Who has achieved WP only flying in -Y?

[defurax]

I did it this year: 1560 SCs, 66 flights, 247,939 km, 90SCs from DSC offers. A few domestic flights in Flexi Saver.

 

[Solid]

WP on domestic only work travel in Y for both QF and DJ. DJ enough for partner platinum.

 

[Kangol]

I made AA EXP through all economy travel. But if crediting that same travel to QF, I would have only just earned enough SCs to retain Gold status (which I have anyway through lifetime Gold), so not nearly as much economy travel as someone who achieves Qantas Platinum through Y-only.

Just wondering, what were your flying patterns when achieving EXP? Short hop dom? Long haul int? Deep discount Y or full Y?
Interesting how AA has 3 ways of qualifying and that flying in premium cabins doesn't have much advantage in earning status faster than flying in full fare Y..

 

[NM]

Just wondering, what were your flying patterns when achieving EXP? Short hop dom? Long haul int? Deep discount Y or full Y?
Interesting how AA has 3 ways of qualifying and that flying in premium cabins doesn't have much advantage in earning status faster than flying in full fare Y..

Most of that was medium-haul international (Australia to Asia), mostly B fares (so discount economy from QF perspective, 1.5EQP/mile for AAdvantage) on a combination of QF, CX and JL.

 

[Jack_OC]

I have to say I disagree with you on this. I get to set policy in my business. That policy is based upon practicality and what is right for the business. In February I am flying Y to the UK....about three weeks after my accounts administrator, and business development manager are flying Y+. the journey will have no impact on my performance. Sure I'd like to be flying J or F, and will be doing so on several future flights (6-7 per year to LHR) I really do prefer the comfort, and use points to ensure this usually, but in reality I'll fly Y when it suits my business and it won't effect my performance. (For reference I'll be attending a board meeting and an International Standard's Committee Meeting, with 6 days between landing and departing.)

To be fair, I did say it might depend what you’re expected to do while away, and it doesn’t sound like your trip is anywhere near as demanding as the one I described. Also, not meaning to be pedantic, but I was commenting on a reference to a 40 hour journey in Y, which is close to twice as long as it takes to get to LHR.

Anyway, a key question is, are you expected to go straight to work as soon as you land? If so, it’s pretty remarkable if travelling Y won’t affect your performance, and I would suggest that's not true of most people. On the other hand, if you are going a day or two earlier so you can recuperate before you need to work, and/or if you need time to recuperate when you return to Oz, then I would question if that is necessarily the most efficient/cost effective option (bearing in mind each day of your time probably costs $xk). Anyway, I accept it depends to some extent on the specific circumstances, but I stand by my comment that I simply couldn't/wouldn't do the kind of travel I have to do in Y (and just for clarity, I have travelled extensively in Y on my own dollar, and continue to do so when I can't get upgrades, so I know what travelling Y is like, and I'm not just being snobby).

(I even had a routing suggested on a non-OW carrier that would have taken 18+ hours from BKK-NRT (via Seoul) because it would save $100!)

That’s a clear case of someone who doesn’t understand the difference between “cheap” and “cost effective”. There is no possible way that was a more cost effective option for the business, so whoever suggested it needs to be fired! I have come up against people like that too, but if there is no-one more senior in the business who is willing/able to overrule in that situation, then I'd be looking for a new job!

 

[amaroo]

I have to say I disagree with you on this. I get to set policy in my business. That policy is based upon practicality and what is right for the business. In February I am flying Y to the UK....about three weeks after my accounts administrator, and business development manager are flying Y+. the journey will have no impact on my performance. Sure I'd like to be flying J or F, and will be doing so on several future flights (6-7 per year to LHR) I really do prefer the comfort, and use points to ensure this usually, but in reality I'll fly Y when it suits my business and it won't effect my performance. (For reference I'll be attending a board meeting and an International Standard's Committee Meeting, with 6 days between landing and departing.) FWIW the accounts administrator and business development manager don't travel regularly so I consider it more important to look after them than myself - I do fly a little bit more.

Nice testing of P1 benefits ..........FWIW I hope it does work & you find yourself back in F

 

[rotor]

Anyway, a key question is, are you expected to go straight to work as soon as you land?

It is "expected", until I refuse.

That’s a clear case of someone who doesn’t understand the difference between “cheap” and “cost effective”. There is no possible way that was a more cost effective option for the business, so whoever suggested it needs to be fired! I have come up against people like that too, but if there is no-one more senior in the business who is willing/able to overrule in that situation, then I'd be looking for a new job!

You might be surprised how few understand the difference. I've experienced the same as Archphoto - quoted 50 hours round trip including overnight at a stopover to save a few dollars, for what should have been a direct flight. It's all about the appearance of saving money, which obviously always works out to be the most expensive way of doing business.

 

[Sailinginoz]

I made WP flying -Y international this past year, and a couple of domestic -Y for fun.

But, I have to admit that I upgraded myself in HKG four times to PE by paying $. However, I didn't receive extra SCs for it.

I was also quite bummed that I didn't receive the DSC offer for HK that some got. Hopefully, I'll get it this year and maybe make WP1.

As WP, I'm fascinated by the grown-up's lounge in Sydney .. and I like that I sometimes get a cheese/sweet snack brought from business in the middle of the night ....

