When DYKWIA becomes the full <airline> tanty

[Quickstatus]

I was on a BA flight SIN - LHR last year walking up the aerobridge to J with my partner and two kids in tow when this prat comes storming up behind yelling "first class..first class.." and waving his boarding pass in the air. He proceeds to push past my then 6 y.o son and then tries to push past me, who by this time had swung around to see if my son was OK (he was), as I was standing at the edge of the cabin door. I blocked his move and said ".. the only thing first class about you is you're a first class dick, so just wait your turn..." He mumbled something under his breath while I motioned for my youngest to walk past him to the front of the line where I was, gave him the 4 boarding passes to give to the FA (ensuring the process was as drawn as I could make it) and making this moron's blood boil even more. The FA cottoned on, smiled at me, and proceeded to have a nice chat in the doorway with my son making the DYKWIA wait even longer to board. As he walked past us in the stairwell my partner said in a not so subtle voice "Enjoy your flight Mr First Class" which most of the J pax heading upstairs heard and the DYKWIA went crimson red with embarrassment.

Not a lot of difference to those who have priority boarding issues. Same scale just different points along it.

 

[drron]

On our recent P&O International cruise a DYKWIA pommy person (lady?) actually asked one of our friends 'how do you working class people afford a cruise?'
I missed her answer as I was laughing so much.

When I went to my first US medical conference mrsdrron went to the wives program-yes it was called that in those days-she was asked what I earned and she told them.As one they all said-"and you can live on that?"

 

[coco50]

On our recent P&O International cruise a DYKWIA pommy person (lady?) actually asked one of our friends 'how do you working class people afford a cruise?'
I missed her answer as I was laughing so much.

I have had this on AFF where a member questions my right to travel in first class when I am an age pensioner. There are many ways an age pensioner can travel first class, such as family transfers of points, children paying for parents to fly first class. In this case, I used points that I had accumulated while working. I get sick of the DYKTYHNRTTFC (don't you know that you have no right to travel first class) . It is amazing what you can do and it is not above your station in life!!!

 

[andye]

When I went to my first US medical conference mrsdrron went to the wives program-yes it was called that in those days-she was asked what I earned and she told them.As one they all said-"and you can live on that?"

Bet you are paying less than they are in indemnity

 

[Fiches Mouser]

I have had this on AFF where a member questions my right to travel in first class when I am an age pensioner. There are many ways an age pensioner can travel first class, such as family transfers of points, children paying for parents to fly first class. In this case, I used points that I had accumulated while working. I get sick of the DYKTYHNRTTFC (don't you know that you have no right to travel first class) . It is amazing what you can do and it is not above your station in life!!!

I could never judge a fellow F pax for their right to travel. I get looked at like an unaccompanied minor!

 

[anat0l]

I have had this on AFF where a member questions my right to travel in first class when I am an age pensioner. There are many ways an age pensioner can travel first class, such as family transfers of points, children paying for parents to fly first class. In this case, I used points that I had accumulated while working. I get sick of the DYKTYHNRTTFC (don't you know that you have no right to travel first class) . It is amazing what you can do and it is not above your station in life!!!

I could never judge a fellow F pax for their right to travel. I get looked at like an unaccompanied minor!

I was going to say that there is a difference between you can't afford to travel first class versus you have no right to travel first class. The former is baffling; the latter is bizarre bordering on obnoxious.

I wonder why anyone would be questioning how a golden oldie is in first class. Nothing wrong with using your retirement funds to travel like that; or if you are still working, good on you!

People tend to pass judgement quicker on those who appear too young to travel in first class, a la alluded by mrsmart; the classic encounter is when said young person stands in the F line for check-in and gets an attempted dressing down by someone thinking they're being a disobedient whipper-snapper in the wrong line. (It gets hairier when it is a case of status, not class of travel). Even little kids who take up F seats really confuse some people, irrespective of whether mummy and daddy look like / are Mrs and Mr Moneybags.

Perceptions may be changing slightly now as people open up to the fact that Business travel (and hitherto First) is not exactly the exclusive domain of CEOs, oil barons, politicians (corrupt or otherwise), royals and the other super rich.

 

[andye]

Not airline but very amusing "How VIP do we gotta get?"

'How VIP do we gotta get?': Sir Paul McCartney turned away from Grammys after-party - Telegraph

I was at the W Hotel last night and there was a party going on-hadn't twigged it was Grammy's related. Bouncer was happy for me to go in just saying I was a resident without checking though. Obviously KWIW

 

[Geoffm]

Mrs geoffm hates the status thing, priority boarding etc. We were flying OOL -SYD boarding call in lounge, Mrs decides it is then time to go and rearrange hair etc for trip. She finally emerges and I drag her to the boarding gate to see big lines waiting to board. Grab her by the hand and push way through crowd muttering priority boarding get in the correct line!(it was OOL remember) Right up to the head of priority lane to discover boarding has stalled and that it was other priority pax I had pushed through. The shame i felt for the DYKWIA moment lingered a lot longer than the 60 mins to Sydney.

 

[Quickstatus]

Mrs geoffm hates the status thing, priority boarding etc. We were flying OOL -SYD boarding call in lounge, Mrs decides it is then time to go and rearrange hair etc for trip. She finally emerges and I drag her to the boarding gate to see big lines waiting to board. Grab her by the hand and push way through crowd muttering priority boarding get in the correct line!(it was OOL remember) Right up to the head of priority lane to discover boarding has stalled and that it was other priority pax I had pushed through. The shame i felt for the DYKWIA moment lingered a lot longer than the 60 mins to Sydney.

