What's the status of status credits on the Qantas-Emirates deal??

[JohnPhelan]

OK. Understood. Well how about QF to DBX and the BA to LHR for the RTW leg. My wife and I would love to do another RTW J class and we have the points to do it

Yes, that will be fine. Both sectors are on oneworld airlines.

 

[medhead]

OK. Understood. Well how about QF to DBX and the BA to LHR for the RTW leg. My wife and I would love to do another RTW J class and we have the points to do it

Why not QF all the way the LHR via DXB?


Sent from the Throne

 

[Anna]

Nothing unusual in codes shares being on a limited range of the other carriers flights
Nothing unusual in codes shares being more expensive than a carriers flight code on its own metal.

It may well be "nothing unusual" to you but I predict a lot of unhappiness on this forum and elsewhere if it turns out that a J/F seat on EK metal will cost you more if you purchase the seat as a QF code share than if you purchase it as an EK flight number.

 

[simongr]

It may well be "nothing unusual" to you but I predict a lot of unhappiness on this forum and elsewhere if it turns out that a J/F seat on EK metal will cost you more if you purchase the seat as a QF code share than if you purchase it as an EK flight number.

Probably about as much unhappiness as paying QF prices for a QF code on BA in PE...

 

[Anna]

Probably about as much unhappiness as paying QF prices for a QF code on BA in PE...

If I pay BA prices for PE I still get SCs don't I? Possibly no SCs on EK paying the EK prices though, by the sound of it.

 

[RSD]

I guess part of the SC puzzle will be solved when QF which EK flights will also have a QF flight number - but we have no idea when that will be...

It will be interesting to see if Oz-DXB-JFK on EK gets a QF flight number.

The other big interest will be the price comparison between EK & QF fares on EK metal...

 

[Mwenenzi]

Nothing unusual in codes shares being on a limited range of the other carriers flights
Nothing unusual in codes shares being more expensive than a carriers flight code on its own metal.

It may well be "nothing unusual" to you but I predict a lot of unhappiness on this forum and elsewhere if it turns out that a J/F seat on EK metal will cost you more if you purchase the seat as a QF code share than if you purchase it as an EK flight number.

Probably about as much unhappiness as paying QF prices for a QF code on BA in PE...

Agree. Differential pricing on codes shares happens now

...I have some flights booked to LHR in PE, Purchased via BA but on QF code share....that QF have the best PE product and thus made sure that all BA legs were on QF Metal. Ideally I would have booked it all through QF but the difference in price was quite astounding. QF - $4,700 versus BA - $2900 although I did have 15% off BA as im a MLC customer......

 

[brucek]

QF-EK redemption misalignment

Status credits aside for one moment, one issue I can't find an answer to is: How will the two FF programs align when the redemption values are different?

e.g. QF MEL-SIN-MEL Economy = 60,000 QFF points
EK MEL-SIN-MEL Economy = 45,000 Skywards points

Does this mean I need only redeem 45,000 of my QFF points to fly this route on EK? Conversely will I need to redeem 60,000 of my Skywards points to fly this route with QF?

 

[oz_mark]

Re: QF-EK redemption misalignment

Status credits aside for one moment, one issue I can't find an answer to is: How will the two FF programs align when the redemption values are different?

e.g. QF MEL-SIN-MEL Economy = 60,000 QFF points
EK MEL-SIN-MEL Economy = 45,000 Skywards points

Does this mean I need only redeem 45,000 of my QFF points to fly this route on EK? Conversely will I need to redeem 60,000 of my Skywards points to fly this route with QF?

I would have thought that the two programs would keep there own redemption rates. Skyward points and QFF points don't have to have the same underlying value.

 

[brucek]

Re: QF-EK redemption misalignment

@oz_mark. Agree, and what also effects this is how and at what rate one earns points. e.g. at 0.5, 1, or 1.5 points per dollar spent, or miles flown, or from FF program partners, etc. I've not done analysis to compare the earn rate/mile flown of EK Vs QF. In my case I generate considerable points from my Citibank Emirates Platinum Master Card as it ties in well with the way we have our finances arranged. This will not be case for everyone.

I'd like an answer to the example I've posed below. In my own case and circumstances (and individual circumstances are key, which is a point often ignored when comparing FF programs and associated credit cards) I'd be shooting myself in the foot using 60,000 Skywards points to travel with QF to SIN when I can do it for only 45,000 with EK.

