do not recall seeing a single mask that wasn't mine on public transport (I think a habit from Switzerland) or a handful of tourists at a museum.

 

[ChrisDPom]

And in Australia excess deaths went down over the last two years, so Covid has not lead to excess deaths in Australia.

Yes because you closed the borders - as you were able to do being an island country.

New Zealand was able to do the same.

Most countries didn't have that ability as their borders were too open to travellers.

You also locked down hard when needed to keep cases under control and have only eased off when vaccine levels were high.

And finally you were able to see other countries mistakes and the issues they faced as they dealt with the waves of different variants. Probably saved a lot of lives in Oz & NZ

 

[OATEK]

Over 30% having dementia and, assuming a high mortality rate in aged care, that would be a blessing for many.

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From what I can see, there isn’t. Get the doctors certificate and you’re good. If you’re chumming with your GP then it should be fine. If you’re using a random, they may take issue (the Telehealth doctors who advertise online specifically state “no RATs” as they need to verify the result.)

Having tested positive in the UK on a personal RAT test, I am struggling to get information about the recovery certificate process. I have asked the people I intend to use if they will accept my test, or whether they need a supervised test to establish I am infected. If anyone has been through the process, please let me know.

Also, the AU government says you can travel after 7 days if no symptoms, but here they want you to be 10 days after infection to issue the certificate,

 

[Scr77]

Having tested positive in the UK on a personal RAT test, I am struggling to get information about the recovery certificate process. I have asked the people I intend to use if they will accept my test, or whether they need a supervised test to establish I am infected. If anyone has been through the process, please let me know.

Also, the AU government says you can travel after 7 days if no symptoms, but here they want you to be 10 days after infection to issue the certificate,

If you’re no longer RAT positive, can’t you just do a supervised RAT on departure? You only need to deal with recover certification if you’re still testing positive.

 

[AviatorPJ]

Having tested positive in the UK on a personal RAT test, I am struggling to get information about the recovery certificate process. I have asked the people I intend to use if they will accept my test, or whether they need a supervised test to establish I am infected. If anyone has been through the process, please let me know.

Also, the AU government says you can travel after 7 days if no symptoms, but here they want you to be 10 days after infection to issue the certificate,

In Thailand, I recently tested positive on a self administered RAT. I then went to a local hospital and agreed with the Doctor for a PCR , which confirmed the RAT test. I considered that medical diagnosis could also substantiate any travel insurance claims. Especially, changes to my travel plans. In summary. I was diagnosed, treated and my recovery has been medically certified by the same Doctor.
However, my treating Doctor was initially reluctant to issue the "very detailed" exemption from pre departure COVID-19 testing certificate in English (a second language for him). It may be easier for you if the physician you consult was trained in and practices in English. Best wishes for a smooth process.