Refer to post #221.
I would not be surprised that the DYKWIA behavious is innate and stored in some genetic sequence yet to be discovered. I suspect though that for some its overtaken their personality, others havemanaged to repress it completely while some have an accidental release.

 

[coco50]

I could never judge a fellow F pax for their right to travel. I get looked at like an unaccompanied minor!

Half your luck! This could reap dividends for you in later life.

 

[Fiches Mouser]

Half your luck! This could reap dividends for you in later life.

That's what I'm counting on!

 

[medhead]

Mrs geoffm hates the status thing, priority boarding etc. We were flying OOL -SYD boarding call in lounge, Mrs decides it is then time to go and rearrange hair etc for trip. She finally emerges and I drag her to the boarding gate to see big lines waiting to board. Grab her by the hand and push way through crowd muttering priority boarding get in the correct line!(it was OOL remember) Right up to the head of priority lane to discover boarding has stalled and that it was other priority pax I had pushed through. The shame i felt for the DYKWIA moment lingered a lot longer than the 60 mins to Sydney.

That's why Qantas need to get this cough together on priority boarding. Had a very similar experience with the entire aircraft lined up in the premium lane to board, the normal lane is totally empty. I know the entire plane doesn't have gold or higher status, so there is no way I should have to go to the end of the line. Qantas offer a service they need to provide it or kill it. The current confusion created by their inability to sort it out, causes problems for everyone. Gold/Platinum/business having to scrum up, non-status people just lining up and ignoring signs. It also leads to pretty disgusting character assessments by certain people.

 

[Milefest]

Been on flights where a huge amount of the pax are in the priority queue. Never sure whether they are priority pax or not because they never enforce it. I get the feeling though that many people are also totally oblivious. It happens less on VA but they rarely enforce it there either.

Probably going slightly off topic but I have another issue with oversize bags taking up half of the space in the overhead bins..

 

[UP4014]

Been on flights where a huge amount of the pax are in the priority queue. Never sure whether they are priority pax or not because they never enforce it. I get the feeling though that many people are also totally oblivious. It happens less on VA but they rarely enforce it there either.

Probably going slightly off topic but I have another issue with oversize bags taking up half of the space in the overhead bins..

It would simply be miles better for everyone to simply have two queues.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

A friend told me about a recent event where a pax who had checked in (no bags) was offloaded from a BNE/CBR flight when they were a noshow at the gate.

Pax eventually arrives but alas too late by then. Apparently there were protestations to the tune of "I must be on that flight I have a meeting with the Prime Minister."

Possibly wouldn't have been a bad idea to fly the night before if that was indeed the case.

 

[Quickstatus]

That's why Qantas need to get this cough together on priority boarding. Had a very similar experience with the entire aircraft lined up in the premium lane to board, the normal lane is totally empty. I know the entire plane doesn't have gold or higher status, so there is no way I should have to go to the end of the line. Qantas offer a service they need to provide it or kill it. The current confusion created by their inability to sort it out, causes problems for everyone. Gold/Platinum/business having to scrum up, non-status people just lining up and ignoring signs. It also leads to pretty disgusting character assessments by certain people.

I would have gone into the empty normal lane and flashed my plat card at the front of queue.

Or the shortest queue.

When I did that last year several from the longer queue changed lanes as well

I actually could not be bothered with PB anymore, I now just make sure I'm among the first to board if I have HL

 

[turnip666]

There is no rule against using the normal queue. No need to flash a WP card. You could flash your NB card and be waved ahead of everyone in the "Priority" lane the way things work

 

[Archphoto]

I would have gone into the empty normal lane and flashed my plat card at the front of queue.

Or the shortest queue.

When I did that last year several from the longer queue changed lanes as well

I actually could not be bothered with PB anymore, I now just make sure I'm among the first to board if I have HL

Have done that a few times when I was WP - the looks on the faces of everyone lined up in the "Priority Lane" was priceless; a true MasterCard moment.

 

[Denali]

Been on flights where a huge amount of the pax are in the priority queue. Never sure whether they are priority pax or not....

Last year we were waiting for a flight and the FFs had formed a queue but didn't want to stand in line so they had bags and backpacks and boxes and jackets all lined up and Im pretty sure 100% of them were in Y.

 

[medhead]

I would have gone into the empty normal lane and flashed my plat card at the front of queue.

Or the shortest queue.

When I did that last year several from the longer queue changed lanes as well

I actually could not be bothered with PB anymore, I now just make sure I'm among the first to board if I have HL

I half did that, with the impediment that there were genuine PB pax in the line. I was stopped by the thought of pushing in front of those real PB pax (one of my regular flights so I recognised faces), also that the normal line should be processed after the PB line so I would be at the end anyway. Plus the family were in tow so SWMBO was saying words about the location of the end of the line.
In the end I was standing in a confused state half way to the normal line when the gate agent came over and started processing the PB line. The confusion was resolved by the gate agent ignoring the concept of a PB line and calling me over (even though I was allowed PB but they weren't to know that). Now my head hurts from thinking of all the contradictions.

There is no rule against using the normal queue. No need to flash a WP card. You could flash your NB card and be waved ahead of everyone in the "Priority" lane the way things work

And that's why Qantas is a PB fail. I see all the status pax lined up in PB and then invariably other status pax decide to push in using the normal line. Qantas really need to get this under control and process the premium line as a premium, even with 2 FAs doing the scanning. This is definitely not a whinge about other pax taking advantage, they only do so because Qantas let them.
BTW I'm taking about a different situation to the experience with the family. In the family case, the line in the PB was the vast majority of pax. If you know adelaide, the queue extended the entire length of the gate lounge. No way it was the 20 or so Gold+ that are normally on that flight.