 

[scwappy]

Re: QF-EK redemption misalignment

I'd like an answer to the example I've posed below. In my own case and circumstances (and individual circumstances are key, which is a point often ignored when comparing FF programs and associated credit cards) I'd be shooting myself in the foot using 60,000 Skywards points to travel with QF to SIN when I can do it for only 45,000 with EK.

Not necessarily the way it will work. Will depend on what each scheme requires to redeem a partner ticket. It is quite conceivable that you may still only need 45k skywards miles but may be able to travel on either EK or QF metal. Or EK may make you use a different amount, of their choosing, to fly with QF.

 

[Mwenenzi]

Re: QF-EK redemption misalignment

Status credits aside for one moment, one issue I can't find an answer to is: How will the two FF programs align when the redemption values are different?
e.g. QF MEL-SIN-MEL Economy = 60,000 QFF points
EK MEL-SIN-MEL Economy = 45,000 Skywards points

Does this mean I need only redeem 45,000 of my QFF points to fly this route on EK? Conversely will I need to redeem 60,000 of my Skywards points to fly this route with QF?

No: the opposite
Expect you need 60,000 QF points to fly on QF or EK metal (QF or EK flight number)
Expect you need 45,000 EK points to fly on EK or QF metal (EK or QF flight number)

The countries currencies are not the same. Nor will the points be the same value

 

[brucek]

Re: QF-EK redemption misalignment

Tnx. An interesting perceptive. As I've mentioned previously, how one views this (i.e. the value) depends on how one earns the points in the first place.

"The countries currencies are not the same. Nor will the points be the same value." True, but many airlines FF programs require 60,000 MEL-SIN-MEL (e.g. QF, SQ, NZ), and there are currency value variances in these examples. EK requires only 45,000.

Has anyone seen anything in print of an official nature from either QF or EK about this matter?

 

[Nizar]

Re: QF-EK redemption misalignment

Guys does anyone know if there has been an official update (From QF/EK) as to whether QFFs will earn SCs on EK flight numbered flights (not codeshared) ?

Cheers

 

[oz_mark]

Re: QF-EK redemption misalignment

Guys does anyone know if there has been an official update (From QF/EK) as to whether QFFs will earn SCs on EK flight numbered flights (not codeshared) ?

Officially, if you are on the EK number, QFF will not earn Status Credits, only points.

 

[Brettmcg]

Re: QF-EK redemption misalignment

Guys does anyone know if there has been an official update (From QF/EK) as to whether QFFs will earn SCs on EK flight numbered flights (not codeshared) ?

Yes, this was announced quite a while ago. The answer is NO. If you want to earn SCs you must book on the QF coded flight.

 

[brucek]

Re: QF-EK redemption misalignment

There has been further information about this released recently by both QF and EK. It's important from a status and rewards points earning and spending (in the case of the latter) perspective to understand how the new rules work and the implications for your own situation.

One thing I'm unhappy about as a Citibank Emirates Platinum MC holder is EK has increased the number of Skywards points required to purchase a ticket, to the same as QFF. e.g. MEL-SIN-MEL with EK was 45,000 points and on QF 60,000 points. Now both require 60,000 to redeem the same ticket.

 

[Nizar]

Re: QF-EK redemption misalignment

Ok cheers thanks guys.

 

[ish]

Interesting problem.... I was booked BNE > SYD > DXB > GVA but then needed to change the final segment to be DXB > NCE (yes, le tour de france related! ).

Original booking had all segments on QF, but when I made the change, the DXB > NCE segment had no QF availability. Still got on the required flight, but only with EK code. Net result: miss out on 25 SCs (and need every single one to stand a chance of my platinum re-qualification!)

 

[Jleno]

Frequent Flyer - Earning Points - Fly - Emirates Partnership FAQs confirms you must be booked on a QF ticketed flight number.

Just booked a SIN-LHR flight. Emirates has it at SGD1,280 return. Great deal. Went on QF site to try to find the fare for the same SIN-LHR flight - SGD1,787.

Shame I'll have to forgo the status credits (and probably take a haircut on the QF miles) which will take me to silver but I'm willing to stay lowly bronze for SGD 500.

I'll probably take a haircut on QF miles as well. Anyone know how to find out the booking class code for EK once you've booked the flight?