Happy Holidays everyone!

 

[markis10]

But, I have to admit that I upgraded myself in HKG four times to PE by paying $. However, I didn't receive extra SCs for it.

Sadly thats the norm for QF cash ODUs!

 

[sjd]

I made WP this year in 7 months flying without leaving QLD, let alone INTL and all in Y. Flew weekly from Feb to Nov either BNE to CNS or BNE to BCI/LRE and did not receive a DSC offer. Started out PS and it felt like ages to get to SG and QP access. The sweetener was the return trip from BCI to BNE, which stops in LRE and counts as a whole leg. As it is QLink there are rarely any Red-E, so 20 SC for a 20 minute trip. Surely the best SC per minute of flying anywhere. That said I'd say 60% of fares were Red-E. Upgrade myself once and no status runs. Got to 2050 SC for the year. Will be doing slightly less next year (I think) with with a JASA return trip to SIN using the advice found in the forums, that should help the SC count for 2013. Hope to retain WP for another year.

 

[rotor]

As the OP, I've answered my own question, at least in my circumstances.

WP pack arrived today

>50 discount QF flights out of 60+ for the year, mostly international.

It took doing a SYD-BNE-TSV JASA though to get me over the line...

Going to be a nice feeling walking into the First Class lounges

 

[legroom]

WP pack arrived today

Going to be a nice feeling walking into the First Class lounges

You deserved it !

 

[blewie]

Have been a WP for the last 3 years, always travelling Discount economy due to work budget cuts. It is a hard slog and you really need to do a lot of travelling, We are off overseas every second week and usually domestic travel every other week. Last year, with the help of Double SC attained 2700 SC's. Understand your feelings though, my usual question to check in staff after an upgrade refusal is, 'how loyal can I be, 74 flights last year in discount economy to attain Platinum status, surely that is loyalty?' But them's the break's!

 

[cgoh]

Congrats! Great achievement.

So where do you normally fly to? 60 int flights a year in Y seems a bit harsh (or is it 30 return?). I used to travel MEL-BNE and MEL-PER weekly in Y and i hated it. Luckily start of last year my trips are now solely to HK (I do it once a month) and in the comfort of CX J. Can't complain I suppose.

As the OP, I've answered my own question, at least in my circumstances.

WP pack arrived today

>50 discount QF flights out of 60+ for the year, mostly international.

It took doing a SYD-BNE-TSV JASA though to get me over the line...

Going to be a nice feeling walking into the First Class lounges

 

[rotor]

Congrats! Great achievement.

So where do you normally fly to? 60 int flights a year in Y seems a bit harsh (or is it 30 return?). I used to travel MEL-BNE and MEL-PER weekly in Y and i hated it. Luckily start of last year my trips are now solely to HK (I do it once a month) and in the comfort of CX J. Can't complain I suppose.

60+ flights total, including multiple segments (but not stopovers), so less than 30 return flights - that would be insane.

Have been a WP for the last 3 years, always travelling Discount economy due to work budget cuts. It is a hard slog and you really need to do a lot of travelling, We are off overseas every second week and usually domestic travel every other week. Last year, with the help of Double SC attained 2700 SC's. Understand your feelings though, my usual question to check in staff after an upgrade refusal is, 'how loyal can I be, 74 flights last year in discount economy to attain Platinum status, surely that is loyalty?' But them's the break's!

I sympathise - I've had the same experience, and the same conversation with QF staff. I've often argued that a frequent Y flyer is worth more than an infrequent J flyer, but of course in $ terms that isn't the case.

I'll never forget that TSV JASA - what an experience running from flight to flight all day to end up where you started, interspersed with lounge visits to top up on Heineken, great wine and JD....

 

[chorse]

Done it 2 years running with 100% overseas travel. Was able to book exit rows when they were available but wasn't able to go Premium Economy until just recently.

WP via economy should be considered cruel and unusual punishment, especially when they come past to personally thank you and offer you a newspaper that is far too big to even unfold in a Y seat.

 

[kempvet]

Most of that was medium-haul international (Australia to Asia), mostly B fares (so discount economy from QF perspective, 1.5EQP/mile for AAdvantage) on a combination of QF, CX and JL.

Interesting to note that there are AY coded economy fares from Europe to Australia with the booking class R which gets 1.5 points per mile, means that sometimes one flight has nearly earned me one third of the points needed to maintain EXP. Some of these flights I have booked for only $1350 dollars

 

[NM]

Interesting to note that there are AY coded economy fares from Europe to Australia with the booking class R which gets 1.5 points per mile, means that sometimes one flight has nearly earned me one third of the points needed to maintain EXP. Some of these flights I have booked for only $1350 dollars

And most economy AY booking classes earn 100% EQM ... as I am expecting to use for an upcoming trip. Doubt it will be booked in R, more likely V or M.

 

[JessicaTam]

I believe there is an AFF member who made WP on QantasLink.

 

[Red Roo]

As the OP, I've answered my own question, at least in my circumstances.

WP pack arrived today

>50 discount QF flights out of 60+ for the year, mostly international.

It took doing a SYD-BNE-TSV JASA though to get me over the line...

Going to be a nice feeling walking into the First Class lounges

Congrats rotor! Looking forward to hearing about your first First Lounge experience as a Platinum member.